BamaTrophyHunter Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Like a lot of folks in this state, I have a job. I work, they pay me. I Pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In Order to get that paycheck, I am required to pass a random urine test With which I have no problem. What I do have a problem with is the Distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test. Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I Have to pass one to earn it for them? Please understand, I have no Problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do, on the other Hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting on their BUTT , doing drugs, while I work. . . . Can you imagine how much money the state Would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance Check?Something has to change in this Country -- and soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNTINGMAN Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 I agree,they should have to pass a drug test. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambuscher Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 You have a very good point there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 yep. they sure should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowtech_archer07 Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Good point there. People who abuse the system should not receive the benefits. It is definitely very sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aksheephuntress Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 .......Yep, I totally agree!-never heard of the idea-but it makes perfect sense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinch314 Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 Absolutely agree!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig mack Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 I agree. They should have to take the whiz quiz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamoGuy Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 That is actually a very good idea. If they required random drug test I bet there would be a lot of people off of the program real quick. However, I have issue with people being required to pass a drug test for jobs that don't require operation of equipment or dealing with hazardous materials, etc. Hear me out. WalMart makes all new employees get a drug test before they hire them yet 95% of WalMart employees just run a register, clean the store or stock shelves. Then WalMart passes the cost of these mandatory drug tests along to our government as business expense tax write-offs. No big deal you say? WalMart employs around 1.5 million people, multiply that by say $50 per urine test, that is a $75 million dollar write-off!!! That number is actually more than that considering WalMart's high turn-over rate. When I was a department manager for WalMart we had a 138% turn-over rate which means on a yearly basis we hired 138 people to keep 100 positions filled. So arguably, WalMart hires over 1 million people per year. Now factor in all of the other retail businesses that require drug test for non-risk jobs and imagine the billions of dollars that those tax write-offs add up to........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DU_man_84 Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 very good point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeygirl Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Good point.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Let me pose these unsettling questions. What employer will hire someone who was kicked off Welfare for illegal drug use? What do you think these folks who can't get jobs or money for their habit are going to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambuscher Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 I'd say that they need to straighten up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kid Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 I agree exactly, I do construction in the summer, you know its a dangerous job but it pays for my schooling, i would say only about 4 people out of 10 could pass the test. i don't understand why we don't have random drug test. Sometimes i think about it and it scars me because some of the time these guys light it up on there lunch break and after break they have my life in there hands. its really scay if you think about it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaTrophyHunter Posted March 21, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 I'd say that they need to straighten up. exactly there is no reason for them to fail the drug test if they werent doing something they werent supposed to be doing in the first place, i understand some people get put into bad situations like that and i am sorry for them but they need to be smart enough to know to stay away from all that stuff because it will ruin your life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisha Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Has the original post of this thread been copied from somewhere? Only reason I ask is because it is exactly the same, word for word, to an article that someone had wrote in our local newspaper in the "our readers write" section. Just curious! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Blade Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Oh yeah,,,I agree with this completely and iam sure that anyone who works for a living agrees too:D.........Dont get me wrong I know that some people getting assistance from the goverment really needs it,,,,,,,But on the other hand alot of lazy people milk it and use taxpayers money to support their habit........I dont like getting up and going to work just to give part of my paycheck to someone to buy drugs with:mad:.........Make them fill the cup:eek:........... :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyman Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 One other point on mandatory testing for new hires in most places. Most Insurance Companies demand it, especially workman's compensation insurance. Like so many other aspects of every day life, insurance companies run the world. As far as mandatory testing for welfare recipients goes, i personally have no problem with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotman Posted March 21, 2008 Report Share Posted March 21, 2008 Like a lot of folks in this state, I have a job. I work, they pay me. I Pay my taxes and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In Order to get that paycheck, I am required to pass a random urine test With which I have no problem. What I do have a problem with is the Distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test. Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I Have to pass one to earn it for them? Please understand, I have no Problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do, on the other Hand, have a problem with helping someone sitting on their BUTT , doing drugs, while I work. . . . Can you imagine how much money the state Would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance Check?Something has to change in this Country -- and soon! I don't agree. Federal employees represent the american people and they should be held to a higher standard. Because we the taxpayers hired you for a program to help people in need. Not to make assumptions that majority of people on welfare are drug addicts and sitting on their butt. That is the job of the case worker to make sure just this is not taking place. Not even considering the amount of wasted money us taxpayers would have to fork out for $100.00 drug test fee's for each person on welfare. I personally never collected welfare. Sorry for being harsh but thats how I feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 Has the original post of this thread been copied from somewhere? Only reason I ask is because it is exactly the same, word for word, to an article that someone had wrote in our local newspaper in the "our readers write" section. Just curious! i don't know, and it doesn't matter to me:o:). it's a good post, and i'd love to see it done. we'd cut our welfare folks down 90%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Blade Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 I don't agree. Federal employees represent the american people and they should be held to a higher standard. Because we the taxpayers hired you for a program to help people in need. Not to make assumptions that majority of people on welfare are drug addicts and sitting on their butt. That is the job of the case worker to make sure just this is not taking place. Not even considering the amount of wasted money us taxpayers would have to fork out for $100.00 drug test fee's for each person on welfare. I personally never collected welfare. Sorry for being harsh but thats how I feel. We all dont have to agree.........Iam sure alot of money we would spend on drug tests wouldnt be wasted,,,We would most likely break even once the frauds got cut off and would save money in the long run,,,Yep frauds,,If they are buying drugs with the money they receive then they dont really need it..........Oh and another thing I almost forgot,,I think people on SSI,,crazy check whatever you want to call it should be tested also not just the people on welfare.......... :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotman Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 I don't believe it would stevebeilgard. Reason why? Drug tests are fallible and easily fooled. I mean do you really think that the druggie will do everything in his power to stay on the drugs? I do and those tests can be easily fooled into thinking someone is clean. So I truly think it would be a waste of taxpayers money. I don't think the solution is as easily fixable as we might like to think. Back in my college we used to go the halfway houses and the drug abusers and alcoholics shared their stories on what lengths they would go to get a fix. They shared there stories not only to expose to us the evil of drugs and alcohol. But to build a strong base on which they personally could push up out of that lifestyle through God. I believe it is our duty as Christians as a whole not deny these people but to help them. Then maybe we can truly come to the root of the problem. Take that money for drug tests and build halfway houses and reachouts. I think as a world we lack compassion that same compassion God had for us when he sent his only son to die on the cross for our sins. I'm not pointing fingers at no one I just find it hard to throw a stone at someone that I don't even know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowJoe Posted March 22, 2008 Report Share Posted March 22, 2008 ...Oh and another thing I almost forgot,,I think people on SSI,,crazy check whatever you want to call it should be tested also not just the people on welfare.......... :D I don't think your little classification quite fits your little smug remark. I know of people that deserve the "Crazy Check" as you put it and they have a heck of a lot more character and consideration. Some people actually need it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeWalker Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 BTH, it is such an excellent point that I am contemplating having a bill introduced this coming ND legislative session, just to see what kind of attention it gets..... And I am sorry, but as a Christian man, I have compassion for those that try, but I am also of the flesh, so I tend to not feel too sorry for those that abuse the system.......and ND is chocked full of abusers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaTrophyHunter Posted March 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 yea i am the same way, i do feel sorry for people that really do need the money however they are alot of people that dont really need it that get it. I know a man now that gets it that shouldnt but there isn't much we can do unless we just post it were people can see it and maybe it will the right ones attention Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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