Guest overundergun Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 I have tried the crow call and the hawk scream and neither seem to make turkey gobble. Do these call really work ? I guess they might sometimes but so far they seem useless. Is there a precise time to use them or is there a better way to locate birds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccwhitey Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 If it wasn't for locater calls I wouldn't have half of the birds that I have now. Last year I call for my little bro during Illinois's youth season in southern Illinois on public ground. We knew that there were turkeys close because we heard them gobble once so we set up. Not once during the whole time did they answer any of my calls, but every 5-6 min or so I would use my crow call and they would gobble to it and not me. It took them a half hour to come in and the only way we knew where they were at was by locating them with the crow call. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest overundergun Posted May 3, 2008 Report Share Posted May 3, 2008 great info Thanks again for the great info. No luck today but tommorow I'll be using the crow and turkey calls to try and locate something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 Sometimes blowing the crow call hard doesn't cause a shock gobble because the birds have been so bombarded with loud crow caws they are immune to it. Sometimes just doing a "Ta-Ta" on the crow call makes the difference. This is the noise crows make at each other when they are just relaxing flying together. Just say "Ta-Ta" into the crow call. It's not real loud but I've gotten shock gobbles from a "Ta-Ta" right after in the same position loud bursts of "Caws" produced nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest overundergun Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 Thanks Leo . Here there are tons of crows . Like you say I suppose they can get imunne to the loud crow calls. Thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem308 Posted May 4, 2008 Report Share Posted May 4, 2008 I don't know if you have a lot of owls in your area, but a hoot owl call really works well for us. Sometimes though, it seems that nothing can shock them into gobbling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest overundergun Posted May 5, 2008 Report Share Posted May 5, 2008 Thanks for the info . There is a lot of crows in the area. Actually a lot of birds woopeckers are busy too but nothing seem's to make them gobble. Except maybee the owl call wich I do not have at the moment. Even had a flock of geese in a nearby pond. They even made the turkey's gobble.lol mmmm maybee a geese call would do the job?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bachflock Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 That's a good point. I just started hunting turkey last year and bought a crow and an owl call. My brother likewise and picked up a red tail hawk call. Not a one of them could get the birds to gobble. However, every time a goose flew over they'd sound off. GO figure. This year I took a goose call with me and it worked. Thinkin' outside the box! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 Thanks for the info . There is a lot of crows in the area. Actually a lot of birds woopeckers are busy too but nothing seem's to make them gobble. Except maybee the owl call wich I do not have at the moment. Even had a flock of geese in a nearby pond. They even made the turkey's gobble.lol mmmm maybee a geese call would do the job?? A duck call and a goose call can absolutely be GREAT locator calls in the right areas. You are thinking right. TV and magazine rules DO NOT apply. Listen to what your local birds like and react to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie234 Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 someone told me to try a dog training whistle? Anyone else hear of that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PA_RIDGE_RUNNER Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 All good info just do not use a predator call like a coyote yip. It will get them to gobble but they may not be callable from that location. Again as Leo and Bachflock said think outside the box. Now lets see I have had birds gobble at thunder, train horns, truck backup beepers, door slams, geese, helicopters and most likely a host of other things I did not identify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest overundergun Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 It's nice to see that my idea wasn't as stupid as I thought . Thanks Leo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeygirl Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 I get them to answer sometimes to a crow or owl pre-season, but when season starts, forget it! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 I get them to answer sometimes to a crow or owl pre-season, but when season starts, forget it! lol The point is TG. They get USED to some noises. Once that happens "Shock" gobbles stop as a response to that particular noise. I've hunted plenty of areas loaded with crows, you can blow your lungs out on a crow call and get no response, in these places. A different but "natural" noise is the best bet when that happens. Unnatural but loud noises like a "dog-whistle" will elicit shock gobbles. But honestly, I've found, shock gobbles in general put the birds on alert and unnatural noises do so even more. Birds that have been "shocked" into gobbling by myself have always been much harder to call in. If you don't need to get the shock gobble to know where the bird is then DON'T. This has always been the best policy for me. You can still successfully kill that bird after a shock gobble response but I've noticed it's ALWAYS harder (sometimes impossible). Your sweetest and best hen imitation doesn't make them want to run head long into danger. I'm not a big fan of getting "shock" gobbles for this reason. Finding a roosted bird is different. After a night on the roost they typically calm down. But a "shocked" mid day bird is IMHO extremely wary and obstinate! My two-cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bachflock Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Now lets see I have had birds gobble at thunder, train horns, truck backup beepers, door slams, geese, helicopters and most likely a host of other things I did not identify. Let's add sirens to that list. Spring '07 a house burned about 3 miles from where we were hunting and fire trucks sprinted back and forth for a solid 45 minutes sirens blasting. I'd be willing to bet the gobblers were nearly hoarse by the time they had the fire knocked down! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccwhitey Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Let's add sirens to that list. Spring '07 a house burned about 3 miles from where we were hunting and fire trucks sprinted back and forth for a solid 45 minutes sirens blasting. I'd be willing to bet the gobblers were nearly hoarse by the time they had the fire knocked down! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PA_RIDGE_RUNNER Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 Yep sirens will set turkeys off. Last year in Kansas an emergency vehicle went by and the turkeys lit up, the dogs howled and the coyotes howled. This went on long after I could hear the siren any more. Talk about an animal symphony. I would not recommend toting a siren along as a locator call though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bachflock Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 I would not recommend toting a siren along as a locator call though. LOL! Very true... just because they gobble at it doesn't mean they like it! Heck - last year I had gobblers gobbler after I pulled the trigger and their buddy was doing the floppy dance. They had no interest in finding out what was making that noice, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobblerroller Posted May 7, 2008 Report Share Posted May 7, 2008 I use the Primos Power Crow. It's really efective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest overundergun Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 It's fun to read our old posts . Thanks again for all the goo info and reply's . Now I'm starting to get the fever again ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdrianJHare Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 I carry more locators with me then I do turkey calls. Not all locators will make any one bird gobble. Having a few different ones including different toned crow calls can strike a gobble at anytime. Coyote calls do not scare Gobblers, I have killed lots of gobblers that I have located by the yote howler. I have used 2-3 or even more different sound locators at a time just to get a gobbler to give away his roosting location. If you want to see proof of this, get a copy of the dvd "Learning the ropes of Wild Turkey Hunting" it is there in video footage. Locators work not only for a roosting, but also they work throughout the day as one may change setups and want to know where the bird is at the time of the move if he can not see the bird in question. Every time a gobbler answers a locator he is not directed to the call as he would be with a turkey call you hunt with. Playing your birds with hen calls only allow you to have that bird move in and catch you off guard and add presure to him and allow him to ignor hen calling and wait for the call (hen) to come to him. Locators are a very good idea in this type of hunting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomer Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 I hunt a very hard hitted public ground once in awhile. You can blow a crow, owl or yote call all you want. They dont gobble on those mainly everybody is blowing those all day long there. So I took the goose call one day. Got one to gobble to it and a hour later I was going home with a gobbler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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