CampRAGS Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 School 1957 vs. School 2007 Scenario 1: Jack goes quail hunting before school, pulls into school parking lot with shotgun in gun rack. 1957 - Vice principal comes over, looks at Jack's shotgun, goes to his car and gets his own shotgun to show Jack. 2007 - School goes into lockdown, the FBI is called, Jack is hauled off to jail and never sees his truck or gun again. Counselors are called in to assist traumatized students and teachers. Scenario 2: Johnny and Mark get into a fistfight after school. 1957 - Crowd gathers. Mark wins. Johnny and Mark shake hands and end up buddies. 2007 - Police are called, SWAT team arrives and arrests Johnny and Mark. They are charged with assault and both are expelled even though Johnny started it. Scenario 3: Jeffrey won't sit still in class, disrupts other students. 1957 - Jeffrey is sent to the principal's office and given a good paddling. Returns to class, sits still and does not disrupt class again. 2007 - Jeffrey is given huge doses of Ritalin. Becomes a zombie. Tested for ADD. School gets extra state funding because Jeffrey has a disability. Scenario 4: Billy breaks a window in his neighbor's car and his Dad gives him a whipping with his belt. 1957 - Billy is more careful next time, grows up normal, goes to college, and becomes a successful businessman. 2007 - Billy's dad is arrested for child abuse. Billy is removed to foster care and joins a gang. State psychologist tells Billy's sister that she remembers being abused herself and their dad goes to prison. Billy's mom has an affair with the psychologist. Scenario 5: Mark gets a headache and takes some Aspirin to school. 1957 - Mark shares Aspirin with the school principal out on the smoking dock. 2007 - Police are called and Mark is expelled from School for drug violations. His car is searched for drugs and weapons. Scenario 6: Pedro fails high-school English. 1957 - Pedro goes to summer school, passes English, goes to college. 2007 - Pedro's cause is taken up by local human rights group. Newspaper articles appear nationally explaining that making English a requirement for graduation is racist. US Civil Liberties Association files class action lawsuit against state school system and Pedro's English teacher. English is banned from core curriculum. Pedro is given his diploma anyway but ends up mowing lawns for a living because he cannot speak English. Scenario 7: Johnny takes apart leftover Independence Day firecrackers, puts them in a model airplane paint bottle and blows up an anthill. 1957 - Ants die. 2007 - Homeland Security and the FBI are called and Johnny is charged with domestic terrorism. Teams investigate parents, siblings are removed from the home, computers are confiscated, and Johnny's dad goes on a terror watch list and is never allowed to fly again. Scenario 8: Johnny falls during recess and scrapes his knee. His teacher, Mary, finds him crying, and gives him a hug to comfort him. 1957 - Johnny soon feels better and goes back to playing. 2007 - Mary is accused of being a sexual predator and loses her job. She faces three years in federal prison. Johnny undergoes five years of therapy. WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO COMMON SENSE? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdhunter39 Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 sad but so true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 LOL--well, some truth to all that, but a lot of it is intended to make us laugh I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 LOL--well, some truth to all that, but a lot of it is intended to make us laugh I think. i have to disagree. i was in grade school in 1957, and remember taking my shotgun to school to hunt on the way home. we'd put it in the closet with the coats, and all was fine. the other scenarios played out similar, also. i'd also take galvenized 3/4 inch plumbing pipe scraps from new houses (askes the plumbers, of course). two 6" with threads and one 90 degree corner, made me a pistol. i'd drill a hole in the 90, put in a firecracker, shove dirt in the bottom 6" handel, put a marble in the barrel, light it and could blow a hole in a garbage can. many a cat didn't appreciate my crude kid weapon..... bottom line is, that pretty well summed up my 1957, and more. c'mon, orlan. spill it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 When I would take my dad's car to school and go hunting afterward, I would leave it unlocked with couple of guns in plan sight! No problem! In fact, one time we were getting out for lunch and the sheriff happened to drive by! He stopped and got in the car with me and my buddy so he could buy us lunch! He sat down right beside the guns in the back seat and never thought a thing about it! We had guns all over the place all the time and NOT ONE PERSON ever got shot or a gun accidentally went off! Never had problems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil hunter Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 i'd also take galvenized 3/4 inch plumbing pipe scraps from new houses (askes the plumbers, of course). two 6" with threads and one 90 degree corner, made me a pistol. i'd drill a hole in the 90, put in a firecracker, shove dirt in the bottom 6" handel, put a marble in the barrel, light it and could blow a hole in a garbage can. many a cat didn't appreciate my crude kid weapon... you're my hero. i'm tryin that sometime, and soon.lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkoholic Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 I do not think it was intended to make us laugh. Unfortunately, all of it is pretty much true. Life here in the United States started a steady down hill slide beginning in the late sixties and has been accelerating log rhythmically ever since. Liberalism has swung to the far side. Lack of responsibility and justice has progressed to the point where those breaking the rules have more rights than those who abide by them. People have lost respect for life. There has always been the doers of evil amongst us, but they were taken care of swiftly and with little fanfare. I would also leave the gun in the rack against the back window of my pickup, left unlocked, and on the way out of school the teachers and principle would wish me good luck on the hunt. Yes, we blew things up, made our own black powder and primitive firearms. We got a beating when we were bad (I deserved every one that I got) and our parents loved the heck out of us. That was a different time, a different world, and it is not coming back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 That was another thing we did in school! Make black powder in the science room! After we made a batch we would take it out and blow up stumps! Not very effective! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamphunter Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 How true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 I do not think it was intended to make us laugh. Unfortunately, all of it is pretty much true. Life here in the United States started a steady down hill slide beginning in the late sixties and has been accelerating log rhythmically ever since. Liberalism has swung to the far side. Lack of responsibility and justice has progressed to the point where those breaking the rules have more rights than those who abide by them. People have lost respect for life. There has always been the doers of evil amongst us, but they were taken care of swiftly and with little fanfare. I would also leave the gun in the rack against the back window of my pickup, left unlocked, and on the way out of school the teachers and principle would wish me good luck on the hunt. Yes, we blew things up, made our own black powder and primitive firearms. We got a beating when we were bad (I deserved every one that I got) and our parents loved the heck out of us. That was a different time, a different world, and it is not coming back. i have to disagree. i was in grade school in 1957, and remember taking my shotgun to school to hunt on the way home. we'd put it in the closet with the coats, and all was fine. the other scenarios played out similar, also. i'd also take galvenized 3/4 inch plumbing pipe scraps from new houses (askes the plumbers, of course). two 6" with threads and one 90 degree corner, made me a pistol. i'd drill a hole in the 90, put in a firecracker, shove dirt in the bottom 6" handel, put a marble in the barrel, light it and could blow a hole in a garbage can. many a cat didn't appreciate my crude kid weapon..... bottom line is, that pretty well summed up my 1957, and more. c'mon, orlan. spill it.... Yeah, you guys spend tons of time in the public school system everyday, right? I dare say you are buying into the media sesationalism. I bring my shotgun to work on occasion, and my bow is in my truck for most of bow season too. I know for a fact many of my students do the same thing. Like I said SOME of the original post is true, but A LOT of that is media hype and sensationalism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Yeah, you guys spend tons of time in the public school system everyday, right? I dare say you are buying into the media sesationalism. I bring my shotgun to work on occasion, and my bow is in my truck for most of bow season too. I know for a fact many of my students do the same thing. Like I said SOME of the original post is true, but A LOT of that is media hype and sensationalism. Signage at the school entrances here say no firearms allowed on the premises. btw way you misspelled sensationalism:p. Have to admit once when dropping off my oldest at school 4 or 5 years ago, that I had an unloaded rifle in the back of the cab of the truck and a deer on the tailgate as I rode through the school parking lot. That was the first time ever I had noticed those signs:o. Knowing that the principal at the middle school hunts and that likely some of the faculty do as well, would have to wonder if the signs are not just there to cover them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 btw way you misspelled sensationalism:p. You're messin' with the bull son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 You gotta love the English class one.:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 You gotta love the English class one.:D English is banned from core curriculum Oh yeah, that's happening all over America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrow32 Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 True pretty much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 You're messin' with the bull son. LOL. Sorry bud, could not resist:rolleyes:. Not too often anyone catches your typos or misspelled words, felt privileged to catch the opportunity:p. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddyboman Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 LOL--well, some truth to all that, but a lot of it is intended to make us laugh I think. Yup I agree :) and some of them where funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 LOL. Sorry bud, could not resist:rolleyes:. Not too often anyone catches your typos or misspelled words, felt privileged to catch the opportunity:p. OK Mr. "Writtens." Just be aware I only point out typos when someone hacks on me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 OK Mr. "Writtens." Just be aware I only point out typos when someone hacks on me. LOL:D. If I did not know that you know that I was just messing with you, you know I would not point them out:rolleyes:. Saw another typo of yours just a while ago, not going to say where though:p:D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkoholic Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Tominator, it sure must be more lenient in Ohio than it is here in the back woods of Montana. Here you can not have a firearm on any school property and the parking lots are periodically patrolled with drug and explosive sniffing dogs. I am aware of several children expelled from school for possession of firearms that were left in their vehicles after a weekend deer hunt. There have also been students suspended for having an aspirin or acetaminophen in their possession. How about the the kindergartner who this past year was suspended and the police called in just because he drew a picture of someone holding a gun. Teachers have been sued and have lost their jobs for trying to discipline a miss-behaving student. Sensationalism? Maybe, but these things are happening. The current state of affairs may well be a product of sensationalism. I will not even get into the education that the students around here are getting. Not only do the average new high school grads seem to be unable to write, do arithmetic, or even communicate, but they seem to lack the ability to think on their own. Very frustrating to be an employer these days. Guess I will get off my soapbox now. I think I am just getting old and cranky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Yeah, you guys spend tons of time in the public school system everyday, right? I dare say you are buying into the media sesationalism. I bring my shotgun to work on occasion, and my bow is in my truck for most of bow season too. I know for a fact many of my students do the same thing. Like I said SOME of the original post is true, but A LOT of that is media hype and sensationalism. i can't speak for orlan, but i can surely speak for me. i'm not buying into the media sensationalism at all. i think our problem does not lie in kids having guns in school, as i did. it comes in the lack of god in school, the lack of parental contorl, the moral situation of the kids, the lack of punishment for offenders in most crimes, the improper "guidance" of our news media, and lots more. i also think that if you were a teacher in wyoming, you'd better not tell anyone you have a shotgun in your vehicle. no guns on campus, no excuses. i want to say very clearly that things in this country were MUCH, MUCH better in 1957, when we started school with the pledge of allegiance and a prayer. thank you very little, liberals of america. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdoc Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 lol--that's funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 LOL--you guys are old and funny. Life really isn't all that bad is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetucker Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 you no what got me.It was the ridalin one.I think that is part of the prob make the hyper active one think he's crasy and then tell him he's suicidel and watch thenext school shooting.WOW that thread really makes you think but it is imho RIGHT!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 times change...it's whether we except the change and move on, or whether we long for the old days and live in the past that determines our mindset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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