Randy Posted February 4, 2008 Report Share Posted February 4, 2008 Does anyone have a pole building home? I think Lee and Tiffany from "Getting Close" live in one. I was just thinking that it would be an inexpensive way to have a really neat "open concept" home. Have I bumped my head or are there houses out there made like this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdvantageTimberLou Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Wonder if they give you a break on your taxes? MMMMMMM, you got me thinking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Wonder if they give you a break on your taxes? MMMMMMM, you got me thinking! YES they do get a tax break on a pole building..I know of a couple around here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowJoe Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 I know of several people that have built them out of straight up barn designs. My wife and I both decided that our next home would be a pole barn house. It doesn't matter what they look like on the outside because you can make the inside as nice as you want. Not to mention that building on to one is as easy as removing some screws and putting some posts in the ground and pouring some concrete. Here's a few that I love. Just take the stall doors off. http://www.homesteaddesign.com/framebarn.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted February 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 I know of several people that have built them out of straight up barn designs. It doesn't matter what they look like on the outside because you can make the inside as nice as you want.That's what I was thinking! I would put radiant heat in the floor and build a couple bedrooms and maybe a loft. You could do the inside in all knotty pine and put in a huge fieldstone fireplace and still be WAY cheaper than a conventional home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WVdeerhunter Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 That's what I was thinking! I would put radiant heat in the floor and build a couple bedrooms and maybe a loft. You could do the inside in all knotty pine and put in a huge fieldstone fireplace and still be WAY cheaper than a conventional home. Here are some knotty pine and field stone pic. I made the pine boards from 12' x 11 5/8" x 3/4" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddyboman Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 I was told that getting it finance through a mortgage place would be next to impossible... But there has to be a way around that cause I have seen some around here... But the ones I have seen around here are really cool.....The insides are awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
okiedog Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 A couple of good friends of mine built some a few years back. The insides look truley awesome and you can not tell them from a regular stick built house from the inside. Both were built inside a 40' x 80' building. The plus side of them is hardly any maintainance to the outside and you can walk straight out of the house into the shop:D. I had plans draw for a stick built home, but have since ditched them and working on a layout for a house like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MUDRUNNER Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Quite a few of them around here.I framed and drywalled one for a guy from work a few years ago.From inside you would never no it was built inside a pole shed.His had 2 bedrooms,2 bathrooms,laundry room and a nice sized kitchen and family room.The only downside for our family would be no basement.Wouldn't be bad after the kids are grown and moved out though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Yes you can build one out of a pole barn, however there are things you need to consider. Collateral loads, dead loads, wind loads, etc. Collateral loads are VERY important (sheet rock, insulation, fixtures, etc). Other loads are very important too (depending on where you live). Wind loads in the plains, snow up north, seismic out west, etc. It doesn’t mean that a nice house couldn’t be built out of one but I wouldn’t use a "pole barn." They are typically lacking in design. They are fine for a barn or shop but not a house. Here is what you do, buy a pre-engineered metal building, roof system only. You frame the outside walls exactly like a stick framed house. You can then deck those walls and do siding, brick, etc. Your walls are still a standard thickness yet you still get a “clear-span” interior. Typically when you frame inside of a “pole barn” your exterior walls will be around 10”-12” thick. If you use standard 6” studs on those walls (in a pre-engineered building) you no longer have that problem. Also, you now have what looks like a stick framed home with a metal roof. The interior is truly a “clear-span” so you can have the open design, non load bearing walls, etc. Vaulted ceilings are a snap too so you can really open the house up. This design is easier to get a loan on (typically) because the shell is actually engineered. Pole barns often claim to be engineered but truly aren’t by real definition. You will also get some breaks. Number one, most metal building mfg’ers offer a UL90 rating on their roofs. What does that mean to the consumer? Insurance breaks. The UL90 rating guarantees that if the roof is put on correctly it will not blow off in 90mph straight line winds. Even if you’ve never seen them insurance companies offer discounts for them. Also, pre-engineered metal buildings are all metal. If you use steel studs to frame you will get another insurance break because of the “all steel” home….. termites prefer wood. Other things to consider: Pole barns often use 29ga ag panel. That’s fine for a true pole barn. However on a house 29ga panel is FAR to light, especially for a roof unless it has decking under it. A little hale and its dented up, bad. Pre-engineered metal buildings have 26gauge panel and are a LOT tougher. The Siliconized Polyester finish is typically better too. Also, 26ga and 24ga panels are often available in Kynar, Hylar, or other better grades of paint that will fade far less over the years. Final little tidbit: Insulation. Most Pole Barns use a thin vapor bearer for insulation such as “Double Bubble.” They boast an insulation value of roughly R11 when it reality it couldn’t offer half that. Those results are with hot box testing and aren’t accurate. Hotbox testing doesn’t take into account airflow. Most if not all pre engineered metal building mfg’ers use 3”RV or VRV insulation that truly has a R11 insulation value. Most offer a cheap upgrade to R13. You can then add more insulation behind the sheetrock ceilings and have a well insulated house without a lot of hassle…… There are a ton of other benefits but those are a pretty easy run down for comparison. Ive been involved in this stuff for years and can talk it all day…… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowJoe Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Well, I think you've found your source. LOL.:eek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted February 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 Thanks everybody, I got something to work with anyways. BTW, Jeramie you better stick around here a few years, cause I'm going to need ya!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMn106 Posted February 5, 2008 Report Share Posted February 5, 2008 This is a pretty neat idea. I do not know much about building homes so if someone could, give me an insight on how much it would cost to build one like this. I know it will vary and depend on what you use but I was just looking for a ball park type figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 Thanks everybody, I got something to work with anyways. BTW, Jeramie you better stick around here a few years, cause I'm going to need ya!! Ive been here just over 7-years..... Im not going anywhere.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted February 6, 2008 Report Share Posted February 6, 2008 This is a pretty neat idea. I do not know much about building homes so if someone could, give me an insight on how much it would cost to build one like this. I know it will vary and depend on what you use but I was just looking for a ball park type figure. The area youre in makes a huge difference. A $165k home around here is a nice home but in other places its just a starter. The plus side is the building itself will cost close to the same. The loads may increase the strength (increasing the cost slightly) but nothing horrible. Everything else is up to region. Keep in mind a floorplan, types of materials, etc also makes a HUGE difference. In youre area I would guess you could build a decent to moderate house for roughly $80 to $125k depending on floor plans, frills, etc. Keep in mind that a corner tub is over 1k, a fireplace will run you several thousands, etc. The biggest advantage ive seen to using a building is that you can "dry it in" in no time. If youre building in the winter you can frame interior walls (plumbing, electric, etc) during the winter in a heated shell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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