scotman Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 I just think if what you all say is correct that the majority of people collecting welfare and ssi checks are druggies low lifes. Then your gonna have one huge mess on your hands with all the new homeless children on the street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sskybnd Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 i feel the same way it would realy cut the welfair out, and my thoughts about it i dont care if you are not in a job that isnt hazardous or not, so you do a joint or what ever you might be doing you are still going to get in your car and go home or where you might go, and i dont think i would want to run into a high indivadual, they didnt make drugs illegale for nothing.but to me its just like this the goverment arbitrated liquor, than made it leagle, so i amagine if the goverment could tax it, they would make it leagle, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaTrophyHunter Posted March 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 I just think if what you all say is correct that the majority of people collecting welfare and ssi checks are druggies low lifes. Then your gonna have one huge mess on your hands with all the new homeless children on the street. I'm not sayin all the people are this way just some of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nut Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 To fund this ideal they should take away all tax breaks from the companies that outsource jobs outside the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoyt03 Posted March 23, 2008 Report Share Posted March 23, 2008 great idea, but think about how much more it would cost us to pay for these drug tests. The medical folks are the biggest crooks of them all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Blade Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 I don't think your little classification quite fits your little smug remark. I know of people that deserve the "Crazy Check" as you put it and they have a heck of a lot more character and consideration. Some people actually need it. Pay attention,,,We are not talking about the people that really need it,,,,We are talking about the people that abuse it:rolleyes:.....I know people on SSI that go to the doctor and fake how sick they are just to get a prescription for pain medication which cost them something like $1 to get it filled and then sell it,,,I know of a few ladies on SSI that were chubby so they put on more weight just so they could get bypass surgery to lose weight,,Why:confused: Because they was to lazy to lose the weight and the 30 thousand dollar surgery was free for them,,,We the taxpayers paid for it......I also know of people who have perfectly healthy young children and take them from doctor to doctor hoping to find something wrong with them so they can sign them up.......It makes me sick to see those type of people that abuse the system that have never worked a day in their life,,,,,,,Again,,,,,IAM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY NEED IT!!!!............ :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotman Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Their will always be individuals that find loopholes to use and then abuse our system meant for the ones with legitimate hardships. Many of us are in agreement that it is morally wrong and it is unacceptable. That is why those abusers do go to jail if they are caught. I took that words you used "crazy check whatever you want to call it" as being smug too 4Blade..though I don't think you meant it that way. It just does not give SSI any credit by calling it crazy. Remember we are talking about some citizens only source of income here and we are discussing whether they should all be drug tested if they collect this check. Which is another factor as well not only will you test the ones that are abusing but you will be testing legitimate citizens and infringing on their right to privacy. Tell me if a somone walks down the street and shoots a man is the gun responsible or is the 'someone' responsible? I'm sure we would all agree the one holding the gun is responsible. But there are crazy people out there that would say it was the gun! So how far do we have to go in 'policing' our society before all our rights are taken away? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 Their will always be individuals that find loopholes to use and then abuse our system meant for the ones with legitimate hardships. Many of us are in agreement that it is morally wrong and it is unacceptable. That is why those abusers do go to jail if they are caught. Exactly! Pre-employment drug tests don't completely prevent drug users from getting jobs. They still get employed. The truth is the majority of drug users in this country are employed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4Blade Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 Their will always be individuals that find loopholes to use and then abuse our system meant for the ones with legitimate hardships. Many of us are in agreement that it is morally wrong and it is unacceptable. That is why those abusers do go to jail if they are caught. I took that words you used "crazy check whatever you want to call it" as being smug too 4Blade..though I don't think you meant it that way. It just does not give SSI any credit by calling it crazy. Remember we are talking about some citizens only source of income here and we are discussing whether they should all be drug tested if they collect this check. Which is another factor as well not only will you test the ones that are abusing but you will be testing legitimate citizens and infringing on their right to privacy. Tell me if a somone walks down the street and shoots a man is the gun responsible or is the 'someone' responsible? I'm sure we would all agree the one holding the gun is responsible. But there are crazy people out there that would say it was the gun! So how far do we have to go in 'policing' our society before all our rights are taken away? I could agree with that somewhat,,,,,But I do think it is way to easy for people to abuse the system.......If anything instead of drug testing "all" of the people why not drug test so many at random every so often:confused:............. :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotman Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 I agree 4blade it is a problem. One problem on top of another that the america is facing. Truly trying times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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