Ethan Givan Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 Should I go with fixed blade broadheads (muzzy's) or with mechanicals. Im asking because I have heard that mechanicals do not get good penetration but I have trouble with fixed blade heads not flying right. My draw weight is 65#. Is this enough for mechanicals to pass through a deer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted May 8, 2008 Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 What weight head you shooting. For 125s I like the Rocket Stricknines For 100s the Rocket Sidewinder is a good one. 65lbs is plenty to shoot deer with an expandable. Some fixed blades just won't shoot well with certain setups. If you decide to stick with fixed try some different ones. The G5 Montec is a good flyer for lots of folks and the G5 Striker flies great too (and scary SHARP!) But setup does make a difference. Fletchings changes can turn rotten shooting broadheads into stars. Blazers really seem to shine there. Good luck. Hope that helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Givan Posted May 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2008 I shoot muzzy 125s. They dont fly the same as my field tips and Im tired of having to re-sightin my bow for BHs or FTs. I have a Martin Saber, with a Whisker Biscuit and I shoot Goldtip Expedition Hunter 5575 arrows. I have thought about trying expandables, helical vanes, blazers, or other fixed blade heads. I dont really know what to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 I shoot muzzy 125s. They dont fly the same as my field tips and Im tired of having to re-sightin my bow for BHs or FTs. I have a Martin Saber, with a Whisker Biscuit and I shoot Goldtip Expedition Hunter 5575 arrows. I have thought about trying expandables, helical vanes, blazers, or other fixed blade heads. I dont really know what to do. Helically fletched Blazers are great for just about any point flight. Blazers are actually quite good for whisker biscuits because they are a tough fletching. Of course tuning the bow is a prime concern. The Martin Saber has plenty of oomph at 65# to work with the rocket stricknines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tdm69 Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 The best way to tune a fixed blade if you want to stay with them is to paper tune it with no fletching. After you get it perfect that way then shoot the same set up with fletching to make sure it is going to fly right with them, as leo said some set ups just won't fly right. Sometimes using a different spined arrow will fix the problem, but it's trial and error, and usually over spining is the way you would go. Using gold tips doesn't allow you to index them either. Mechanical broadheads will fly like your field point and I know people who shoot 50lbs with mechanicals and don't have a problem. If you hit a deer ribs in/ribs, I've seen 40lb bows pass through and stick in the dirt. And I would stick with Blazer vains also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robinhood Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 i shoot a mathew FX with a rage broadhead and field point on, killed two doe wit them this year and done a good jooob... shootin them again this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 OK, here's my experience with mechanicals: 1st deer with a Spitfire, (or Splitfires as Ohiobucks calls them). Shot in the shoulder, head opened up, cut through the shoulder blade, cut the top of the heart, nearly severed the windpipe, 9" of penetration, dead deer within 20 seconds, deer traveled about 40 yards. This year, 2 deer with the Rage 2 blade. First deer, a small fawn, shot quartering away, head entered right ribcage, exited left leg snapping the leg bone in two and passing through, dead deer within 20 seconds, deer traveled about 30 yards. 2nd deer mature doe shot broadside, arrow penetrated approx. 20", deer traveled approx 100 yards. Pretty impressed with the Rage and will continue to use it until it lets me down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildthing Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 depends on the broadheads...some are made better than others. I have only personally used Muzzy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobucks Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Pretty impressed with the Rage and will continue to use it until it lets me down. +1 The 3 deer I shot last year with the Rage 2 blade broadheads all died within sight. Forget the Splitfires, though. JMO.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 As long as your bow is in tune, you shouldn't have much trouble getting fixed blades to fly right. Helical vanes are really helpful, and make when you screw in your broadheads, the blades are lining up with your vanes. I shoot 3-blade, 100-grain muzzy's and they fly just like my field points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 I shoot 3-blade, 100-grain muzzy's and they fly just like my field points. Same here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 Shot placement is the key. Fixed or mechanical will provide pleanty of whitetail penetration at 65 lbs. I shoot Rockey Mountain Gators (mechanical-2" diameter). Last year I shot an 11-pointer at 30 yards about 6 inches farther back than I would have liked. The arrow went all the way through. I waited till the next morning and found the deer 150 yards away. I shot a doe (straight down) the Gator severed the spine in two, continued through the vitals. The tip was almost sticking out of the skin underneath the deer. The deer fell straight down and expired within a minute or two. I like the Gator because it shoots like my 100 grain field point and has a 2 inch diameter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted May 9, 2008 Report Share Posted May 9, 2008 I shoot Thunderhead 100g. They fly just the same as a field tip for me. i can shoot a field tip then a broadhead and be right one. You could consider those if you decide not to go with fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michiganbowhunter_SQ2 Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Muzzys are a head that have been around for a long time. I started out with them, and from time to time I'll throw em on a few arrows and shoot em. you may need to tune your bow to get the right on with field tips, or, sometimes it just happens that a certain fixed blade won't fly right with a certain set-up...I'd give re-tuning a try first though before getting rid of the Muzzy's. If you decide the go with mechanicals, the rage 2 blades are a nice one, so are the grim reapers. and make when you screw in your broadheads, the blades are lining up with your vanes. This doesn't make a difference IMO. Some people do it, some don't. Just personal preference IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamphunter Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 I have heard that mechanicals do not get good penetration I get excellent penetration with my mechanicals Rocky Mountain SP3's...I get more pass throughs than I don't get, my last being a 275lb black bear. Arrow left lying on the ground where the bear was. Deer...same thing, pass through after pass through. If you try mechanicals, use the rearward opening ones for the best performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatetomiss Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 the mecanicals i use are the rage i havent had any trouble with pass through and i shoot 60lbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Givan Posted May 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 thanks for all the replies everyone. I think I will paper tune my bow, then try some helical vanes, probably blazers. If my muzzys dont shoot well after that, then I will try some new heads, mechanicals most likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig mack Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 thanks for all the replies everyone. I think I will paper tune my bow, then try some helical vanes, probably blazers. If my muzzys dont shoot well after that, then I will try some new heads, mechanicals most likely. If your bow is paper tuned and the Muzzys still dont fly right its probably your choice of arrow that is the problem. I had the same problem and I went to my pro shop for help. The owner had my shoot a bunch of different arrows through my set up to see what would fly right. I ended up shooting a little longer of an arrow. Arrow spine is key. Also I'm with Sq2 on the lineing up your vanes with your blades theory. I know alot of guys who do that but I dont think it matters. I read an article by Chuck Adams that said the same thing. Good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kid Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 try montecs,,they are a fixed three blade that shoot just like a field tip,, you can resharpen them too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Finn Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 thanks for all the replies everyone. I think I will paper tune my bow, then try some helical vanes, probably blazers. If my muzzys dont shoot well after that, then I will try some new heads, mechanicals most likely. I'd recommend dropping down to 100 grain 3 blade Muzzys and then look at Rage 2 blades Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bowhunter56 Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 I like the G5, stryker in 100Gr. best fixed blade that flies true for me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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