ParrotHead Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Another story from the wonderful world of government education. We take you to South Cobb High School in the suburbs of Atlanta. Incoming high school freshmen will take World Geography. The syllabus for World Geography contains the following entry: Bathroom Passes: You will have five passes for the semester. If you use your passes you will not be allowed to go after that point. You will receive extra credit for the unused passes. I have read and understand the behavior expectations. Parent Signature ___________________________ Student Signature __________________________ Amazing. You are in that class to learn geography. You might not know where Sri Lanka is, but that won't matter if you can just refrain from going to the bathroom. New bumper stickers are being handed out: "My child is a constipated honor student at South Cobb High." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherguy Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Re: Our “public” schools – a place for higher learning It may seem extreme but i can recall that "bathroom breaks" were abused to a ridiculous extent. There were many students who used that as an excuse to wander for the duration of the clss rather than learn. Really, they can go between classes, and at lunch. Now figure that if a student has 6 classes, that is 30 times they can leave a class. I really see no reason why a student would have to leave the same class more than five times in one term. The fact they are offering extra credit suggests it may be an attemt tp keep students from using that as an excuse to regularly leave class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Re: Our “public” schools – a place for higher lear Fisherguy hit the nail on the head.....what is the point of this post??? You get credit for using your break to hit the head when your supposed to go...extra credit has been given out for this type of thing for along time. The point of the extra credit? You stay in class so you learn everything...Five points during a term adds up to about .5% in case you missed math class in school because you where hitting the head too much lets work it out, class has ohh 700 points in a quarter, said student gets 640 of the possible points...that gives him a 91.4% or in my school system a A- Lets say the same student save's all of his passes the teacher gives him, and gets five points of extra credit(1 point for each pass x number of passes=5) that gives him 645 of the possible 700 points or a 92.1% so those points your so worried about just raised his grade a wopping .7% or still a A- hmm i dont think Sir Lanka had anything to do with the grade, but i think by throwing the BIG WORD of EXTRA CREDIT out there the teacher has kept people in class and they have learned more than they would have takeing 20 piss breaks in a quarter. Polly want another cracker??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Re: Our “public” schools – a place for higher lear It's kind of like putting a SALE sign in front of an item that really isn't on SALE..but you bought it just because the sign said SALE.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Re: Our “public” schools – a place for higher lear Seems pretty stupid to me PH. Seems if I remember right in junior and high school you were expected to go to the restrooms between classes or at lunch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Re: Our “public” schools – a place for higher lear Well let me ask you this William, kids these days will use a bathroom break and stay out of class forever, what are you going to tell parents "No kids arnt allowed to use the bathroom in my class" i can see where that would lead. By giving hall passes it rewards(if you can call that a reward) kids who stick it out through class or go before hand like you are supposed too. Kids who want to blow off get five chances after that your **** out of luck. When i was in school you had to have all five passes to get the credit. It is a simple concept here people, and it has been done for about 15 years now. All of a sudden its a crisis...no. Its actually a pretty good system in my opinion. The only people who really get a reward from that .5% are the kids who have stuck it out all year and that little percent point bumps them from say an A to an A+. I'm done with this subject now, it should be moved to the lounge. It has NOTHING to do with politics, whats really stupid is that that anyone(me included) spent anytime on this subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Re: Our “public” schools – a place for higher lear I can understand the bathroom pass part, but I can't understand the extra credits part. Why does there need to be a reward of 5% giving. Does common-sense disipline have to be rewarded ?....I don't see way. 5% could be the difference between a passing mark or a failing mark. It would be pretty lame to pass a student, because he didn't go to the bathroom. Pretty lame (JMO} I guess carbonhunter just don't get it. If they had that in every class you could come out an honor student...LOL I had 10 classes in high-school. That would add up to 50% of my final average....cool. Maybe I should go back to school. If they had that when I was in high-school. I could have passed grade 9...LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Re: Our “public” schools – a place for higher lear Sherman...you dont get much math.....its not 5% its .5%...what dont i get bud???? It is done like that so it wont have the effect you just mentioned.........been awhile since school huh Its called a "ploy" it has virtually no effect on your grade but gets kids too stay in class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Re: Our “public” schools – a place for higher lear OK...5 % per semester adds up to 1.5 percent over the year. If every class had this it would add up to 15% of your total average. And yes, it has been a long time since I was in school. The rest I said above still stands. 