wtnhunt Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 Been trying to buy at least one new rifle or gun pretty well every year, usually around my birthday, which is coming up in June. Kind of kicking myself for not taking advantage back around Christmas of the deal on a model 700 7 mm mag wal mart had for $300 that also got the remington rebate. Considering either a .30-06 or a .308, probably in a model 700 with either a laminated wood stock or possibly a cdl, really like the model 700 cdl sf. The .270 has been plenty enough gun to kill many whitetails here in the backyard over the years, the new gun is just to be an addition possibly for a future out west hunt someday, still dreaming of a mule deer hunt, elk someday would be sweet too. Not ruling out a 7 mm mag or the 300 win mag. Recoil is not really an issue with me, since any of these rifle rounds from my understanding will produce significantly lighter recoil than a 12 gauge with turkey loads. Load availability and ammo price are considerations since I do not reload. The .308 is offered in a vls model 700 with a nice laminated stock. With looking at the cdl sf, it is offered in .30-06 and 7mm mag and a couple other chamberings that really do not interest me. Knowing my own limitations it is not likely that I would ever be taking shots over 350 yards on any live targets. Which caliber would you chose with the given information and why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNTINGMAN Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 I bought a Remington 700 in 300 Rem Ultra Mag a about sevin years ago and loved it,it had enough power to take down anything I would be hunting and the recoil was not very bad.I bought it to take to colorado on an elk hunt and did not kill anything,brought it home and deer hunted with it for 2 years before realizing it was just to much gun for the thickets and big woods that I have to hunt so I sold it.One day I will buy another one,for now I wish I had never sold it because it was a sweet shooter and is one fun gun to shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddyboman Posted March 12, 2008 Report Share Posted March 12, 2008 model 700 the new gun is just to be an addition possibly for a future out west hunt someday, still dreaming of a mule deer hunt, elk someday would be sweet too. 300 win mag. I would take that......for the very reason if/when you go out west you will have a gun......you already have a 270 for deer with so why get a 06 or 308 IMO they are on the low end for elk...YES I know they will but if your gonna go out west with the big game then take the big dog. With the 300 and you can go out west and shoot deer around home. That my .02. Good luck in your decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierbuck Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 I have always thought that a good rounded big-game battery would be a .270 (check) and the .338 Win. Mag. I have a .338 that is my go-to gun for big critters. It is a great caliber for elk, moose, bears...basically anything on the continent that you wouldn't necessarily want to use a .270 on. 7MM=.284 Nice long-range deer gun, but not my style for the big critters. The .300 is in between, kind of the perfect balance if you were just going to hunt everything with one gun, but you aren't. You already have a great deer gun in the .270, I say step it up and go big, cover the upper end of the spectrum with confidence and carry a .338. HB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tped Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 300 would be my choice based on you having a 270 already. Teh 7mm is just too close. 338 would be another nice option. Both over widely available factory ammo just about anywhere ammo is sold which is a plus for hunting away from home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bear_Down Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 I prefer the 300 ultra, If you hand load it can match and exceed the 338 mag. or be down loaded for deer. My second choice 30 cal would go to the 308 norma mag. a 125 grain at 3400 ft/sec for deer and 200 grain at 3100 ft/sec. It is very close to the 300 mag. Not the ultra that's the cadillac . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Looking at ballistic tables the 300 win mag and 300 wsm are pretty comparable, the cdl sf is offered in a 300 wsm, but not in a 300 win mag. The 300 wsm does not look to have as many options in factory loads though. Really leaning towards a cdl sf, which is not offered in the 300 win mag, but is offered in the 300 wsm, also available in the 30-06. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Ballisticly speaking...your not gaining much from the .270 to step up to a .30-06. I use a .300 wm for deer and took an elk with it. Outta the options you asked...I'd go with the .300 wm. Your sorta in a pickle if you have your heart set on that particular gun, bc your right about options in .300 wsm loads. What about the 700 sps stainless? Its offered in 7mm rum, .300 wm, .300 rum and the .300 wsm and a few hundred less dollars! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 What about the 700 sps stainless? Its offered in 7mm rum, .300 wm, .300 rum and the .300 wsm and a few hundred less dollars! I looked at those in the remington catalog and that is a consideration, however I kind of have my mind set on a gun with either a nice wood stock or a laminate wood stock. Guess another option I might consider is the sps and upgrading the stock, dont know. Not ruling anything out at this point, have a little time to make up my mind. Ballistically speaking the gain in energy in the 300-400 yard range from the 300 win mag to the .30-06 is around 400 ft lbs of energy in like rounds, and from the highest energy round remington loads for a .270 to the same round I am comparing between the 300 win mag and .30-06 is about 400 ft lbs less than the .30-06 and 700 ft lbs less than the 300 win mag. So the .30-06 is basically in between the .270 and the .30-06 in energies at the ranges that would be my maximum comfortable shooting distances. Looks like the .300 win mag ammo is just a little bit cheaper than the 300 wsm ammo too. Probably going to go to bass pro this weekend, will probably look at and handle as many rifles as I can to get a good feel for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Take a look at a Tikka! I have one in the 308 and it is a great gun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Food for thought - Have you ever wanted a really nice, high end rifle or maybe a semi-custom? If you don't really "need" a new rifle for some specific reason, why not skip a couple of years and save up for that dream gun? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted March 13, 2008 Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 I think I've talked myself into this one in the 270WSM with a BOSS. It's a Browning A-bolt M-1000 Eclipse. http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail.asp?value=001B&cat_id=035&type_id=007 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2008 Food for thought - Have you ever wanted a really nice, high end rifle or maybe a semi-custom? If you don't really "need" a new rifle for some specific reason, why not skip a couple of years and save up for that dream gun? Yep, sure have wanted nice guns Mike, and there are a few on my list to get if I can ever find them. Bought a rock river varmint model AR 15 last year for myself for my birthday, that is the closest to a custom gun I have owned so far. You are right though, I do not really need a new gun right now, but I do want a new one:p, and prefer to add at least one new rifle a year as long as I can afford to and as long as we are able to, which I am afraid might change in the not so far off future. The cdl(classic deluxe) sf is a pretty nice gun in my opinion, one I would be proud to add to my collection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aksheephuntress Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 ............How about this?? I'd love to get one of these for my birthday! ....Nice caliber for elk,in the future...something more and different than your .270, like you mentioned... ...and good availability of ammo/ reasonable cost,too. http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/FAProdView?model=7112&return=Y ...and I think it's beautiful! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kid Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 300 ultra mag would be my choice,, i absolutly love mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 Think right now, these two are what I am looking closest at. The browning has nicer looking wood, but like the model 700 trigger and safety better. Caliber choice still not sure, but something in a .30 cal. Model 700 cdl stainless fluted Browning A bolt white gold medallion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted March 14, 2008 Report Share Posted March 14, 2008 The white gold medallion is a purdy gun for sure...its also a little more $ than the Rem. But outta those two guns, I'd personally go with the Browning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 The white gold medallion is a purdy gun for sure...its also a little more $ than the Rem. But outta those two guns, I'd personally go with the Browning. Ill say! I like that rifle!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 The white gold medallion is a purdy gun for sure...its also a little more $ than the Rem. Checking the msrp prices, there is about a $120 difference between the two. Really not a huge difference, I know I can order the cdl sf through dicks, their price is about $180 off the msrp, have not yet checked on the browning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodshed Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 I like the Browning better too. I want one some day as well. But,, you know the standard answer even you have told people. Get the one that fits you the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodshed Posted March 15, 2008 Report Share Posted March 15, 2008 ohh. Does the A-Bolt come in a satin finish? I remember looking at them in the past and they all had a glossy finish. I'm not a fan of the gloss finish. It's harder to repair and or shows more marks. I just like the feel and look of satin oil finishes. If I can get it that way, I will do that for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 But,, you know the standard answer even you have told people. Get the one that fits you the best. Have been hunting with a model 700 for several years, my first choice in rifles is the 700, but the browning is nice too. Have shot the A-bolt many times, my daughter hunts with an A-bolt. Unfortunately Bass Pro had neither gun in stock when we were there Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tped Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Those are both great looking guns - particularly the Browning. Personally I have never been able to figure out the stainless wood thing. Stainless is the way to go for weatherproofing, hunting in bad weather, extreme changes such as hot to cold, etc, etc and wood just defeats the purpose of the stainless that the synthetic or laminated stocks have the advantage for. That Browning looks so good though that I'd never take it to the woods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted April 28, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2008 Those are both great looking guns - particularly the Browning. Personally I have never been able to figure out the stainless wood thing. Stainless is the way to go for weatherproofing, hunting in bad weather, extreme changes such as hot to cold, etc, etc and wood just defeats the purpose of the stainless that the synthetic or laminated stocks have the advantage for. That Browning looks so good though that I'd never take it to the woods. Looked at a couple rifles yesterday at gander mountain, and the white gold medallion was one of them. I think I kind of had my mind set on that rifle, but now after seeing it first hand I think I am more undecided as that is one gun that I would likely never take to the woods. It is beautiful, but it is pretty shiny. The cdl sf is still a consideration too, and I shouldered a remington model 700 mountain lss while I was there too, and liked the feel and looks of that rifle. Kind of wish I could get one of each, but that is not an option right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coles Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 Looking at ballistic tables the 300 win mag and 300 wsm are pretty comparable, the cdl sf is offered in a 300 wsm, but not in a 300 win mag. The 300 wsm does not look to have as many options in factory loads though. Really leaning towards a cdl sf, which is not offered in the 300 win mag, but is offered in the 300 wsm, also available in the 30-06. i have found alot of factory loads for my 300wsm up here. i shoot the federal premium 180gr. accubonds out of mine. i have to admit they are spendy though. up towards $50 a box now. but i can get any thing from the remington and federal powershocks for about $18 a box, to federal fusions in the 30s and federal premiums. Just depends on the quality of bullet you want to shoot and the money you want to spend. i shot 3 different loads out of mine. i shot the 180gr powershocks, 165gr. fusions, and the accubonds and of course it shot the accubonds the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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