Texan_Til_I_Die Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 I always thought this was a moot point, but while watching the election returns last night with a close friend who is also a staunch conservative, this very interesting point came up. The president is Commander In Chief of the Armed Forces, but current regulations forbid women from serving in front line combat units. If women are excluded from combat, why are they qualified to command? And I do realize that we've had presidents with no service in combat units or even no military service at all, but they were not excluded from it by law. It was either a choice they made or perhaps just from random chance. My friend's point was that until women can and do serve in combat units, they should not be allowed to become Commander In Chief. Your thoughts? And no knee jerk reactions. Give it some consideration before answering. (I'll have more input later, along with an interesting fact) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 That is a good question Mike. In short, as much as I do not like Hillary, based on the criteria your buddy is using I would have to say no that they should not be ruled out. Will try to come up with a better explanation why I think that way and post a little later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Missilelock Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 One problem i can concieve with a woman president would be trying to implement foreign policy in the arab world. I can only imagine how some of those arab countrys would react to an ultimatum of any sort y a female president of the USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted March 6, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 I'm surprised that there hasn't been more discussion generated from this. Just an FYI - My very conservative friend who originated this thought just happens to be a 40 year old female. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 6, 2008 Report Share Posted March 6, 2008 OK Mike, I will expand my reasoning a bit and try to make the best sense I can behind my thoughts. The idea that a woman is not in front line or in combat being reason to discount them from being able to hold the highest office in this nation is not good reasoning due to the fact that we do have women who serve where there are risks and do get put in harms way each and every day. While they may not fight on front lines in combat, women are very much part of our military in positions from medics on choppers to driving in convoys that can and do see the potential for hostile action, so really your buddy in my opinion off base with his rationale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobucks Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Heard a question on the radio the other day - How would the leaders in countries, that do not allow their women to speak or show their faces in public, deal with a female leader from another country? I personally have no problem with a woman becoming president, just not this woman becoming president..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ohbowhntr Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Heard a question on the radio the other day - How would the leaders in countries, that do not allow their women to speak or show their faces in public, deal with a female leader from another country? I personally have no problem with a woman becoming president, just not this woman becoming president..... My fellow Buckeye, I couldn't have said it any better!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 Heard a question on the radio the other day - How would the leaders in countries, that do not allow their women to speak or show their faces in public, deal with a female leader from another country? I personally have no problem with a woman becoming president, just not this woman becoming president..... how would the ladies do it? the very same way condi rice is doing it right now. the same way margaret thatcher did it. the same way goulda maier did it. the same way... you get the point. i won't let a stupid MUSLIM law rule the way i vote for an AMERICAN president.. in fact, i do not want to do ANYTHING that may appease a muslim! that said, hillary is not getting a thing from me anyway. now, if condi ran.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobucks Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 how would the ladies do it? the very same way condi rice is doing it right now. the same way margaret thatcher did it. the same way goulda maier did it. the same way... you get the point. i won't let a stupid MUSLIM law rule the way i vote for an AMERICAN president.. in fact, i do not want to do ANYTHING that may appease a muslim! that said, hillary is not getting a thing from me anyway. now, if condi ran.... Yep, I agree 100% Steve. Just passing on what I heard on a nationally syndicated talk show last week or so. See the last line I posted in my reply above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted March 7, 2008 Report Share Posted March 7, 2008 First off, Women as leaders is not a Biblical concept, unless there is a man that can not adequately fill that position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJL Posted March 8, 2008 Report Share Posted March 8, 2008 First off, Women as leaders is not a Biblical concept, unless there is a man that can not adequately fill that position. Slavery, on the other hand, IS a Biblical concept. I'm not trying to slam you here Oneida. I'm just trying to make the point, that while being Christian myself, i have noticed a huge difference between Biblical Law and 21st. century Societal Beliefs. Sometimes the intermingling of the two can lead one onto very thin ice. The vast majority of us in this country are Believers. However, the founding fathers ( a fine group of Christians) allowed for the seperation of Church and State for a reason. As far as the original question goes........... Tom Landry, Bill Walsh, Knute Rockne, John Wooden, Pat Riley, Dean Smith, Bob Knight, Joe Torre, Tommy Lasorda................ Great Players.........no.........Great Leaders.........YES. Should one have played in order to lead? No. Can it potentially make one a better leader? Yes. But, there's alot of Great Players who would make Terrible Leaders. A certain Arizona Senators name comes to mind here. We cannot even find ONE candidate who would make a good President. Putting more restrictions on the requirements would only make it that much more difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlriggins Posted March 10, 2008 Report Share Posted March 10, 2008 I think a woman could make a great pres. I dont think Hillary is that person and as for the front line combat debate let women serve, a bullet is a bullet regardless of who pulls the trigger and I personally don't care what the Arabs, the Chinese,the Russians or anyone else thinks so long as the country can be set on the right track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeStandBowHunter Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Ask and you shall receive No!...and I can't tell you why because it will cause an uproar in here. There are just some positions out there that women should not be in and poitics is one of them along with a hundred other ones. You asked;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted March 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 No!...and I can't tell you why because it will cause an uproar in here. There are just some positions out there that women should not be in and poitics is one of them along with a hundred other ones. You asked;) And I appreciate the candid response. (not that I would expect anything else from you! ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3whunt Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 No!...and I can't tell you why because it will cause an uproar in here. There are just some positions out there that women should not be in and poitics is one of them along with a hundred other ones. You asked;) I'll second that notion... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kid Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 yes i think we should have a women president Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelund79 Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Being a soldier that was in a front line unit during the invasion of Iraq, (3/7 Cavalry, 3ID) we were the so called tip of the spear for 3ID. My commander was a female. One of the finest commanders that I have served under (10 years Army), and she was one heck of a helo pilot. She lived like how we lived, down and dirty in the sand. While I can't really say in public how I feel about the current candidates, I see nothing wrong with a female commander in cheif, just not the one that is a candidate now is all I am going to say. Just a reminder, not all front line units are Infantry, Cavalry combines air and land, land has male cammanders while the air side can have either....Out Front, SGT Eric E. Winter, Scouts Out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Margaret Thatcher was pretty good at her job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Finn Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Sure, a woman can be president.....but please, not this woman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Sure, a woman can be president.....but please, not this woman ditto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted March 16, 2008 Report Share Posted March 16, 2008 Sure, a woman can be president.....but please, not this woman yep. that's the real point:o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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