muggs Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 With your team's late season collaspe, Millen should be able to draft another wideout with size AND speed. No defense will be able to contain them now!!!!:cool::rolleyes::D Anyone of you guys still think Joe Thomas, Brady Quinn, or Adrian Peterson wasn't the right pick? I mean, I know ya have Tatum Bell and Drew Stanton but................................................... I hate to say I told ya so.......but, I told ya so. -----> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig mack Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 If you think Adrian Peterson would be a good pick for the lions, your crazy. The Vikings have the best O-line in the league and the lions have the worst. He would have a very short career playing here. I like Calvin Johnson, I dont think that was the wrong pick, he just got picked by a terible team. If they would have picked Thomas at that spot I wouldnt be mad either. The O-Line needs some serious help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted December 28, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 If you think Adrian Peterson would be a good pick for the lions, your crazy. The Vikings have the best O-line in the league and the lions have the worst. He would have a very short career playing here. I like Calvin Johnson, I dont think that was the wrong pick, he just got picked by a terible team. If they would have picked Thomas at that spot I wouldnt be mad either. The O-Line needs some serious help. I really don't think Peterson was a bad pick for anybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig mack Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 If the Lions would have picked him, it would have been bad for him. He would be in a wheelchair in no time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted December 28, 2007 Report Share Posted December 28, 2007 Oh, come on Muggsy....you can do better than that. Picking on the Lions? They are terrible every single year....doesn't picking on the Lions get old after a couple or few seasons? I mean...afterall, they did sweep the bears and beat the Chiefs and Broncos...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMn106 Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 You did forget to mention that the Lions did have the hardest schedule for the last half of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdvantageTimberLou Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 Muggs my friend, picking on the Lion is like beating a dead horse. Each year you know what to expect from our season to what we pick in the draft. I think they flip a quarter prior to their pick.....heads we take a quarterback, tails we take a wide reciever!! They started out good but tanked when they need to play their best, this might be the final straw and Millen will get his walking papers! I can see that happening! Been rebuilding since, what? 1957? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Finn Posted December 31, 2007 Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 Matt Millen Just heard the Lions have had 7 losing seasons with Millen running things. What gives? Who's he got raunchy pictures of? As a Packer fan, I kinda hope you guys keep ol Matt around for a few more years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted December 31, 2007 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2007 I think he'll be gone after this season. They're closer than a lot of people probably think. I didn't like hiring Martz as the OC though. I got that they were trying to bring him in since he had that great Rams offense in a dome...but you can't get away from your indentity and you need to run the ball to win...I'm still not sure why Martz gets so much credit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMn106 Posted January 1, 2008 Report Share Posted January 1, 2008 I'm still not sure why Martz gets so much credit. Because he had a Hall of Fame running back in St Louis when he was there. Its ok you can admit he is an Offensive genius. The offense in St Louis was unstoppable, he just has to have the talent. The Lions have the Receivers but their running backs are mediocre and injury prone. They need a good back and O-Line help. Bottom line, You are only as good as your talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texastrophies Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 you need to run the ball to win... 16 - 0 so far without a running game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdoc Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 very poor ownership!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted January 2, 2008 Report Share Posted January 2, 2008 16 - 0 so far without a running game Remembered reading this the other day: Patriots 10th ranked rushing offense When your passing offense is as good as theirs, you can't help but be able to run the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted January 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 16 - 0 so far without a running game Yeah, you got me...you need to run the ball to win...unless you have Tom Brady and Randy Moss. But players like those two don't just come together everyday...it's usually a once a decade type thing ey? If you can't look at that Pats team, and realize they're not the exception to any rule...I can't help ya. Beside...they ran the heck out of Maroney in that blizzard a few weeks back...and the Pats CAN run the ball if and when they choose to. They don't have that Oline or some solid RB's they wouldn't be the same team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdvantageTimberLou Posted January 3, 2008 Report Share Posted January 3, 2008 very poor ownership!!!! I agree with that, old man Ford sees too much in Millen and he has proved nothing while running the show!! Change management! BTW: The family car business isn't doing too hot either!