See through scope rings quest.

[woodshed]

I bought some of these to use for the first time. What am I missing here? The view under the scope is very limited at best because the scope lense hangs down into the field of view through the rings. I can use the iron sights, but the top half of the picture is blocked by the scope.

[wtnhunt]

If your see throughs are not tall enough and you have a large objective scope, it may be too low. I have see throughs on a few of my rifles and on my ml. Can see my target well enough under the scope through the iron sights to still shoot accurately with the sights with no problems.

[woodshed]

This is on my Omega also. I can see through them to see a target also. It's just that the top of my sight is cut by 35%. I guess that is unavoidable.

[Leo]

You will not get the best accuracy your rifle is capable of with see through mounts. You should mount scopes as low as possible on a rifle and that will be lower than you can see through.

That's the truth.

If you really want the option of using your iron sights get quick release rings.

[hangunnr]

You will not get the best accuracy your rifle is capable of with see through mounts. You should mount scopes as low as possible on a rifle and that will be lower than you can see through.

That's the truth.

If you really want the option of using your iron sights get quick release rings.

+1

[Strut10]

You will not get the best accuracy your rifle is capable of with see through mounts. You should mount scopes as low as possible on a rifle and that will be lower than you can see through.

That's the truth.

If you really want the option of using your iron sights get quick release rings.

+2

[PA_RIDGE_RUNNER]

Personally I see no need to have a scope mounted on a rifle and still want to use the open sights. That may have been true when scopes were in their infancy and prone to fogging and breakage but that is almost unheard of these days. Besides to get a scope high enough to be able to use the open sights puts it too high to effectively use it.

[OJR]

I would never use that type of scope mounts and rings!

[bruse]

Change your mounts the see thru are nothing but trouble. When you shoulder your rifle you should be able to see through your scope without moving your head. With a good scope you will have no problem up close, in brush, or weather.

[wtnhunt]

You will not get the best accuracy your rifle is capable of with see through mounts. You should mount scopes as low as possible on a rifle and that will be lower than you can see through.

That's the truth.

If you really want the option of using your iron sights get quick release rings.

I can understand this Leo and am not questioning what you say in any way, but I do have an honest question here myself on this topic since you said what you did here. I have been hunting with the same model 700 in .270 for several years, never had any troubles with my accuracy or with hitting deer where I was aiming. The first scope I put on that rifle was a 44 mm objective scope, and I did use see through mounts, those were not the best quality mounts and it was not great glass, but the scope would not have cleared the factory sights on the barrel without the higher mount, the tube was just long enough that with the right eye relief it would not lay down without touching the sights, guess I could have removed the rear sight, never thought about it that time. When I upgraded scopes, I also upgraded to leupold see through rings and leupold bases, never thought about the 40mm scope clearing and to be honest I am comfortable and used to shooting with the scope where it is on that rifle as it is, but after looking it has plenty of clearance I could use a medium ring. Guess my question is, how much loss in accuracy would be expected with a difference of 1/4 to 3/8 of an inch higher mounts at different yardages, say all the way out to maybe 300?

[Leo]

I can understand this Leo and am not questioning what you say in any way, but I do have an honest question here myself on this topic since you said what you did here. I have been hunting with the same model 700 in .270 for several years, never had any troubles with my accuracy or with hitting deer where I was aiming. The first scope I put on that rifle was a 44 mm objective scope, and I did use see through mounts, those were not the best quality mounts and it was not great glass, but the scope would not have cleared the factory sights on the barrel without the higher mount, the tube was just long enough that with the right eye relief it would not lay down without touching the sights, guess I could have removed the rear sight, never thought about it that time. When I upgraded scopes, I also upgraded to leupold see through rings and leupold bases, never thought about the 40mm scope clearing and to be honest I am comfortable and used to shooting with the scope where it is on that rifle as it is, but after looking it has plenty of clearance I could use a medium ring. Guess my question is, how much loss in accuracy would be expected with a difference of 1/4 to 3/8 of an inch higher mounts at different yardages, say all the way out to maybe 300?

I can't give you a specific answer. Too many variables. And in a nutshell that's the problem. Too many variables.

Mounting the scope higher doesn't usually change how well the rifle shoots (unless it's a big scope that's torquing the receiver) but it does in general affect how well you can shoot it. Getting a consistent cheek weld, same place every time is a key point in shooting the gun as well as it can be shot. This is your "anchor point" and it is important. High mounts make this tough to do. With practice you can make it work and do ok. But, you will improve your consistency (less "fliers") if you drop the scope and concentrate on repeating your cheek weld exactly the same.

[wtnhunt]

Thanks for the answer Leo, that helps clarify my question for sure.

[johnf]

I had those on my Marlin 30-30 for a couple years. The biggest problem I had was the darn things coming loose every time I even looked at it funny. They are inherently unstable, there's just too much leverage with the scope up that high and they get knocked off really easily.

Save yourself some hassle, get a lower mount and forget about your iron sights.

[toddyboman]

You will not get the best accuracy your rifle is capable of with see through mounts. You should mount scopes as low as possible on a rifle and that will be lower than you can see through.

That's the truth.

yup....Thats what my dad always said.....Mount the scope as low as you possibly can without the scope touching the barrel.

[woodshed]

Great imfo. They are gone as soon as I get in from out of town. I already have the new ones that are low.