pointing_dogs_rule Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Hi Guys: Planning on getting a new muzzleloader and replacing my old Knight. TC has been an incredible contributor to the 4-H shooting sports here in Iowa. I am lookin at a new muzzleloader and am looking at TC because of thier generousity to 4-H. Which type to get. ENCORE: GOOD POINTS 1. you can switch barrels which I love 2. thumbhole stock 3. stainless barrel 4. black composite stock BAD POINTS 1. no 1/4 turn breech plug 2. $ Triumph: GOOD 1. tough weather gun 2. 1/4 turn breech plug 3. $ 4. Weathershield coated BAD 1. no interchangable barrels 2. no thumbhole stock Omega: About the same as the Triumph A tough choice. I am leaning towards the Encore. Any problems out there with the breech plug removal. Knight is a pain in the *** to remove. Thanks in advance the dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michiganbowhunter_SQ2 Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 If you are looking for strictly a muzzleloader, go with the triumph. My dad picked one up a few months ago, the thing is flat out awesome. If you think down the road you may want to switch barrels, go with the encore pro hunter. I see you listed one of the encores bad points as "no 1/4 turn breech" I believe the new encore endeavor has that now, the breech like the one on the triumph. but it is still kinda pricey. If I were to pick between the ones you have listed, I'd go with the Triumph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelund79 Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 If you have your heart set on a thumbhole stock-Omegas come with a thumbhole stock, I about pulled the trigger on one until I realized I wouldn't get to hunt with it as much as the price tag would have been...They are out there though, I just have not seen one on the triumph though, good luck in your search, Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Got to go with the Encore for sheer versatility IMHO. I have one and I'm very happy with it. Extremely accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blayze Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 I would go with the encore also. it is very accurate another big advantage is you can change the barrels. it is the best gun i own Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Take a look at the Encore Pro Hunter. Around here, the Pro Hunter is usually about $60 more than the original Encore. The extra features are worth a lot more than the price difference. The Flex Tech stock works as well as they say on TV. The 28" fluted barrel is a bit more accurate than the original Encore's 26" barrel. The Speed Breech is awesome. However, if you decide on the original Encore, get the EZ Tip Extractor, it is about $15 (it comes standard on the Pro Hunter). Otherwise, I think you have to take the gun apart to get the breech plug out, unless there has been a design change. I see that you have "price" listed as a negative about the Encore. If price is an issue, take a look at one of the "less fancy" Encores. I've seen a few black synthetic / blued barrel Encores around here for about $400. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointing_dogs_rule Posted July 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 thanks guys. I will look more closely at the encores. the dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born4it Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 I've got the Encore, and it's sweet. My dad and I are going to go out to Colorado elk hunting and I'm going to get a 7mm barrel for it. The breech plug comes out very easily, but the thing is kinda a pain to clean...you're not going to find a muzzleloader that's not though! It's worth it when you put your hands on those antlers! Good luck, Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddyboman Posted July 14, 2008 Report Share Posted July 14, 2008 another vote for the encore!!! I have been very happy with mine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailmanmark Posted July 15, 2008 Report Share Posted July 15, 2008 Encore Endeavor The Encore Endeavor has the same breech plug as the Triumph but with the adaptability of an Encore. Good Luck. By the way, my Triumph Shoots just as good as my Encore if not better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 One thing you are not looking at is the one piece stock on the Omega. That is a plus. It is stiffer than the two piece stocks, can be bedded and have a floated barrel. Big + for me. Two piece stocks are a big - in my eyes. The design of the Encore means you have to pull the firing pin and clean it when shooting stinky powder. It gets blowback of corrosive gasses and will rust quickly. I found this the hard way. I have been an Encore owner for 10 years, so I have first hand experience. As a handgun, I like the Encore, as a muzzleloader, it's not my favorite. I have a bull elk tag for muzzleloader season this October in New Mexico, my TC will stay in the safe. My Knight will be accompanying me on the hunt. My Remington 700 ML will be its backup in camp. In case something happens to the Knight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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