elkoholic Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I was just checking out the Cabelas shooting and reloading catalog and an item/picture on the back page of the Bushnell range finder with ARC caught my attention. Showing a distance from a tree stand to intended target as 32 yards line of sight and just 23 yards base of tree to target makes you think that ARC is an important thing to have. Well, maybe. That is if you place your tree stand 22+ yards above the ground. I think that very few hunters (any?) get 60+ feet up in a tree. If you were 30 feet up the difference in distance is approximately 1&1/2 yards and at 20 feet up it is more like 2 feet. Why not be a little more realistic, and truthful, about just how big an advantage this gimmick isn't. Hmmmm...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardwood_HD Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 you have a good point, i dont even own a rangefinder and im getting along fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubie Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I get by fine without one so-far. However, if I were to buy one, I might as well have some version of ARC on it. Maybe not just for tree stands, but whenever your dealing with steep hills, or mountian terrain....Especialy with archery on the stalk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oo_buck Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Dude, I like to hang my stands a minimum of 75' above ground..... The rest of you guys are slackers........ J/K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DU_man_84 Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 you have a good point, i dont even own a rangefinder and im getting along fine ditto, i have a lot of buddys that have rangefinders, and they are all like you gotta have one, and i just tell them ive been hunting to many years without one and ive got along just fine so im prolly not gonna get one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 c'mon.... you expected HONESTY in advertising??? lol that would be a first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonLester Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Dude, I like to hang my stands a minimum of 75' above ground..... The rest of you guys are slackers........ J/K Why the heck would anyone hunt that low. I mean the deer could see you move or draw your bow. :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oo_buck Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Why the heck would anyone hunt that low. I mean the deer could see you move or draw your bow. :rolleyes: I'd go higher, but my nose starts bleeding..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhine16 Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I own a rangefinder, but mainly because i hardly ever hunt the same tree twice. As far as what you were saying about how much it changes, if your target was 35 yards from tree base and you were 21 feet up, line of sight would be 35.6931 yards . In other words, you are right about it not changing much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Good post Dave. Based on what you posted, had often kind of wondered about how about how much if any more effective for hunters these arc rangefinders could be over a regular rangefinder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubie Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Depends on your hunting. If your sitting in the same tree, with known distances, you realy don't need one. If your hunting hills, making long range shots with a rifle, well, it could realy come in handy. I think I've even seen a Leopold modle that you can program your balistics into, and it will tell you how much hold over you need.... I've gotten by just fine without them before. Then again, I've gotten by just fine without scopes before. Or all the new camoflage patterns. Or all the cover scents on the market. Or rattling sticks. Or lighted fiber optic sight pins...All things that help out a little, but you don't realy desparetly need... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 The thing is, even with a riffle the difference would have to be huge like shooting of a cliff or up one. It might be necessary if very mountainous areas, but not really anywhere else. Example: If I was shooting at 300 yards with a 150' incline my line of sight would be 300 yards, but the actual horizontal distance would be 4.1 yards shorter. With a 300' incline the difference would just be 16.22 yards shorter. I just can't see justifying another $100+ for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubie Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Well, I've never actualy did the trig (failed that in highschool), but it sounds like a good idea...Not that I have any plans to actualy buy a range finder (I figure I'm good enough at guessing that it hasn't caused me problems yet). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtV22 Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I have the Leupold RX-III with the TBR have never seen much difference in yardage when bowhunting.But went Elk hunting in Wyoming with rifle and did not have a rangefinder at the time. I think it was the difference between having a freezer full of meat or tag soup for me.When you hunt a different area judging yardage becomes more difficult.Any advantage I can get I take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1olhunter Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Great post, I did the math for 21 feet (7 yards) elevation and the difference at 30 yards is .83 yards (2.49 feet). I don't know a situation in bowhunting where the ARC would make a real difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Example: If I was shooting at 300 yards with a 150' incline my line of sight would be 300 yards, but the actual horizontal distance would be 4.1 yards shorter. With a 300' incline the difference would just be 16.22 yards shorter. Good example John...however, your line of sight doesn't take into consideration of gravity. Your bullet does...how many folks know exactly where there bullet will hit at 283 yards? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Well, I know my gun is about 6" low at 300, so if I'm shooting a deer sized animal I don't worry about those 16 yards and aim 6" high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fl deputy Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Which model rangefinder has the tractor beam attachment that holds the deer in place til I can shoot it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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