Giraffe Hunting?

[nativetexan]

Where can I find a place in the United States to kill a Giraffe or a Lion? According to a mini-interview with Wayne Pacelle in the Philadelphia Enquirer Parade Magazine, there are "over 1000 places in the U.S. where someone can kill an exotic animal such as a giraffe or lion at point blank range."

This was his response to a question posed about animal treatment and what the HSUS is doing to stop "canned hunts." Now, i'm the type of guy who likes to be well informed before I open my mouth (or pick up a pen). I read often just about every hunting magazine on the market, and have been actively researching my own personal hunt of a lifetime, so the classifieds in the backs of these magazines are a regular read also. I know that there are many exotic game ranches in the U.S., and that many of them are so large that the typical animal would not leave its "range" according to species. So someone please tell me where I can hunt a giraffe in the U.S. and shoot it at point blank range, because I sure as heck can't find one, and if there is one, then it is nowhere near the amount of operations that Mr. Pacelle claims.

Honestly, I don't understand how people can live with themselves lying to the public, and taking their money also.

[johnf]

They're on those black market 50,000 acre high fence ranches hidden in the back hills of Rhode Island.

[Hardwood_HD]

if it came down to it i spose you could hunt them at the zoo

[JJL]

The sad part is that there are tens of thousands of idiots out there who heard those words and believed them. The guillability of America will be its downfall.

[stevebeilgard]

just more anti hunting garbage. it's not true, but that little fact means little to the readers....

[texastrophies]

NEVER and I repeat NEVER let the truth get in the way of a good story. :rolleyes:

[wtnhunt]

The sad part is that there are tens of thousands of idiots out there who heard those words and believed them. The guillability of America will be its downfall.

Isn't that the truth. Shame there are so many people out there who are clueless and weak minded enough to believe this type of nonsense.

[Jeramie]

The sad part is that there are tens of thousands of idiots out there who heard those words and believed them. The guillability of America will be its downfall.

If I had a dollar for every oz of truth in that statement....

I have close friends and family that believe 90% of what they see on TV. It just boggles my mind.

[RangerClay]

Troy Gentry proved how easy it is to kill a zoo bear. I would assume it is that easy to get a lion. I think a giraffe would be more difficult to find.

[jbeck]

This web site says raising Giraffe's in a fence or farm is prohibited. So if this is true, I'd say you might have trouble finding a place to take one. I guess more people should google this stuff

http://www.gotpetsonline.com/giraffe/giraffe-photo/giraffe-population.html

Jeff

[cinch314]

When I was down in Mountain Home TX for my exotic hunt, the owner told me that it was legal in Texas to hunt anything, giraffe, lions, elephants, tigers, etc. Just do a search for Texas Exotic hunts and see what ya come up with. Im sure the price tag is gonna be really high though.

[Texan_Til_I_Die]

When I was down in Mountain Home TX for my exotic hunt, the owner told me that it was legal in Texas to hunt anything, giraffe, lions, elephants, tigers, etc. Just do a search for Texas Exotic hunts and see what ya come up with. Im sure the price tag is gonna be really high though.

Totally false and a good way to end up in jail.

It is unlawful to kill or attempt to injure, or to facilitate the killing of "a dangerous wild animal that is: (A) in captivity in this state; or (B) released from captivity in this state for the purpose of being killed." Id. at §62.102(1)(A-B) and §62.103(1).

A "dangerous wild animal" means a lion, tiger, leopard, cheetah, hyena, bear, elephant, wolf, or rhinoceros and includes any species, subspecies, or hybrid of any of those animals." Id. at §62.101(2). The term "captivity," as used in this part, means "the state of being held under control or kept caged or penned."

Additionally there may be international laws restricting the hunting of animals that are on a threatened or endangered list.

[cinch314]

Good thing I was only hunting Blackbucks then lol. Thanks Texan!

[cinch314]

http://tswf.com/asgs/African_Safaris_PriceList.cfm

Maybe this is what the owner was talking about when he told me. If offers all the game that I listed about from a guide service in Texas but ya fly to Africa.

[muggs]

The term "captivity," as used in this part, means "the state of being held under control or kept caged or penned."

There's some room for interpretation there. I wonder if they would consider a 5,000 acre high fence operation as caging or penning the wildlife found inside?

[Texan_Til_I_Die]

No, they wouldn't consider a 5000 acre high fenced ranch as caged, but you better not have any lions, tigers, etc running around loose in there either. There's a separate law against owning or releasing dangerous animals that has nothing to do with "hunting" or killing one.

Bottom line is that there is nowhere in Texas where you can legally go and kill a lion, tiger, hyena or whatever.

You CAN legally hunt animals classified as exotics. Here's the legal definition:

EXOTIC ANIMALS AND FOWL

Exotic animal refers to grass-eating or plant-eating, single-hoofed or cloven-hoofed mammals that are not indigenous or native to Texas and are known as ungulates, including animals from the deer and antelope families that landowners have introduced into this state. Includes, but is not limited to feral hog, Aoudad sheep, Axis deer, Elk, Sika deer, Fallow deer, Blackbuck antelope, Nilgai antelope, and Russian boar.

Exotic fowl refers to any avian species that is not indigenous to this state, including ratites (emu, ostrich, rhea, cassowary, etc.). There are no state bag or possession limits or closed seasons on exotic animals or fowl on private property. It is against the law to:

• Hunt an exotic without a valid hunting license.
  
• Hunt an exotic on a public road or right-of-way.
  
• Hunt an exotic without the landowner's permission.
  
• Possess an exotic or the carcass of an exotic without the owner's consent.

[nativetexan]

As I suspected. Nowhere in the United States can you hunt a lion or a giraffe. You can however go giraffe hunting in Africa, which of course falls under all the same wild game/conservation rules as any other animal in Africa. I would imagine that would cost a pretty penny to go Giraffe hunting, and I am in no way against it. Same goes with a lion.

So once again, Wayne Pacelle and the HSUS have shown just how uneducated they are, and how much they spread their lies to the public to get their way. I am so glad I am on the side of the truth, and can sleep at night knowing that this life we lead is reality and what we were placed here to do. My conscience is clear...

[Leo]

Yep it's an ignorant lie.

If Pacelle was ever forced to publish what HSUS actually spends from annual donations on their supposed agenda versus what they spend on themselves their supporters would abandon them. The math of what goes into to the organization versus what they spend on what they say they are trying to do doesn't add up.

But they continue to survive because of their:

H-onestly S-tupid U-nsuspecting S-upporters

They thrive on misinformation leading folks to believe they have something to do with the local shelters. THEY ABSOLUTELY HAVE NO AFFILIATION WITH LOCAL SHELTERS.

What's one more lie???

They don't care about anything but themselves.