Natural blinds, Illegal in pa for turkeys.... WHY??? IM CONFUSED AT THIS FACT??


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hey guys, i was just wondering if any of you knew why natural blinds (even ground blinds) for turkey hunting are illegal. I know that they dont mask movement 100 % but it sure seems that they would help with our hunting. thanks, this really confuses me and i feel that it hinders my hunting capabilities, just have to rely on my good old advantage!:D

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Good question????

I also want to know why you can't hunt on Sunday's?? Also, your guns must be plugged, so that they can't hold more than 3 shots for what ever game you hunt??? During the black powder season, only "Fintlocks" can be used???? I think all the sportsman in PA better start complaining on all these stupid rules!! Get with the times PA!!!

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Man made blinds that cover you 360 degrees and over head are allowed. Not sure about natural blinds, read your digest.

As far as the three shot rule, after that third shot, the game usually is out of range any ways! There is a in-line season in October. The season after Xmas is 'PRIMITIVE WEAPON' only! Only flintlocks are allowed. But as far as Sunday hunting, I agree.

Here it is from the digest,

The use of turkey blinds is legal under the following definition:

Any artificial or manufactured turkey blind consisting of all man-made

materials of sufficient density to block the detection of movement within

the blind from an observer outside the blind. Artificial or manufactured

turkey blinds consisting of all man-made materials means blinds must be

constructed of plastic, nylon, canvas, cotton cloth, plywood or other manmade

materials. Blinds made by piling rocks, logs, branches, etc. are

unlawful. The blind must completely enclose the hunter on all four sides

and from above to block the detection of movement within the blind.

When fluorescent orange is required at a stationary calling location in

fall seasons, at least 100 square inches must be displayed outside the

blind and within 15 feet of the blind, visible 360 degrees.

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The natural blind rule is more to protect hunters from other hunters. I think the thought behind it is that if you are hiding behind a blind of constructed branches and some idiot hunter who shoots at movement doesnt recognize it's a natural blind and he sees some movement and/or colors behind it that could put somebody in danger.

Where as something like that is less likely to happen in a blind you pick up at Wal Mart that is clearly man made.

With that said it's a ridiculous rule. Case in point, this past year the PGC decides we can turkey hunt without having to display orange at all yet you can't hunt behind natural blinds???:confused::confused::confused:

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I believe another issue with the "natural" blind is that folks would be moving rocks, sticks, cutting limbs etc... on state land. That would just set off another issue with tree huggers and eviromentalist.

I know it was said about the blind not concealing you 100% and I believe that was their argument...but I also think the moving and cutting of the "natural" stuff was another issue. Prob. easier to throw a blanket rule out there instead of saying...you can't use natural blinds on state land...but you can on private?

We do have some screwed up laws!

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How about having to wear your license on your back. I thought it was rather universal till I hunted some other states. As I understand it PA and I believe Wisconsin are the only states that require the hunting license to be worn on the back.

New York has always had this rule in effect as well. Best part, is that nobody told the clothing industry for hunting clothes this point of fact. So most every single jacket or vest you buy these days, don't come with provisions for placing your hunting license on your back???? Don't think that I'll pin that license tag into a waterproof garment just to comply!!

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New York has always had this rule in effect as well. Best part, is that nobody told the clothing industry for hunting clothes this point of fact. So most every single jacket or vest you buy these days, don't come with provisions for placing your hunting license on your back???? Don't think that I'll pin that license tag into a waterproof garment just to comply!!

New york northern zone deer hunters do NOT have to wear back tags. But you better have it with you, or else.

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The natural blind rule is more to protect hunters from other hunters. I think the thought behind it is that if you are hiding behind a blind of constructed branches and some idiot hunter who shoots at movement doesnt recognize it's a natural blind and he sees some movement and/or colors behind it that could put somebody in danger.

Where as something like that is less likely to happen in a blind you pick up at Wal Mart that is clearly man made.

With that said it's a ridiculous rule. Case in point, this past year the PGC decides we can turkey hunt without having to display orange at all yet you can't hunt behind natural blinds???:confused::confused::confused:

Really is a shame that there are people out there who do not practice safe handling of firearms or do not value life enough to think before they do. If we all as hunters would follow the ten commandments of firearm safety there would be no reason for this type of thing. Accidents can be avoided, sadly this rule will likely not stop some of those same would be shooters from not first recognizing their targets prior to pulling the trigger.:(

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  • 4 weeks later...

As a former PA resident, kinda glad that I am out here in Iowa without those crazy rules. Kind a sounds like the PA Game Comm. is trying to be "big brother".

Questions: if you sit behind a log that is naturally there with some limbs, is that illegal? you are not 100% covered.

Last I accindently hit a COMPUTER BUTTON THAT IS MAKING MY TYPING LOOK FUNNY. WHICH KEY DO I "UNHIT" TO GET IT TO TYPE NORMAL.

good luck to all

the dog

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The PGC has just got some whacked out rules.

You can hunt deer and everything else out of a natural blind.

You can also hunt turkeys in the fall legally with a .460 Weatherby Magnum........but not #2 shot in a shotgun. You can only hunt crows 3 days a week. You can't shoot rats with an airgun. Mentored youth hunters (the ones 11 years and under that we're trying to get into hunting before we lose them to the PlayStation and soccer practice) can only shoot a buck...not a doe.

They come up with some doosies. :cool:

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Yeah we got some really good rules here in PA. My cousins from down south go crazy when they hear about some of this stuff we can't do.

Like no Sunday hunting. I miss being there but I have my GA lifetime license so when I get back I don't have the northern restriction. Alabama allows Sunday hunting that's another ppalce I get back to every year.

How about only hunting Turkeys up here until noon?

Ugh.

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As far as spring turkey hunting and getting with the times... Illinois needs to make some changes as well. No need to worry about hunting Sunday's for me because I always get a first season permit which is Monday-Friday (only 5 days)! In addition we have to knock off at noon!:mad:

Sure there are late drawings for other season permits that are not filled, but where I hunt I generally get one shot.

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