Guest SuperKirby Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 Hi everyone. I'm new here, so I'll start off by saying hi. Ok. I live in Wyoming, and I'm looking for a ML to use for deer season this year. I found a Knight KRB7 with a stainless barrel and black stock for $270. Is that a pretty good deal? From what I can tell it looks like it is. Does anyone have this gun, and if so, what can you tell me about it? Thanks for the help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierbuck Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 I like Knights, but can't tell you anything about that gun, except that is a pretty good deal on it. Welcome, and good luck! HB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billkay Posted February 21, 2008 Report Share Posted February 21, 2008 I hunted with that gun this past year. I love it. Accurate, well made and super accurate. Price is good. 1 button removal of trigger assem is nice and no discs to worry about. You can't go wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Welcome to the forums. Do not know all that much about knight ml'ers, but that does sound like a good deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SuperKirby Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Well, my birthday's in March, and yesterday my wife had to came home and said she stopped in to Sportsman's Warehouse and put it on layaway for me. She was going to wait, but decided she better get it on hold before it was gone, as earlier the guy that worked there had told us it was the only one in the store, and they wouldn't be getting anymore in. He told her when she went in to get it that they (Sportsman's Warehouse) wasn't carrying them anymore and so they were clearancing them out, and that gun was 3% under what the store paid for it, so I'd say it's a pretty good deal. Anyone have anymore tips, pointers, etc. let me know. I can't wait to get it. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierbuck Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 My Knight shoots Powerbelts really well, even witha magnum charge. Might see if you like those. HB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aksheephuntress Posted February 22, 2008 Report Share Posted February 22, 2008 Welcome to the forums!....I shoot TC only, currently.......but, congrats on your new m.l.!!!-that will be fun this coming deer season!....does your wife hunt,too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billkay Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 Mine shoots very well with either 250 or 275 grain Barnes Spitzer Boattails and 3-50 777 pellets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SuperKirby Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 All I've shot in the past is Powerbelts, I still have a bunch of those that were given to me when I first got started in ML'ing, so I think I will use those to get it sighted in, then I'll experiment with both powerbelts and sabots and pyrodex and 777 to find a good load. My hunted the whole time she was growing up, but at this point is content just to be along and enjoys the walk. I keep trying to get her to get a tag again, but so far no luck. But it's nice just to have her along, so I won't complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michiganbowbender Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 It's a good deal. Prices here are a little higher. I just paid $365 for a stainless/camo KRB. The black/stainless was $299.Have not had it out, but from all reports I have heard, we will be very happy with them. don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SuperKirby Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Yeah, I can't wait to actually get it so I can take it out and see how it actually works. I'm also trying to talk my dad into a muzzleloader, so I'm hoping that he'll decided to get one too after shooting mine. Let me know if you get yours out and how it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michiganbowbender Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Will do. Just waiting for the weather to cooperate. I will be trying some lead conicals with about 75-85 grains of 777 first, and some sabots. I have been told it is a great conical shooting rifle. I had an Encore but sold it because the best groups I could get were with Powerbelts, and after taking 10 deer with them I decided Powerbelts were not for me.They grouped excellent and very easy to load, but no bloodtrails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SuperKirby Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 It would be great to have mine, it's been mid 40's to 50's all last week and supposed to be about the same here this week, except for maybe a day or two. Still good shooting weather. About Powerbelts, and I guess it doesn't matter all that much now, but I read somewhere that you get the best results with under 100 grains of powder for under 100 - 125 yrds. More powder than that and the powerbelts go right through but don't get the chance to expand, therefore no blood trail. I don't know how much of that is true, but I guess it sounds good. Again I don't know if there's any truth to it, and for the price of them, I probably won't use them once I run out or get my scope sighted in, whichever comes first. Don't know if you care about that or not, but it's something to ponder I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michiganbowbender Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 