15% would have gotten me a pass and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherguy Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Re: Our “public” schools – a place for higher lear lol buckee you must be like me in math. that would not make 15 % of the year. it would make up .5% of each class, but when the average is calsulated it would still only be .5% since in combining all of tha classes and calculating teh average each class only gets the .5 as part of it, not of the total average. ok that doesn't read very clearly. say you get 80 in every class, the .5 makes that 80.5 in every class. you then have say 6 classees per term times 3 terms. that means without the extra .5 your average would be 80.5 (see nice and simple since you got the same mark in everything, no calculation required lol). whithout the extra .5 your average is 80%. it does not just add to the total, it adds.5 to the total for each class which then has a minimal effect on your overall average. May not be the clearest example but hey i am mathematically challenged. oh, i think this may be a better explanation. if you had 5 classes per term, that would be a total of 2.5%...but that is 2.5% of 500%(a total of 100 in each of the 5 classes). WHen you calcualte the average and divide by 5 to make the mark out of 100, you reduce the wieght of teh .5% back to .5 out of 100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSGB Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Re: Our “public” schools – a place for higher learning I think the post was meant to show that they let you know they are giving extra credit for not going to the bathroom, but there is no mention of what is expected as far as assignments/tests/homework. Usually, that is what a syllabus is for. I could be wrong, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Re: Our “public” schools – a place for higher lear Yep...I flunked math I still think it's stupid to reward a common-sense dicipline in the class...so there...ptttttttt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fisherguy Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Re: Our “public” schools – a place for higher learning [ QUOTE ] I think the post was meant to show that they let you know they are giving extra credit for not going to the bathroom, but there is no mention of what is expected as far as assignments/tests/homework. I could be wrong, though. [/ QUOTE ] I think you are probably right, and agree, but it is amazing how big an issue the bathroom thing seems to have become. Teachers are held accountable if their students do poorly so they need to try to force them to learn. And buckee i would agree if i hadn't finished high school 5 years ago. Common sense is lost, and they need to try any and all means to bribe stident sto learn. A sad but true fact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Re: Our “public” schools – a place for higher lear I wasn't a good student in school, and it wasn't from going to the bathroom too much ...LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParrotHead Posted January 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Re: Our “public” schools – a place for higher lear Ok - in Carbon's world it's quite possible that someone could gain a higher grade over someone else for the sole reason that they can hold their piss a little longer......and he's defending this to the point of getting out his crayons and drawing a picture for all of us that can't add or subtract or didn't graduate with a financial degree and a 3.88 GPA. from a major University.....gee thanks for the lesson of the day. Hey, here's a NOVEL IDEA - If they fail class because they're goofing off the boys room then keep there little butts back until they 18 and then kick their sorry butts out of school! You want to know what's wrong with "No child left behind"? EVERY child eventually is left behind because of all the slackers that drag them down! Care to know what's right with private education? NO SLACKERS - thus no child is hendered from learning because one one or two dumb-butt'd kids that want to goof off. Keep your public schools - give credit for not going to the bathroom - what's next - get an A for eating your peas? All you're doing is creating a generation that is stupid and more dependant on the government - see Carbonhunter if you need an example! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Re: Our “public” schools – a place for higher lear [ QUOTE ] I think the post was meant to show that they let you know they are giving extra credit for not going to the bathroom, but there is no mention of what is expected as far as assignments/tests/homework. Usually, that is what a syllabus is for. I could be wrong, though. [/ QUOTE ] I REALLY doubt that was the full extent of the syllabus.....if so that is the shortest syllabus I have ever seen in my life!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSGB Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Re: Our “public” schools – a place for higher lear [ QUOTE ] The syllabus for World Geography contains the following entry : [/ QUOTE ] After reading the post again, I realize I was wrong. I should just stay out of here like I normally do. