Tominator Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Let's pretend. You go hunting, you get a shot on a deer, you hit the deer with your arrow, but for whatever reason, you do not recover the deer. Did you miss the shot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobucks Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Yep, just not a clean miss. You obviously didn't hit where you were aiming, so it's a miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted January 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Yep, just not a clean miss. You obviously didn't hit where you were aiming, so it's a miss. Geez, let me hit enter before you answer DB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobucks Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 I got my vote in, ya misser! Let me rephrase my original answer - Did you "hit" or "miss" your mark? Hey, happens to all of us.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Givan Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 You hit the animal, but not where you should have. Its a miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Let's pretend. You go hunting, you get a shot on a deer, you hit the deer with your arrow, but for whatever reason, you do not recover the deer. Did you miss the shot? Let's go this route ... This happened this season. I shot a doe a little far back, I let her lay overnight, but didn't recover her before the dogs had their meal ... Did I miss because the deer didn't come home with me .. ?? .. :confused: I would say NOT.. I'm with the Colossal DB Chris on this one ,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAhunter14 Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 you were aiming for the deer....you wounded the deer....therefor you hit the deer. its a hit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 A hit. That is an unrecovered animal, not a miss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 A hit. That is an unrecovered animal, not a miss. Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobucks Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 I guess I'm in the minority here. How about if you placed a target the size of a paper plate on a bale of hay. You aim at the plate, miss the plate, but hit the bale, is that a hit or a miss? Same deal with a deer IMO. The vitals are the paper plate target, the rest of the deer is the just a hay bale. **** If you don't hit where your aiming, it's a miss. **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 **** If you don't hit where your aiming, it's a miss. **** Many years ago I took a snap shot (with a rifle) at close range on a running buck. Hit him in the head and killed that sucker dead as a hammer. Only problem is, I was aiming for the shoulder! Guess I missed, but that missed buck sure was tasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobucks Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Many years ago I took a snap shot (with a rifle) at close range on a running buck. Hit him in the head and killed that sucker dead as a hammer. Only problem is, I was aiming for the shoulder! Guess I missed, but that missed buck sure was tasty. So the real question is, "Is it a hit, a miss, or did I just flat get lucky on a poor shot?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotashRLS Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 A hit. That is an unrecovered animal, not a miss. Yep, I agree!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dosse Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 No that is a wound or a cripple. Not a miss at all to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 I guess I'm in the minority here. How about if you placed a target the size of a paper plate on a bale of hay. You aim at the plate, miss the plate, but hit the bale, is that a hit or a miss? Same deal with a deer IMO. The vitals are the paper plate target, the rest of the deer is the just a hay bale. **** If you don't hit where your aiming, it's a miss. **** Think you are wrong Tom. A paper plate is an inanimate object, big difference. When you shoot at a target, if you do not hit in the vitals, but hit just outside them, did you miss the target? No you did not. And sometimes even though a hit may not be a quick fatal hit, it still might be a fatal hit, and the deer may die unrecovered. That deer was hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobucks Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Think you are wrong Tom. A paper plate is an inanimate object, big difference. When you shoot at a target, if you do not hit in the vitals, but hit just outside them, did you miss the target, no you did not. And sometimes even though a hit may not be a quick fatal hit, it still might be a fatal hit, and the deer may die unrecovered. You're right William, there is a big difference. If I missed a paper plate, I wouldn't care. But since I "hit" and wounded a deer instead, I care. I guess I thought the point of shooting at a deer was to kill it. To kill it (and recover it) you need to hit where you are aiming, unless you are relying on some luck involved. I am in no way saying I've never wounded a deer. I wounded a few over the years, but I've never considered them hit. I missed hitting what I was aiming at. You may think I'm wrong, but I'm not..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Let's pretend. You go hunting, you get a shot on a deer, you hit the deer with your arrow, but for whatever reason, you do not recover the deer. Did you miss the shot? Well, you may have missed the shot, but you didn't miss the deer, so it's a hit. Just not a good one. I'd call it a miss on the target range, but not on a live animal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michiganbowhunter_SQ2 Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 I wouldn't know, I've always completely missed em :D:o I'd say both...you "hit" the deer, but "missed" where you were aiming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoytman26 Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 A miss is when you miss. It doesnt get any easier than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhine16 Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 If you hit the deer, then how is it a miss???? You're shooting at a deer. While you may be aiming for vitals, in the big picture the vitals are part of the deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeygirl Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Guess it depends on how you view it...to me, it's not a miss. I hit the animal and despite the attempt, didn't find it. To me, a miss didn't hit anything. If I hit a deer and can't find it...I did hit it....and I feel rotten about it, but it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThethirdI Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 I'm going to have to go with a Hit on this one. If it draws blood it's a hit. I have shaved hairs off before and drew no blood and I consider those a miss, but if it draws blood.....Like I said it's a Hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobucks Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 One last lame attempt to make my point on how I see this one. When shooting at a deer with archery equipment, where do you aim? Vitals? Leg? Rump? Head? Vitals, right? Did you hit where you where aiming, yes or no? If your answer is "no, I didn't hit where I was aiming", than how could you say this was not a miss? Physically you may have hit the deer with your arrow, but you still "missed" the shot. BTW, thanks DB Chris for helping me look like an even bigger AF to others who may have considered me just an AF before this thread...... :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RangerClay Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 So Tom, if I break into your house to rob you. You confront me and I shoot you in the guts with a .22, and you crawl off to hide. Can I tell the judge that I missed you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 You're right William, there is a big difference. If I missed a paper plate, I wouldn't care. But since I "hit" and wounded a deer instead, I care. I guess I thought the point of shooting at a deer was to kill it. To kill it (and recover it) you need to hit where you are aiming, unless you are relying on some luck involved. I am in no way saying I've never wounded a deer. I wounded a few over the years, but I've never considered them hit. I missed hitting what I was aiming at. You may think I'm wrong, but I'm not..... Think anyone can be off and hit slightly or even more than slightly away from where they intended, but that still is not a miss. I will only call a shot that did not touch the animal a miss, but that is my opinion . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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