Guest tkiser24263 Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 I have shot a few .243 caliber rifles. I was wondering how a .257 Roberts compares in recoil and knock-down power? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasDeerHunter Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 The .257 is a great round with very minimal recoil, however, the .243 is hard to beat. The .257 shoots a 115gr bullet I beleive and most folks shoot an 80gr or so in the .243, so the .257 has a little more meat to the projectile. I think the .243 probably shoots flatter and would be my choice. As far as knock down, well a bullet does not actually knock down a deer. The direct shock to the central nervous system is what causes a deer to collapse, not the impact force of a bullet. The more energy transferred to the deer by the projectile betters your chances of shocking the nervous system and putting him on the ground. I am not certain without looking a ballistic table if the .257 delivers more energy than the .243. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tkiser24263 Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 I am wanting to get a good deer rifle for my girlfriend, a first time hunter. Which caliber would be better for her? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted January 24, 2008 Report Share Posted January 24, 2008 If you are going to step up from the .24 caliber to a .25 caliber, would look at the .25-06. Would not be much difference in recoil. Either or will get the job done on deer. The .25-06 and .243 both have better velocities, lesser drop, and better energies than the .257. Might look at this ballistic table for comparison and you will get a better picture http://www.remington.com/products/ammunition/ballistics/choose_specific_loads.aspx?c1=9&c2=13&c3=10. Just click on the loads you are interested in and compare. My wife and daughter both shoot 100 grain rounds from .243's. The wife uses remington corelokts and my daughter shoots winchester power points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasDeerHunter Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Recoil will be affected by the load and the rifle, but here is some general info on recoil energy. .243 - about 8lbs .260 - about 10lbs .257 - about 10lbs .25-06 - about 12.5lbs .270 - about 18lbs As you can see, there is a considerable difference between the .270 and the others. I am a short action fan and would not reccomend the .270 for a woman. You can load the .260 with 100gr, 120gr, and 140gr bullets, so it is a pretty versatile round for coyote,pigs,pronghorn, and deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wadeocu Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 257 ... 250 savage is worth a look too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Hands down 243 over the roberts for 3 reasons. Flatter shooting Lower recoil More power Cheaper amo Ouch http://www.midwayusa.com/ebrowse.exe/browse?TabID=3&Categoryid=9359&categorystring=653***690*** More ammo choices Walmart don't carry 250 savage and that's the only place to get ammo around here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 OOps I was looking at the 250 Savage. The roberts does have more power than the 243. But the 243 is still going to be cheaper to shoot. http://www.pacinfo.com/~dropinsator/chart2.htm#250%20Savage Ballistics http://www.midwayusa.com/ebrowse.exe/browse?CurrentSort=manufacturer_a&CurrentCountRet=20&CurrentManufacture=AnyCompany&CategoryString=653***690***&CategoryID=7971&BrandID=&page=1&KeyWord=&TabID=3&company_select=AnyCompany&search_keywords2=&sort1=price_low&PageSelect=1&RecordsReturned=20&PageSelect2=1&RecordsReturned2=20 Cost Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 The roberts does have more power than the 243. But the 243 is still going to be cheaper to shoot. Not sure for handloading, but in factory loads, the .243 has better performance in deer bullets than the .257 according to both winchester and remingtons sites John, and is considerably flatter shooting over longer distances. As mentioned there are plenty of options with the .243 too, and it is good to know you can go to pretty well any wal mart and get ammo. Remington and winchester both have just one load for the .257 which is a 117 grain core lokt or power point. If you want to step up to a .25, look at the .25-06, but the .243 is good enough to hunt deer with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Finn Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Why on earth would you want an obscure caliber like a 257 over a 243 when the difference is so little, you'll never be able to distinguish them? I'll bet in similar model rifles, you won't notice any difference in recoil. You'll pay more for bullets and have a harder time finding them, can't see any other reason to get a 257. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasDeerHunter Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 I see that a couple of folks brought up a good point about ammo cost and availability. The .243 would be your best bet for those reasons, I recommended the .260 because of the versatility to shoot 100gr on up to 140gr. Like I stated before, it is hard to beat the .243. I also noticed some folks reccomending a couple of larger calibers ( ie: 35, 308, 270 ), while they may not think the recoil is too heavy , I don't think they are considerin that we are looking for a rifle for a beginner female. I am blessed to have the opportunity to guide hunts for several children and some new hunters each year and will tell you from experience that in most cases it is best to bring them in shooting a rifle or shotgun with very minimal recoil. I definately would not consider a rifle with a felt recoil energy of more than 10lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David_218 Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Both .243 Winchester & .257 Roberts are fine cartridges, with good accuracy and mild recoil. However you might look at the 6 m/m Remington. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotashRLS Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 Also take a look at the 7mm-08 as it gets a ton of awesome reviews as a deer caliber. Ammo is nearly as popular as the .243 in most sporting goods stores. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Givan Posted January 25, 2008 Report Share Posted January 25, 2008 I would choose the .243 anyday. Small recoil, ammo is easy to find, and it is very flat over long distances. In fact, my dads .243 hits dead on with no hold over out to 175 yards. Definitley gets the job done on deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted January 26, 2008 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 Check this out. For recoild I've never seen anything better. Simple to read and lots of info. http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted January 26, 2008 Report Share Posted January 26, 2008 Recoil is realitive to the shooter...I started out on a .270 feather weight at the age of 12...and I was a little kid! I seen in a recent "boar hunter" mag. a picture of an 8 year old (yes I said 8 year old) who shot a pig with a 7mm STW. I would think just about any woman could handle a .270. Although a .243 does have less felt recoil...shot placement is key. Its key on any cal. but the smaller the bullet...the more key it becomes. I wouldn't personally recommend any thing smaller than a .25 cal. for a beginner. I have a .25 WSSM that shoots great and does a good job on deer. There are alot better options than a .243 (although it will work). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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