birdhunter39 Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 i'm going to do a lot more waterfowl hunting this year , and the two gauges i'm looking at are the 12 gauge with 3-3.5 inch shells , and the 10 gauge with 3.5 inch shell , the shell velocity for the 12 are ranging from 1,260 - 1,550 and the 10 gauge velocity is a steady 1,450 .and the velocities are for waterfowl shot . i already have my guns for upland , small game , deer , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaCoyote Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 If you compare the payload of a 3 1/2" 12 ga. to a 3 1/2" 10 ga you'll see that there is no huge gain by going to 10. Also, the ammo selections arent even close. I inhereted my 10er from my pop and it just sits in the safe. I don't see any real benefit to it when you consider the weight, choke selections, and ammo selections. I use it once in a while but not often. 10ers hve quite following but since the advent of 3 1/2" 12 gauges I think they are over rated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkeygirl Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 I don't think you can go wrong with a Mossberg/Remington/Browning 12 ga. I shoot a Mossberg 20 ga though...it puts a hurting on deer. I'm getting a rifled barrel though so those deer are really going to have to watch out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelund79 Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 Shootin the Mossberg 935 for waterfowl....Great gun for the money IMO. Shoots 3" and 3.5" for under $400, and since its a dedicated watergun, I didn't see the need for the most expensive...Its the shooter most of the time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted May 15, 2008 Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 If you compare the payload of a 3 1/2" 12 ga. to a 3 1/2" 10 ga you'll see that there is no huge gain by going to 10. Also, the ammo selections arent even close. I inhereted my 10er from my pop and it just sits in the safe. I don't see any real benefit to it when you consider the weight, choke selections, and ammo selections. I use it once in a while but not often. 10ers hve quite following but since the advent of 3 1/2" 12 gauges I think they are over rated. Personally I would stick with the 12 gauge. Due to weight and price of ammo. The newer 12's are lighter, and the ammo doesn't cost nearly as much! Sure you might get a faster load, but it doesn't pay. I would never buy a 10 gauge in this lifetime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdhunter39 Posted May 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 I'm very fond of the mossberg , for that reason i own two , a 12 and a 20 ga , I'm just in the market of buying myself a shotgun strictly for waterfowl , and the 935 mossberg is at the top of my list . but i wanted to keep my options open . so far everyone has mentioned the 12 ga . thank yous for your input . so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 Opinions vary. Here's what I've seen with my own two eyes while owning and hunting with both 3 1/2" 12's and 10's.............. You can compare the numbers and figures on paper all day. In the field, the 10 will out-perform the 12 with steel shot. I've seen it over and over. The 10 is more expensive to shoot.........but not much. The 10 may or may not have more recoil. Gun weight and action type are the variables. The 10 also is capeable of out-performing the 12 with lead loads (for turkey). The 10 may or may not be for you. If you're looking for a dedicated waterfowler and you plan to use it a lot.......buy a 10 and never look back. If you're going to be in the blind a few times a year, you may want to stick with the long 12. If that's the case, I'd strongly suggest you steer wide of the Mossbergs and look into a quality gun like a Super X2, Super X3 or Browning Gold. You do get what you pay for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaCoyote Posted May 16, 2008 Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 I'd strongly suggest you steer wide of the Mossbergs and look into a quality gun like a Super X2, Super X3 or Browning Gold. You do get what you pay for. I agree totally. Browning silver is worth a look too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdhunter39 Posted May 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2008 i did look at two brownings. i believe they were called bps , thats what the sticker on the barrel read , they were the 12 and the 10 ga , price was around $ 700 .00 each , if i remember correctly , i did love the feel of both of them , i also looked at a few other shotguns . the waterfowling I'll be doing the most of is mainly pass shooting or hiding amongst weeds or tree's , but i do intend to go to a few waterfowl hunt clubs , and be in the pits and blinds as well . also i don't know anyone who personally owns a 10 ga , so all this information is being a great help on my next shotgun purchase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaCoyote Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 $700 sounds steep for a BPS. I could be wrong but it sounds high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdhunter39 Posted May 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 here is the browning 10 ga i was looking at , this shotgun is straight from the manufactor Click here to learn more about, Mossy Oak. BPS 10 Ga., Mossy Oak® Duck Blind™ BPS 10 Ga., Mossy Oak® Duck Blind™ :'>Enlarge Image Info & News New Firearms :'> Description: Receiver - Forged and machined steel Barrel - Ventilated rib Action - Bottom ejection · Dual steel action bars · 31/2" chamber · Top-tang safety Stock - Composite stock and forearm ·:void(0)'> Mossy Oak® camo finishes with Dura-Touch® Armor Coating · Matte black on Stalker Magazine Capacity - Four in the magazine plus one in the chamber Features - Three Standard Invector™ choke tubes [ Interactive Tour of the BPS' Fe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdhunter39 Posted May 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 here are the other gauges it has to offer , the 12 ga bps was from bass pro shops , these here are straight from the manufacture. BPS Hunter :'> Description: • Receiver - Forged and machined steel • Barrel - Ventilated rib • Action - Bottom ejection, Dual steel action bars, Top-tang safety • Stock - Satin finish walnut • Features - Three Invector-Plus™ choke tubes with 12 and 20, Standard Invector™ with 16, 28 and .410 [ Interactive Tour of the BPS' Features | these gauges here around $ 600.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 I would suggest that you shoot a BPS 10 ga. a little before you commit to buying one if you think you are the least little bit recoil-sensitive. Granted.....they are not as bad with steel shot as they are with lead. But a fixed-breech 10 ga. can be a vicious S.O.B. on the back end. I'm not trying to scare you out of one in any way. I've run multiple boxes of steel through mine between daybreak and lunch on many occasions and lived to tell about it. I've also had tahat gun kick my butt with lead loads............but good. I just want you to know what to possibly expect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaCoyote Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 You can also buy one in the "stalker" line it's got the matt black finish with black composite stock. I've got a hunter in 12 ga 3", A stalker in 12 ga 3 1/2", and the 10er which is a hunter but it looks like they don't offer the hunter in 10 anymore. I think the BPS is the best pump shotgun available. Those prices you listed sound like MSRP. It's always higher than what you'll actually pay. Also, they are giving $75.00 rebate right now on the BPS. The stalker is the most inexpensive line. If camo isn't a huge priority it'd be something to consider. I've smoked a lot of geese, ducks, coyotes, and turkeys with mine. They do punish with the magnum lead loads for sure but as we all know it's not quite so noticeable when you're shooting at game. For that matter what 3 1/2" doesnt? Nova's and Mossy's are horrendous compared to the BPS since they're so light. My 10 actually kicks less than my 12ga 3 1/2" due to the extra weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strut10 Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 My 10 is a Stalker. VERY rugged. VERY reliable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdhunter39 Posted May 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 recoil has never intimidated me in the least , so recoil is not a problem (even though i never shot the 10 gauge yet ) . my first shotgun was a 12 ga single shot that kicked horrible , even the guy's that hunted with me with experience said this , if someone breaks into your house give them the gun , they'll get hurt more then you . i think i might just buy both shotguns , I'll buy one each pay and experience both guns . thank you for your advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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