slughunter Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Planted a clover plot last week before we got all this rain. Hopefully it didnt get washed out. Im thinking a couple of those trees need to be taken down or trimmed a lot. -shane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdoc Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 nice little plot. keep us updated--I'll be intersted in seeing if you have any weed problems planting in the spring. Should make a nice little bow spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darron Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 dogdoc, I keep seeing you refer to weeds in the spring. Wouldn't you have weeds as well if you planted in the late summer (August)? Also, if you tilled the soil up right (using a tiller), wouldn't this kill some of the the weeds in your plot? I know when I tilled mine up, the tiller was churning soil 6" deep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdoc Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 dogdoc, I keep seeing you refer to weeds in the spring. Wouldn't you have weeds as well if you planted in the late summer (August)? Also, if you tilled the soil up right (using a tiller), wouldn't this kill some of the the weeds in your plot? I know when I tilled mine up, the tiller was churning soil 6" deep. sure you're killing the weeds that are alive now but you are covering/disturbing thousands of dormant seeds sitting on the surface just waiting to germinate. I'm just telling you what I have experience thru trial and error. Majority of your weeds and grasses are warm season plants. So when you till in the fall and plant, the weeds will still germinate but the cool temps that are around the corner prevent them from maturing and then they die at the first freeze before they have a chance to produce seeds. Does this kind of make sense? Also--perennials such as clover are SLOW maturing plants. They spend the first growing season developing roots for a long life and not much of above ground growth. So when planted in the late summer/early fall it gives them enough time to develop and root system and by spring they will be growing like crazy and can compete with any spring weeds. When planted in the spring they are too young to compete with those fast growing annual weeds and grasses. If you even want a more weed free plot--then disc your plot early summer and then one month later come in and nuke it with glyphosate. Then every two weeks spot spray anything that is green until planting. This will make one great plot. Here is a pic of a clover plot I planted 4 1/2 years ago. I purchased the land in September. Sprayed and planted two weeks later. It was planted the last week of September. I mow it around 3 times a year. I did have to hit it with Poast Plus on the 2nd year due to bermuda and fescue but other than that all weeds have been taken care of my mowing. todd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddyboman Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Looks like this could be a great bow plot!! Good luck sure you're killing the weeds that are alive now but you are covering/disturbing thousands of dormant seeds sitting on the surface just waiting to germinate. I'm just telling you what I have experience thru trial and error. Majority of your weeds and grasses are warm season plants. So when you till in the fall and plant, the weeds will still germinate but the cool temps that are around the corner prevent them from maturing and then they die at the first freeze before they have a chance to produce seeds. Does this kind of make sense? Also--perennials such as clover are SLOW maturing plants. They spend the first growing season developing roots for a long life and not much of above ground growth. So when planted in the late summer/early fall it gives them enough time to develop and root system and by spring they will be growing like crazy and can compete with any spring weeds. When planted in the spring they are too young to compete with those fast growing annual weeds and grasses. Yup have to agree with todd on this.... When discing you do kill most of the weeds that are up.....but you are also planting/germinating MANY MANY more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted June 9, 2008 Report Share Posted June 9, 2008 Nice little spot for a plot there Shane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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