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 16 - 0 so far without a running game Yeah, but the Pats have an offensive line. When you dont have any blocking, your not going to run OR pass. Reason being that Kitna was sacked most in the NFL this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michiganbowhunter_SQ2 Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Yeah, but the Pats have an offensive line. When you dont have any blocking, your not going to run OR pass. Reason being that Kitna was sacked most in the NFL this season. I have to disagree with that last sentence. I think the reason he was sacked so much is becasue he doesn't know how to get rid of the ball. Of course the line is going to get most of them blame, but there were TONS of time they gave him PLENTY of time to throw, but he'd sit in the pocket and wait....and wait..and wait....and instead of stepping up in the pocket, like most smart QBs would do...he'd try to run out and around the pressure. Not saying the line was GREAT at pass protection, but kitna caused a lot of the sacks himself. I do think the run blocking needs to get better though. Of course, they had 7 wins this year, so they had to fire Mike Martz:confused: can't have that now, not when you are used to 3-4 wins a year and a top 5 draft pick I'm done being a Loins fan until they fire millen...Without Martz they wouldn't have won 7 games....their linebackers were mediocre(sp?) and the secondary is HORRIBLE, but yet they offensive coordinator gets canned?? the offense kept em in some of the games they lost...millen is an IDIOT, and ford needs to sell the team because he is a MORON for keeping millen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 If you dont agree SQ2...whats your answer for the last 3 or 4 Lions QB's that have been sacked so many times? I'm not trying to be nasty, but whens the last time the Lions havn't had the most allowed or nearly the most allowed sacks in the NFL? You cant tell me they all don't know how to step up in the pocket or scramble..... I wish we would have seen Drew Stanton in there sometime this season.........he might not be the greatest QB or passer, but the guy sure knew how to scramble and avoid a sack at MSU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michiganbowhunter_SQ2 Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 If you dont agree SQ2...whats your answer for the last 3 or 4 Lions QB's that have been sacked so many times? I'm not trying to be nasty, but whens the last time the Lions havn't had the most allowed or nearly the most allowed sacks in the NFL? Joey Harringtons rookie year (or maybe his second year) they gave up the least amount of sacks in the league i do believe. but of course, it was joey harrington at QB Kitna is more accurate then harrington, and for the most part, makes better decisions when he actually decided to throw the ball, but they both sit in the pocket way to long instead of getting rid of the ball. I wish we would have seen Drew Stanton in there sometime this season.........he might not be the greatest QB or passer, but the guy sure knew how to scramble and avoid a sack at MSU. I wish we could have to, don't think he is the answer to their problems but would like to see someone more mobile in their. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted January 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Thomas, or Quinn should have been your pick. I can't believe you two, as Lions fans, are defending the Calvin Johnson pick. I'm not saying CJ isn't a talented player, but you have to draft for need every so often, ya know? Not to mention, any GM who looks at Quinn and thinks Drew Stanton is going to be a better QB who you can "steal" in the 2nd round needs to go because he doesn't know how to do his job. Plus, you already have a stud WR in Williams, not to mention good depth at that position. Defense, Oline, and a long-term QB have been a problem for that franchise for YEARS- and this guy keeps drafting wideouts- two of which were complete busts- yet he's still employed.:o Someone needs to start questioning ownership up there you'd think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig mack Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 The Lions should never draft a QB again. All they do is ruin their careers. To me, they had 2 choices, either Thomas or Johnson and they went with Johnson. Bottom line is they have been drafting top prospects for ever and very few have panned out. They need to go after proven free agents. But until they fire Millen nothing will change. I just wonder why people go to the games and support that sorry organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted January 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 The Lions should never draft a QB again. All they do is ruin their careers. To me, they had 2 choices, either Thomas or Johnson and they went with Johnson. Bottom line is they have been drafting top prospects for ever and very few have panned out. They need to go after proven free agents. But until they fire Millen nothing will change. I just wonder why people go to the games and support that sorry organization. I don't think you can build a winning team through free agency. It has to be done through good drafting. Yeah, you should supplement those draft picks with free agents, but you can't rely on that 100%. You'll spend too much money and positive results will be short lasting. Look at the Redskins, they've been trying to build through free agency for years and it's been ugly. Sure, they made the playoffs, but they barely squeeked in and it's the NFC where 9-7 gets you a berth. And you can look at the Browns and realize they're troubles stem from poor drafting. The consistantly good teams, build through good drafting, teams like the Steelers, Pats, Colts etc... With Millen there, good drafting isn't gonna happen. I don't care how good a guy is, you cannot take 4 WR's with your last 5 1st round picks. You'll never win that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckbuster11 Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 I don't think you can build a winning team through free agency. It has to be done through good drafting. Yeah, you should supplement those draft picks with free agents, but you can't rely on that 100%. You'll spend too much money and positive results will be short lasting. Look at the Redskins, they've been trying to build through free agency for years and it's been ugly. Sure, they made the playoffs, but they barely squeeked in and it's the NFC where 9-7 gets you a berth. And you can look at the Browns and realize they're troubles stem from poor drafting. The consistantly good teams, build through good drafting, teams like the Steelers, Pats, Colts etc... With Millen there, good drafting isn't gonna happen. I don't care how good a guy is, you cannot take 4 WR's with your last 5 1st round picks. You'll never win that way. To add to that............of all 22 starters for the Colts when they opened this season not one of them has played for another team in their career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michiganbowhunter_SQ2 Posted January 4, 2008 Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Thomas, or Quinn should have been your pick. Whats funny is thatk before the draft you were saying how they shouldn't get thomas...typical muggs:rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted January 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2008 Whats funny is thatk before the draft you were saying how they shouldn't get thomas...typical muggs:rolleyes: Yeah, well, I'm also not Matt Millen who's paid to draft the right players for my team. Looks like our GM new enough to take big Joe...runner-up for rookie of the year mind you. Btw- do you care to mention the fact that I said CJ wasn't a good move? ....typical SQ2:rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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