high gas prices

[sskybnd]

im with you texan, maybe what the people up in washington are thinking, is we have alot of oil in this country, and by using it could lower the price alot but why do that, they might think one day not only will we be a super power but the world might have to depend on us for oil and what profit would we make than, my self i would give them a choice lower the cost or i'l let the other nations know that you will be alone should some one want to take your country over, and we will not try to stop them this time.

[nativetexan]

Ok. Let me take a stab at this.

So what you are saying is, is that Democrats are responsible for everything bad in America today? No. I said that the democrats blocked Bush from doing things that would have benefitted this country. Only the democrats (and their constituents) got what they wanted. Had the republicans got even some of what they wanted, it would have benefitted the nation, plain and simple. That's not an opinion either...

Lets not forget that Bush had a Republican congress for almost 6 years that basically gave him a free pass on just about anything. Explain those "free passes." How did they effect you? Near as I can tell, the only real people whining about anything of that nature in our government was, well, you know.

And the patriotic fervor that followed 9/11, well, any president would have rode that wave as far as it would take them. Nice. Guess that cheapens the office a bit. I like to think more came of 9/11 than just a publicity stunt.

Republicans are just as guilty of not wanting to work with the opposite and vice versa. Newt Gingrich and the Republican congress of the nineties did not work with Clinton True, but I see big differences in Bush and Clinton. The biggest being one is not a liar and a socialist.

Much like the Democratic congress of today does not want to work with Bush. Payback I guess.

Both sides are guilty of it, just as both sides are guilty of things that are not popular. Yes, they are. Sometimes the unpopular decision is the best. That is part of the problem. We'll just fix it by creating a new law, and throwing money at it.

Can you honestly say that you support and approve of every decision and vote that Republicans have made in your lifetime? No, I cannot say that. But they most fit my views. Historically, some democrats have shared my same views and voted the way I wish they would, but it all comes down to party and power in the house and senate.

I don't know why Americans continue to vote and elect people that are either strictly liberal or conservative, especially since the majority of voters consider themselves moderate. Any election study of voters you find will tell you that. What we need is a true moderate president who is willing to examine both sides of an issue and make a decision that would benefit the most Americans, not what some interest group pushes on them, or what a religious group forces on them. You're right. That would be a great thing. If people were not notoriously selfish. As far as voters are concerned, you can also research the voter turnout for other parties and that may give you some kind of intel to show that even though people want a moderate president, they will still vote their party. McCain is the most moderate person to come around in a long time. He has a proven track record of reaching across aisles to get things done. We can only vote and hope that he pulls it off. Either way, he will still face just as many challenges in office as Bush did. He still agrees with the war, he is against gay marriage, he wants to drill in the U.S. for oil, he won't bargain with terrorists, etc. etc. and so on. All of which dems are against, and are not shy about going on the warpath to protect THEIR interests. Pelosi, Reid, Clinton, Schumer, and a select few others won't budge on anything..period. Tell me exactly how any of that mentioned above as far as problems listed benefit the nation by doing completely the opposite?

The only way to move forward is to work together. Agreed, but you have to convince people like me that even some liberal beliefs are somehow beneficial to this nation. Since things work on a give and take basis, you can bet that if they agree with something the republicans propose that will benefit the nation, I can't rightly say that I would return the favor because I have seen little, if anything good come out of the democratic party. That is my own personal opinion...

To get this back on the gas price discussion, I think it is safe to say that one party is blocking our ability to free ourselves from foreign oil, and eventually lower (even just a bit) gas prices. I won't say it, and I won't even explain how their decision doesn't benefit this nation, but i'll leave it up to you to figure out.

[nativetexan]

So all of Bush's failures are because of Democrats? WOW!!!! That's funny right there, I dont care who you are. Like I said before its funny how everythings the dems fault and the republicans can do no wrong. I'm not even sticking up for the dems, all I'm saying is that Bush is one of the WORST Presidents in this nations history and I cant say thats the Democrats fault.

I don't believe that Bush is one of the worst. WOW!!! The democrats have set out to destroy this presidency from the get go. That doesn't just mean those that sit in our government. That means those that report on the president also, and with the help of special interest groups, we now have a president with his hands tied that is percieved by a nation as a failure because of creative use of the media. Which is b.s., and sends the message to the world that our government is ineffective and backs up claims made by our enemies, which emboldens their cause, which recruits more people that are against us. The democratic party has turned into a cancer in this country. That is my opinion, and I am glad you got a giggle from it. But really, I don't find anything funny about it.

[OJR]

Let's just say one thing! It is a direct result of ALL POLITICANS!

[craig mack]

Let's just say one thing! It is a direct result of ALL POLITICANS!

Thats the best post so far!!!:D:D

[Jeramie]

Let's just say one thing! It is a direct result of ALL POLITICANS!

Dont gorget lawyers.....

