willis smith Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 do any of yall believe in the black panther cause i have a place on the north santee river where a guy took a picture of one nd our nighbors have seen one. i was wonderin how many of yall beleive in them so we could prove to the DNR they exsist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Put out a trail cam and get a pic of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddyboman Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Put out a trail cam and get a pic of it. That would be one awesome pic:cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willis smith Posted July 25, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 no one saw one on my property but close to it, also a guy took a picture of one on the river witch is a huge river with tons of acrege around it which is about 20 to 40 thousand acres. and every one that beleives that the panthers exsist in the south eastern part of usa needs to reply cause DNR and PETA say they are a myth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 every one that beleives that the panthers exsist in the south eastern part of usa needs to reply cause DNR and PETA say they are a myth Have heard rumors of there being big cat sightings around here, both black panther and mountain lion. Closest one on a cattle farm just up the road from me about 1/2 to 3/4 mile away from our property, supposedly a boy was turkey hunting and he ran across a big cat that was way to big to be a bobcat. The old retired neighbor man who owns the farm had no reason to lie or make that up, don't know the boy who was hunting but he said he believed him. Never seen one myself, and never gotten any pics of any on my cams. Gotten plenty of pics of bobcats and coyotes though, and have seen quite a few of them out and about. Seems to me where these predators live along this old river bottom if there was such a critter around it would eventually happen along past one of the cams I have out. Lots of people using cams nowadays, seems it would not be hard to find someone with pictures if they were really around. Not saying it is not possible, but never seen any evidence of one myself. Of course here the twra was in denial about alligators being in the area up until recent too, but since folks have been finding them more frequently in lakes around Memphis they admitted that they are likely making their way up the Mississippi river and they have made sure to remind everyone that they are not legal game here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugleward Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 Hey guys, a black panther is not impossible just rare. There are a couple ways to have one in your area. I can't remember the real term for sure but the black panther can be a leopard, cougar or Jaguar. They are a black pigmented animal. I think it's called melanistic or something like that. It's just like an albino only more rare. The area you are talking about could easily have two of the three cats who on occasion are black or melanistic. I would bet that is not quite the name but it could be. About 23 years ago I did see a black mountain lion in southeastern Montana. Like all the wild cats they are very secretive and could easily live their whole life without being seen by a human. Count your blessings to be one of the fortunate ones to see one of the rarest animals in the wild and natural world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 Hey guys, a black panther is not impossible just rare. There are a couple ways to have one in your area. I can't remember the real term for sure but the black panther can be a leopard, cougar or Jaguar. They are a black pigmented animal. I think it's called melanistic or something like that. It's just like an albino only more rare. The area you are talking about could easily have two of the three cats who on occasion are black or melanistic. I would bet that is not quite the name but it could be. About 23 years ago I did see a black mountain lion in southeastern Montana. Like all the wild cats they are very secretive and could easily live their whole life without being seen by a human. Count your blessings to be one of the fortunate ones to see one of the rarest animals in the wild and natural world. ward is right on here. don't forget, florida used to have plenty of them. so maybe.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willis smith Posted July 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 yea on history channel has a show called monster quest and they find evidence to see if animals like bigfoot or lochness monster is real. one episode was about the black panther and they denied its excidence. but how could this be couldnt the black panther be a animal that has been over hunted and there just is not a lot of them here. and the DNR say the black panthers are tall tales but i think the DNR are lying about a big black, brown, or blonde cat roaming the swamps forest and etc. of southeastern usa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugleward Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 Hey willis: I just checked on it. It is melanistic which is the condition of melanism. You can look it up in wickpedia.com. What do ya know this old fart's memory was right on. See I told them that wasn't the first thing to go. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Mountain lions come in a variety of colors, black being one of them. Although a solid black one is very rare, it's not unheard of. And I think there are far more mountain lions in far more states than most people realize. And your local DNR will not formally recognize their existence until they have a live or dead one as hard evidence. Which is exactly how they should operate. Otherwise, there's too good a chance for a case of mistaken identity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clrj3514 Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 im from north carolina and the only black panther ive heard of was one my dad saw while spotlighting a long time ago Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bebout Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 I live in Northeastern GA and I have seen one in broad daylight standing about 35 yrds. from the highway and there was a man in an oncoming car who also stopped in the middle of the road to see it. I know we have mountain lions (cougars) here in the Blue Ridge area I was coming home from Blairsville which is just north of Blue Ridge on 515 and a mountain lion ran in the road in front of me and I hit it. I turned around to see if I had killed it and there was nothing there but there was brown hair on the bumper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion_70 Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 I've seen a black panther 3 times in North La. and the first time was along with an entire school bus full of people in the early 80's. The other 2 times were behind my parents house not far from where it crossed the road in front of our schoolbus and ran up a tree. My parents hear one occasionally behind the house still. I live in Deland, Fl now and saw a panther(cougar) right behind my house recently. It was less than 40 yards from my kitchen window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 There was an article in the local newspaper a couple weeks ago about a black panther that has been spotted several times around Alton IL. The paper indicated it was either a large domestic cat or a black panther from Africa that someone had as a pet and escaped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 We have lots of lions, but I have not heard of any black versions. There are occasional sightings of the Jaguar, but with the drug runners and the illegals, the border is too busy for them. They like solutude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dubie Posted August 8, 2008 Report Share Posted August 8, 2008 "large domestic cat or a black panther from Africa " I'd think it would take one huge domestic cat to have even the slightest possibility of confusing it with a panther from Africa.... I have only ever seen two Cougars in Manitoba, and both were normal coloured. But where there's more big cats, I can see the chances of having one or two come up Melanistic. A melanistic cougar could easily be seen as a "Black PAnther" I'd think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry264 Posted August 9, 2008 Report Share Posted August 9, 2008 The black panter that used to frequent this area long ago seems to be a subspecies all to itself. Studying old sketches and drawings of "black panthers" from around here they don't exactly resemble the larger cats like cougars, leopards, or jaguars a great deal. They are larger than bobcats but smaller than cougars. So rarely seen anymore, some of the "experts" say they are a myth and don't exist. Check this young one out for it's build and uniqueness to it's larger brothers. This one looks like the drawings/sketches I've seen of panthers around here and fits the description of one that traveled through this area a year or two ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugleward Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 that's just a cub mountain lion with an abundance of melanin. This is the melanistic phase of a cougar or mountain lion. I would guess he is really about 6 months old. Guys -- this is not that rare or is it hard to believe. The reason we see the black ones more is because they are easier to see. I am sure there are a lot more cats out there that are not being seen. A mountain lion or cougar can vanish is a short stubble field. That's in their nature. The mountain lion is native to all of the United States. The jaguar is native to a bunch of southern tier states. Both of them can easily live their whole life undetected amongst us. Just think how easily you could see a jet black deer. Especially compared to a normal colored deer. You have all seen them vanish right in front of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry264 Posted August 10, 2008 Report Share Posted August 10, 2008 I think our native "panther" is a subspecies of another cat myself. Maybe more like from the jaguar family or something. The ear size and placement just doesn't fit the mountain lion (cougar) look, I don't think. http://outdoors.webshots.com/photo/1050493783036824857ZLXsWX Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugleward Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 Hey Terry: I agree with you. Most of the black panthers are a melenistic jaguar. The back cougar is by far the most rare. Most of the ones on utube appear to me to be jaguar. The one does appear to be a cougar. When it is a jaguar you can see the spots still if you get the light just right. In fact you can see it on several of the ones on utube. There is even one small cub there you can see momma just behind the cub and it is a jaguar. My main point is cougars and jaguars are native to the areas these guys are talking about. There are a ton more big cats out there than anyone wants to admit. I know out here the black hills is absolutely loaded with them. The game and fish says there are a few. I think they now have a bit more realistic view than they used to. There was a big question about why all the deer started disapearing. I think now they have come to the conclusion the 80% drop in deer numbers is due to an enormous population of mountain lions (cougar). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willis smith Posted August 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 down hear in south carfolina people see blonde, choclate, and black panthers. there are stories of finding dead deer 30 feet up in a tree. there is a story of a man being stalked by one. and of course there are stories of seeing them run across the road. i beleive that a there always some truth to every story and with this much stories there has to be some kind of big long tailed cat. i bet that somtimes when people see a animal run ful speed like a deer threw the brush you may want to think it was a panther then you might tall tale and exagerate how big it was even though it was a deer. i bet that half the stories are mistaking for somthing else and the othre half real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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