I was using 85 grains of 777 which was what the Encore wanted. It was 45 cal and I shot 275 grain powerbelts. Very accurate combination, but I never had a pass thru, hence no exit hole. They were deadly on deer as they expended all there energy inside the animal, which did massive damage internally. Some dropped on the spot, but of those that did not, a blood trail was most times non existent. I'm kinda anal about an exit hole, being a hardcore bowhunter. Makes recovery much easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SuperKirby Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Hmm, I guess I don't know. It was just something I read. I'm a little concerned as it sounds like it doesn't easily load with most saboted bullets, so I'm not sure what I'll end up using. I'll probably try some of the Knights, then after that I don't know. What conicals are you going to use? I'm really quite new to muzzleloading, so I can't say that I know a whole lot about conicals. I guess it might be time to learn though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierbuck Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 T/C markets these saboted rounds with a "super-glide" sabot, which does feel "slicker" than some of the plastic sabots. Below please find a reply from Powerbelt when I contacted them about on-game performance of their bullets. I killed 4 more deer this season with the Powerbelts, and just can't get over the terminal performance, even though I like a blood trail, too. I shoot 3-50 grain Pyrodex pellets behind a 225 gr. Powerbelt aerotip out of my Knight .45: Christopher wrote: > Hi Folks- > I am writing to make inquiry as to whether or not you are working on a > "bonded" bullet or have some other suggestions for me. I really like > the accuracy I get from Powerbelts. I have been shooting the 195 and > 225 grain Aerotips out of my Knight .45 pushed by 3 of the 50gr. > Pyrodex pellets. I am totally prepared for the long shot. > Fortunately, I often am given a short, VERY short shot. I shot two > does broadside at less than 15 yards this season. No exit wound on > either. The fragments I recovered scattered within the carcasses were > no bigger than 30 grains each. Many were just tiny bits. I'd like to > keep with your bullets, so I wonder what is in the works, or what you > would suggest. > Thanks, > Chris "Chris Thank you for your input we do appreciate it. The design and function of the Power Belt rely on a pure lead core with a very thin copper clad coat (.004) The bullet is .001 under the bore diameter and so it must be able to expand upon firing to engrave the rifling. Your load set up is perfect for those long range shot but not ideal for the short range kills. The key word here would be 'kill'. At those extreme close ranges you will have extreme shock, trauma and expansion....and death. With that same load at 200 yards (with the 225 gr.,223 gr. 275 gr. or the 300 gr.) you will have great accuracy, expansion and penetration......and death. I personally recommend the 223 gr. and 225 gr. on Deer size game up to the 220 lbs. range We do appreciate your business and your input and we will continue to work on producing the perfect bullet. That is our ultimate goal Thank you Dan " For your consideration HB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SuperKirby Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Sounds good to me. I plan to start with powerbelts, and if that's what works the best for accuracy, I imagine that's what I'll use. I will probably mess around with others some, but I'm also not going to use something that I have to spend a couple minutes trying to get down the barrel on a reload if I need a quick shot. Not to mention, an exit wound won't do any good if you don't have the accuracy to hit what you're shooting at. In the past I've hunted with a 7mm mauser and don't recall ever having an exit wound with it either. Still haven't lost a deer. I think the powerbelts I have are somewhere around 350 grains. I tihnk I might look at something a little lighter, and maybe try some of the other designs they have as well. Thanks for the information. Wonder if they'll come out with anything else soon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michiganbowbender Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 SuperKirby, here's a link that has a lot of great info about powerbelts, conicals etc. There is a fellow on there that goes by the name of Indiana SmokePole.Register and send him a pm. Tell him Don in Michigan sent ya. He has a KRB and many others, and is loaded with info he is willing to share concerning sabots or conical shooting with the KRB .Great guy, his name is Ron and I spent at least an hour on the phone with him. He can also set you up with some conicals at a reasonable price to try without buying a bunch if you wish, I got some from him. Bullshop 460 grain .504 diam and Bullshop 443 grain UC Shorts. I will be using a .510 wad over 75-85 grains of 777 ff powder and Win T7 primers. I also have been told that Hornaday Great Plains Bullets in 385 grains are good shooters in the KRB. I also have some of those to try. I will also be trying the TC 250 gr.Shockwave Superglides with the yellow sabots.Heres the link, lots of good reading there. http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tt.aspx?forumid=26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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