Bowtech_archer07 Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Check this article out! http://www.sj-r.com/News/stories/24657.asp This guy should have gotten way more than a $7500 fine for what he did.:mad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 I have to agree with you there. He got off way to easy. I wouldn't have bought that remorseful statement about it being the biggest mistake he ever made. The 3 bucks, 2 transported out of state, and his claim one was killed in TN is 6 mistakes...not one. Makes you wonder if him being an attorney has something to do with why the judge was so lenient with the sentence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonLester Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 "Tennessee hunter fined $7,500 for breaking state, federal laws " Heres my problem They still refer to him as a hunter. He's a poacher not a hunter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambo Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Why didn't this poacher lose his hunting rights? I agree with Jason he is not a hunter. And he leaves Hadley Creek Outfitters with a black eye. You would hope the outfitter didn't know of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowtech_archer07 Posted February 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 I believe he lost all hunting privileges in IL. That was from the local news back home relayed to me by a family member. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 I have to agree with you there. He got off way to easy. I wouldn't have bought that remorseful statement about it being the biggest mistake he ever made. The 3 bucks, 2 transported out of state, and his claim one was killed in TN is 6 mistakes...not one. Makes you wonder if him being an attorney has something to do with why the judge was so lenient with the sentence. Yeah really eh. Real remorseful. That was the second thing that slapped me in the face too. And since when is a premeditated act considered a mistake. Sounds like maybe he was referring to the mistake of getting caught. "Tennessee hunter fined $7,500 for breaking state, federal laws " Heres my problem They still refer to him as a hunter. He's a poacher not a hunter. Yeah, the title got my dander up, right off the bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Glad they caught him, but that poacher should be serving some jail time. Seems $7500 for an attorney/real estate agent is a joke for a fine. Tennessee needs to step and prosecute the piece of crap too and make an example. Unfortunately this state is not strict enough with enforcing the laws in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigalt78 Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 i dont know what its like where you guys live but i've heard of a lot of people doing stuff like this here in ohio, and im about 15 minutes from indiana and a lot of people over there too but they just havnt got caught some have but a lot havnt but their day will come i guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 Increasing problem It's ashame, but here in Illinois these stories are more and more common. I shot a great buck on the last day of the 07 season at last light. I was unsure of my shot at 30 yards and decided to wait until the next morning to find him. I did find him 150 yards from the spot of the shot. I was worried that when I checked the deer in (via telephone) that I would be charged with a fine or something because i was checking the deer in one day past the legal season. I contacted the chief of conservation law enforcement and was willing to drive my buck to his office many miles away so there was no dobt that the deer was a bow kill and that the deer had been shot the night before (the deer was stiff by this time). He commended me for my efforts and stated it wasn't necessary. He gave me his name and said if I ever had any problems to contact him and he would defend my story. It's too bad when we "hunters" take every effort to be legal and ethically harvest our quary and then people like the guy in the story go around doing stuff like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubie Posted February 8, 2008 Report Share Posted February 8, 2008 I pulled a little bit of an oops this past season. I had killed the deer, notched my tag and field dressed it. However, law states you don't have to affix your tag to the animal until you get it to transport. Thats where I goofed. I had to walk about a mile out of the woods to get cell phone, then called up my brother to bring his truck. Him and my dad showed up, helped me drag the deer to the trail and load it onto the truck. It was a pretty nice deer, we were yacking about the spread and the body size. Came time to go, and I forgot to tie the tag on. I didn't realize until the Game Warden stopped the truck on the way out (I was following in my car). I immediately provided my tag, and explained the situation. He complimented my deer, did some quick rack measurments out of curiosity, said he understood the situation. Then he promptly came back with a nice ticket (in the 160 class, deffinatly bigger then the buck). Now thats a mistake. If I deliberatly snuck the deer out, fraudulently tagged it, going as far as crossing provincal borders to cover it up, then it would have been outright poaching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CSRoth Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 glad he got caught fine should have been more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonLester Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 Then he promptly came back with a nice ticket (in the 160 class, deffinatly bigger then the buck). ouch!!! I've forgot that myself. never got a ticket though. I better watch it. I only drive about 3 miles to the checkin station though, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest elevenpointer64 Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 glad he got caught fine should have been more i agree!should have lost hunting privilages for life!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowtech_archer07 Posted February 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 He lost his hunting privileges in IL for life elevenpointer64. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowhntr Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Why didn't this poacher lose his hunting rights? I agree with Jason he is not a hunter. And he leaves Hadley Creek Outfitters with a black eye. You would hope the outfitter didn't know of this. He was a GUIDE with Hadley Creek and the bucks in question were used in Hadley Creeks' advertising. YES, they knew. I'm hearing that there may be a lot more to come out of this before it is over. I'm hoping Hadley Creek gets their outfitter license pulled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 He was a GUIDE with Hadley Creek and the bucks in question were used in Hadley Creeks' advertising. YES, they knew. I'm hearing that there may be a lot more to come out of this before it is over. I'm hoping Hadley Creek gets their outfitter license pulled. They should definately get their license pulled...permanently! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetucker Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Makes you wonder if him being an attorney has something to do with why the judge was so lenient with the sentence. exactly what i was thinking!!Didn't say anything about him loosing his lawyer privledges either!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_in_cky25 Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 i figured Tenn would be as strict as other states i know i KY they practically crucify you if you poach, one of my friends will tell you he got caught shooting from the road and they took everything gun, truck, fine, and denied him hunting rights for god knows how long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubie Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 i figured Tenn would be as strict as other states i know i KY they practically crucify you if you poach, one of my friends will tell you he got caught shooting from the road and they took everything gun, truck, fine, and denied him hunting rights for god knows how long. Thats how it is around here. Not to mention, ontop of loosing your hunting/trapping privlidges, chances are you can't buy guns either (if you can afford them, after loosing your truck and paying the fine). On the other hand, I've seen a case or two of guilty with explinations, where the odd folk will take an out of season deer to top up the freezer, and they pretty much get off scott free.. Far as I'm concerned though, an old farmer trying to live off of savings he don't have when he can't farm ain't hurting nothing by doing this. I mean, we let indians do it all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 i figured Tenn would be as strict as other states i know i KY they practically crucify you if you poach, one of my friends will tell you he got caught shooting from the road and they took everything gun, truck, fine, and denied him hunting rights for god knows how long. Tennessee is way to lenient in my opinion, most often when poachers are caught here they get a slap on the wrist. Nothing like Florida. I knew someone in Florida who got caught poaching(killed a deer on Disney property) and they took his new 4 runner, the gun, and fined him and made him do community service and pay retribution to Disney for the deer. Pretty sure he also lost his priveleges in the state. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BowtechBoy Posted February 19, 2008 Report Share Posted February 19, 2008 they should give him jail time and not let him guide or hunt in any state he broke laws in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Larry Harshey Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 I hunt in Pennsylvania and we have losers that drive around shooting deer from the road then talk about how hard they hunted and how big their buck are .Not fair to us honest hunters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotman Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 “The sport doesn’t need to be sullied like that.” Let me say I'm glad he got caught. I think as well he shouldn't be able to guide hunts any longer in that state. The problem I have with the quote is that hunting is being referred to as a sport. A sport involves competition something that deer hunting is not about for the majority of us hunters. Or is it? I also agree that man shouldn't be thought of as hunter he is a poacher. He defies everything fair chase hunters stand for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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