[stevebeilgard]

this republican/democrat thing is playing out RIGHT NOW! let's see who blocks progress. the president yesterday called for congress to open up drilling offshore. the dems are currently holding it up. so, we'll soon see just who wants to drill and who doesn't, and why. btw, 67% of americans want to drill (rasmussen poll).

what we do know is that we have more oil known in the u.s. than ALL of the persian gulf combined. we can talk politics all century long here, or we can wait a few days and SEE what our politicians do. i predict that the dems will NOT vote to drill anywhere at any time. simple as that.

[wtnhunt]

this republican/democrat thing is playing out RIGHT NOW! let's see who blocks progress. the president yesterday called for congress to open up drilling offshore. the dems are currently holding it up. so, we'll soon see just who wants to drill and who doesn't, and why. btw, 67% of americans want to drill (rasmussen poll).

what we do know is that we have more oil known in the u.s. than ALL of the persian gulf combined. we can talk politics all century long here, or we can wait a few days and SEE what our politicians do. i predict that the dems will NOT vote to drill anywhere at any time. simple as that.

ARGHHHHH.:mad:

Peterson from PA just got done speaking on his ammendment just a few minutes ago.

From what I am hearing on fox news they did not even allow for a vote. Democratic leadership already postponed the vote, that probably would have had enough support at this point in time, to lift the ban on offshore drilling.

[craig mack]

If they passed it how long do you think it would take for the drilling and the oil to drop gas prices? Would it happen immediatly or would it take a year or more?

[wtnhunt]

If they passed it how long do you think it would take for the drilling and the oil to drop gas prices? Would it happen immediatly or would it take a year or more?

Probably not immediate to see substantial drops, but less than a year in my opinion for it to be back to where it was a couple years ago.

[Texan_Til_I_Die]

If they passed it how long do you think it would take for the drilling and the oil to drop gas prices? Would it happen immediatly or would it take a year or more?

As soon as the markets are sure that the domestic production is about to increase dramatically, we'll start seeing a decline.

[stevebeilgard]

As soon as the markets are sure that the domestic production is about to increase dramatically, we'll start seeing a decline.

EXACTLY!!! now, if clinton had allowed anway to start 10 years ago, we'd today have all the oil flowing that we need. if we start now in anwar, we'll have that same oil in 5-6 years. nothing immediate, but a good start. too bad we didn't start 30 years ago....

[TreeStandBowHunter]

Thailand has pretty cheap gas. Our dollar is worth a lot more in Thai Baht. When I was there last month, it was only about 100 Baht for a liter of gas in Utapaou. With our exchange rate, we got roughly 140 Baht for our dollar. Therefore, that puts it around 3 dollars for a gallon of gas or maybe a little less than that. I think it is like 3.7 liters to a gallon or something like that anyway.

I know with my salary of just being in the Military, I am considered rich in Thailand. Some of you would be millionairs in Thailand. No wonder I seen so many Americans there:D

[NS whitetail]

one word sums it up :

GREED :mad::mad:

[ky_deerhunter_77]

one word sums it up :

GREED :mad::mad:

Who's greed?

It's more about POWER. my .02

[stevebeilgard]

one word sums it up :

GREED :mad::mad:

in america, the gas companies make an average of 6 cents profit on every gallon of gas. to bet that they risk drilling, huge investments, hire people, and at the end of the year DO make billions of dollars, 6 cents at a time.

meanwhile, the government makes 18 cents a gallon for doing absolutely nothing. and the same government folks complain about the "obscene profits" made by the oil companies. the canadian government is much worse:o. taxes to you are why we pay 75 cents a gallon LESS than you do for gas drilled and refined in canada. so, i hope your "greed" thing was directed at government.

[oldksnarc]

I agree - the government makes more off the oil than the oil companies do. But, on the other hand, that $0.18 pays for highway improvements. If the highways in your state aren't as good as those in Kansas then maybe the money is being mis-spent.

McCain does support off-shore drilling but not in the ANWR.

Yes, we have more oil than the middle east ever thought of having. However, the liberals will not vote for any new drilling (off-shore, ANWR, North Dakota or the shale-oil in the Rockies) because of the environmental issues and they are trying to force us to go Green. They want us to go Green to protect the environment over reducing the price per gallon. In fact, BHO has said he'd rather us continue paying highers prices per gallon to wean us from oil rather than to continue to using fossil fuel.

But, if we approve new drilling - which IMO will force the middle east oil prices down - it would still be good to continue using theirs (at reduced prices) and keep ours in reserve for the future. Done right we can accomplish both - reduce the price per barrel AND keep ours for us later on when we really need it. When theirs runs out we can hike our prices and show them what it felt like.

[Jeramie]

As soon as the markets are sure that the domestic production is about to increase dramatically, we'll start seeing a decline.

Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes, Yes.... Thats dead on the money.

Part of the pricing we pay right now is Futures. That can go both ways. Id give it just a few months and prices should start to fall to a noticable level.