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParrotHead Posted January 12, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Re: Our “public” schools – a place for higher lear [ QUOTE ] The syllabus for World Geography contains the following entry: [/ QUOTE ] For those that can actually read and compehend what they're reading - this should be explanation enough. "contains the following entry" in simple terms means it's a portion of the syllabus. For those that can't, I can only assume that you got extra credit in English Class.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Re: Our “public” schools – a place for higher lear [ QUOTE ] Ok - in Carbon's world it's quite possible that someone could gain a higher grade over someone else for the sole reason that they can hold their piss a little longer......and he's defending this to the point of getting out his crayons and drawing a picture for all of us that can't add or subtract or didn't graduate with a financial degree and a 3.88 GPA. from a major University.....gee thanks for the lesson of the day. Hey, here's a NOVEL IDEA - If they fail class because they're goofing off the boys room then keep there little butts back until they 18 and then kick their sorry butts out of school! You want to know what's wrong with "No child left behind"? EVERY child eventually is left behind because of all the slackers that drag them down! Care to know what's right with private education? NO SLACKERS - thus no child is hendered from learning because one one or two dumb-butt'd kids that want to goof off. Keep your public schools - give credit for not going to the bathroom - what's next - get an A for eating your peas? All you're doing is creating a generation that is stupid and more dependant on the government - see Carbonhunter if you need an example! [/ QUOTE ] Now this is the only statement made to this point that has made any sense at all....DISIPLINE people DISIPLINE....children of today really know the ins and outs of playing a system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Sauceman Posted January 12, 2005 Report Share Posted January 12, 2005 Re: Our “public” schools – a place for higher learning WAIT..... I'll be right back..I gotta go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Re: Our “public” schools – a place for higher learning [ QUOTE ] WAIT..... I'll be right back..I gotta go! [/ QUOTE ] You back yet Norm...Hope you realize this is going to cost you .5% of your total grade...WAIT you took too long this has to be a even 1% og your total grade... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Re: Our “public” schools – a place for higher lear Ok - in Carbon's world it's quite possible that someone could gain a higher grade over someone else for the sole reason that they can hold their piss a little longer......and he's defending this to the point of getting out his crayons and drawing a picture for all of us that can't add or subtract or didn't graduate with a financial degree and a 3.88 GPA. from a major University.....gee thanks for the lesson of the day. PPhhhttt....you grad. college and dont know the differance between a computer and a crayon........Man you must feel stupid. No what you are saying CANT happen....thats the point. The grade has nothing to do with your piss passes...and have everything to do with keeping kids in class. In carbons world......No its the real world you posted the syllabus not me squak squak squak!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Schmeck Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Re: Our “public” schools – a place for higher learning That's nothing! The ebonics class gets a passing grade for cutting school completely and hanging out on the street corner and acting like an ape! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbonhunter Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Re: Our “public” schools – a place for higher lear Im shure living in atlanta PH knows all about that Bruce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markyj987 Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Re: Our “public” schools – a place for higher lear I was an excellent student in high school. There was absolutely NO correlation between my bathroom use and my grades. Considering how much coffee and soda I would drink before school, there's no way I'd have made it through Biology my soph. year without some Depends. LOL We had four minutes between classes. Even in a small school, it could be hard getting to the bathroom between classes just because there would be a line a lot of times. And if you were late for your next class--three tardies=a detention...LOL I have no problem with extra credit, but extra credit for not using the bathroom? I always thought that teachers should be stingy with opportrunities for extra credit--and that they should relate to the subject matter and involve work that could only be done during the student's free time out of school. That biology teacher, for instance, gave us extra credit for participating in Wisconsin's sandhill crane count that the DNR held every year. I can't remember if it was two or four hours--but it involved getting out into the fields by 4 AM and counting birds. Perhaps he was a little too generous in the extra credit he awarded (8%), but I didn't mind getting a 108% in Biology, Biology 2, and Environmental Biology...LOL The amount aside, it was at least in context with the classes' topic matter--and it was extra (outside) of the normal curriculum the school had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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