davetucker Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Well got a question for you all!!I thought awhile back maybe a couple months ago there was thread about spike horn buks!!I thought it was said once a spike always a spike!!I was in an argument with a guy this weekend about it!!I hope i was right!!So could someone please elaborate on this subject!!Thanks for the input! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SRAII Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 it's a proven fact that once a spike always a spike is NOT true......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Finn Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 it's a proven fact that once a spike always a spike is NOT true......... exactly.....I've never seen a mature spike! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddyboman Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 do a search in the deer hunting room and I bet you find a bunch of threads on this topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NS whitetail Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 it's a proven fact that once a spike always a spike is NOT true......... what he said anyone who thinks differently, sure does not know much about whitetail deer :rolleyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetucker Posted March 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 well thats what i thought to because wheb the antler first starts it don't start with ten points!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ckcranch Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 It is not true that all spikes will always be spikes. There are some spikes that will grow up to have nice racks, but there are some spikes that will never have much of a rack because they have bad genetics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 Been several threads on this here in the past. Here is one http://www.realtree.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65885&highlight=spike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetucker Posted March 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 thanks william did a search and that was the thread i was talking about!!I lost it when it was first started!!I guess i was in a hurry to always get to the field!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardwood_HD Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 yep seen this topic quite a bit.. i have to agree with everyone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockwave Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 well thats what i thought to because wheb the antler first starts it don't start with ten points!! thats not exactly a proven fact.I feel if a buck has the right genetics and the proper nutrition, it`s very possible for his first rack to be something other than a spike.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted March 17, 2008 Report Share Posted March 17, 2008 I've seen a spike that was at least 4.5 years old, but that's just one deer in 10 years of hunting. If that were true there would be A LOT more big bodied spikes. Most I've seen are yearlings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dihardhunter Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 If you can dredge up Dr. James Kroll's study in Texas, been published in several different installments in North American Whitetails - there are the facts. Seems to me it was published between 12-18 months ago. Good stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 If you can dredge up Dr. James Kroll's study in Texas, been published in several different installments in North American Whitetails - there are the facts. Seems to me it was published between 12-18 months ago. Good stuff Kroll showed the life of some spikes through sheds in one segment and watched them progress into trophy caliber deer. Very interesting stuff. We do not see too many spikes here, but typically the ones we do see are young or small 1.5 year olds. More common at 1.5 year olds we see deer at least with forks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetucker Posted March 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 New at this so thats why there is twolinks but there the same pic!! Anyways this is the reason for the thread!!The guy i was arguing with thought this deer would have never forked!!Sorry for the bad pic didn't have camera in field was only going to be a quik hunt!!This the wifes first deer so she didn't pass it up as i might have.Here in maine you can't be to picky if you want meat for the winter!!If you look hard enough in back of HER left shoulder there is a field up in the hill behind her!!Well that a 300 acre soil bank farm with alot of food and water!!But that is were this deer came from!! The fork hidden in her hand wasn't any bigger they were both the same size!!But the one in her hand was broken off!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Hard to say from that pic how old that deer was Dave, but looking at the face he looks to me to be older than a 1.5 year old. May be bad genetics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 I have never heard the once a spike always a spike saying and i've been deer hunting for over 20 years. I'm surprised to hear that it's that common. I've shot a few spikes in my day, and they were all 1.5 years old. Congratulations to your wife harvesting her first deer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PA_Spike_King Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 I have killed many spike's in my hunting carrear and for years thats all I saw so if it was legal it was meat in the freazer. I'm not a trophy hunter so it don't matter to me. Now in PA I'm not permited to shoot them and I haven't seen many but thats the way it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ate1cropy Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 spike My cousin Dropped a mature deer one year only to walk up to it and find 14 inch spikes. We guessed the deer to be around 3 1/2 years old or older. In the article by Dr. Kroll it said something about deer start showing their potential at age 3. I hunt northern Minnesota and for a deer that age with only spikes I gotta say dont think he was going to be much more than a spike. I know that once a spike always a spike IS'NT true but I have to say i'm glad that deer got taken out of the gene pool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Anyone who thinks "Once a spike , always a spike" doesn't know much about deer at all. Every buck out there, started out as a spike buck. A spike buck is simple a young buck (1.5 years old). There have been rare instances though where a buck with bad genetics will remain a spike, but grow up with real nice long spikes. I shot one once, but it rare. I "think" that old saying came from Europe, but they were referring to Roe deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckbuster11 Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 Every buck out there, started out as a spike buck. Well now buckee, I don't think that is true. There are plenty of 1.5 year olds running around that are forkhorns or small basket racks. As for the original question, I've always wondered where the "once a spike, always a spike" line came from. As already mentioned, anybody who thinks that does not know a whole lot about deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShaneB Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Dude your right once a spike always a spike isnt true...they have to start somewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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