[Texan_Til_I_Die]

...However, the liberals will not vote for any new drilling (off-shore, ANWR, North Dakota or the shale-oil in the Rockies) because of the environmental issues and they are trying to force us to go Green. They want us to go Green to protect the environment over reducing the price per gallon...

Well, that's what the liberals give lip service to. But in reality, many of them, especially the elites like George Soros, are just plain anti-American and anti-capitalist. They WANT to see the U.S. brought down to the level of a third world country. And they plan to do that by either scaring or shaming us into changing our lifestyles "voluntarily."

[NS whitetail]

in america, the gas companies make an average of 6 cents profit on every gallon of gas. to bet that they risk drilling, huge investments, hire people, and at the end of the year DO make billions of dollars, 6 cents at a time.

meanwhile, the government makes 18 cents a gallon for doing absolutely nothing. and the same government folks complain about the "obscene profits" made by the oil companies. the canadian government is much worse:o. taxes to you are why we pay 75 cents a gallon LESS than you do for gas drilled and refined in canada. so, i hope your "greed" thing was directed at government.

YES sir, sorry I should have been more clear.

The taxes that we pay on fuel is outrageous , our government has already stated that they will give no tax breaks. Our Premier of Nova Scotia was on the news one night and said " if people don't like the price of gas and high taxes, then they should start using the Public Transportation ( buses )" --- he's a Moron, and I'm not alone in that thought,

well, living here in rural NS, I've never seen a bus go by my house lol

Think about it this way : as long as people are still buying, why would the price drop ?

I do not see any solution to it, the prices will keep rising, people will keep buying ( cause you need it ) and the rich will get richer

[wtnhunt]

well, living here in rural NS, I've never seen a bus go by my house lol

Think about it this way : as long as people are still buying, why would the price drop ?

I do not see any solution to it, the prices will keep rising, people will keep buying ( cause you need it ) and the rich will get richer

Yeah, I hear you Lewis, no public transportation out here in the boonies either. The wife said she wanted a scooter, lol. Really not an option for a 13 mile commute to work here though.

Drilling here at home is a viable solution for us, however that might not bring the prices down worldwide. Would tend to think it would, but don't know. If indeed the arabs and others like Chavez are only limiting their production to hurt us as some suspect, would make sense that if we tap our own and become less dependant on them that they would be forced to have to rethink about doing such. Would certainly change some perspectives.

From what I heard this morning, day by day more and more are in favor of drilling here at home.

[Jeramie]

Well, that's what the liberals give lip service to. But in reality, many of them, especially the elites like George Soros, are just plain anti-American and anti-capitalist. They WANT to see the U.S. brought down to the level of a third world country. And they plan to do that by either scaring or shaming us into changing our lifestyles "voluntarily."

Ever hear of the Fabian (sp?) Society? The English sure have and many have been trying to probe that is the same effect many are trying to have on the US.

Take it one little chip at a time instead of breaking off a lot.

[Texan_Til_I_Die]

How about this to put things into the proper perspective...

If Alaska was a moose, ANWR would be the moose's tail. And the area of ANWR that would be opened for drilling would be the size of a flea on the moose's tail.

But can we disturb that flea sized spot? Oh no, not according o the enviro-wackos. That might upset a polar bear.

Well, you can't ride a polar bear to work.

[stevebeilgard]

here's another size comparison: imagine a football field. now, place a quarter on that field. that is how much land would be disturbed in anwar. 1/100 of 1%.

but, here's the real point. NO ONE GOES TO ANWAR. there are only a few thousand visitors each year, and they don't go into it because you can only walk in. no planes, no vehicles. horses or walking. no hunting, no chain saws, no motors of any type. imagine a park 8 times the size of yellowstone park, with that few visitors. and enough oil for a looooooong time. write to your senators and congresspeople.

[JJL]

Gasoline is $4.00/gal because crude oil is $140.00/barrel.

Crude oil prices are at record highs because people playing the markets are the one's making the OBSCENE profits. DO you actually think that gold - corn - soybeans and other commodities are at all-time highs because there is a shortage of these products? NO, it's because the traders in the pits could no longer make money trading Enron - Microsoft - Apple - and GM stocks so they switched over to the commodities markets and they're whoreing out the country for the sake of their pocket books by trading up oil futures.

It has ZERO to do with supply and demand.

Even if we can boost domestic production 1,000,000,000 barrels/day, that will just give them more to trade and it will have only a minor effect on the price of a gallon of gas. As long as the Idiots on the Mercantile Exchange are allowed to play "Monopoly" with the future of our country we're going to see high oil prices. Therein lies the problem.

Drilling offshore and in ANWR is a great step in America becoming more self sufficient in our energy needs, and should be done immediately. However it will have a very minor influence on the price of a gallon of gas.

The great socialist minds in this country longed for they day when we would become a more European Community. Well they got their wish. $5.00 gasoline.......$20.00 steaks.........Stupid little cars........... Over priced housing............ Bad movies. I sure hope we get to keep our deodorant.