U.S hunting ban

[buckee]

Re: U.S hunting ban

OK...What do ya say we put this whole thing to rest now. This could go on and on, with he said, she said, they said ,,,oops, did I say she said Now who was I refering to, and am I liable now too

Lets drop it guys and get back to discussing, whatever. Let's face it...we all get excited when things happen that interfere with our hunting and our economics, when it comes to political interference.

Now, can I have your permission to wipe out a few posts here just to keep this topic on track, so we don't have to keep going with this or is there more to be hashed out here???

[Guest BeerSlayer1]

Re: Why are Ranchers so Dang Mad at Americans

Here's some news gleanings that may help our American friends understand the frustration that Canadian ranchers are feeling. These are not my opinions, so don't slam me, these are published FACTS.

The Globe and Mail (Canada's national newspaper) reported on their web site yesterday that the beef ban had cost the industry $5 BILLION dollars. Remember, we are a country with only about 30 million people.

The Western Producer has a front page story in this week's issue about a major Alberta feed lot (25,0000 cattle capacity) which will be sold to American interests. I won't copy the whole story, but here are some of the FACTS from the article:

The cost to build a feedlot like that is about $12 million and is brand new. The operator says he has lost as much as 40 per cent of his equity value since the border closed.

"The American suitors are feedlot owners and many of them have purchased Canadian cattle made inexpensive by the border closing...." ".....U.S. money is coming north to take advantage of a crisis created by American politics closing the border."

"....despite the official explanation that the border remains closed because of fears about the safety of Canadian cattle, these American industry players have no problem buying Canadian cattle."

"They know it is not a health and safety issue."

As I say, I'm just telling you the facts, so don't complain to me. If you don't like it, complain to The Globe and Mail or the Western Producer or................the U.S. government.

EDIT EDIT EDIT, I just have to put in a personal comment: We've seen this tactic before with the softwood lumber tariff (which was thrown out in the international courts) - slap on an unfair trade restriction, drive Canadian businesses to the point of economic hardship and then the American business interests swoop in to buy up the assets at a bargain price.

[Guest BeerSlayer1]

Re: Why are Ranchers so Dang Mad at Americans

You're right Buckee, arguing about politics sucks - lets move on to religion (just kidding). I think I'll get away from the computer and take my kids out ice fishing tomorrow. The weather is fantastic and the fresh air is going to be good for all of us!

[VtBowhunter]

Re: Why are Ranchers so Dang Mad at Americans

I just want to set the record straight here. I have nothing what-so-ever against any Canadians. Now nobody said I did, but I wanted to make sure everyone understands that. The thing that gets me so ticked here is that with all the problems in the world the governments of these 2 countries that have so much in common and have been allies for so long seem to have nothing better to do then place restrictions on one another and then the citizens wind up ticked off at each other because of stuff that we don't even fully fathom, and I really don't care to try and understand the governments line of thinking.

I prefer the good ol' jesting and picking that goes on between the members here and think that we have gone a long ways in getting away from that, so Buckee, I whole-heartedly agree with you and I wish for nobody to be offended by anything I may have put into this thread.

[Guest BCBOY]

Re: Why are Ranchers so Dang Mad at Americans

I thought the big debate ended with my Igloo pics and now I see all this when I come back with my dogsled team from checking the trapline. Geeze, you would think that the -60 degrees is bad enough. I'm sure ol' pappy will be rolling on his icefloat.

[VermontHunter]

Re: U.S hunting ban

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To Vermonthunter I say....Peace.

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BeerSlayer1, right back at ya and hope to be able to call you friend as well as SaskMan or any other Canadian citizen.

I have the upmost respect for my Canadian counterparts, but for our Governments and Big Business on both sides they stink and they are only hurting the little guy like you and I......and I agree if I owned a business and it was being threatened in the way that the Candian Beef Farmer is I would become defensive also, but don't you agree that this step they are taking only further hurts the already fragil economic position that the Canadian Govenrment is in ???? but I don't see where this Big Business Power Play should affect relationships between the little guys such as you and I...so I say, I hope we can be friends and try to work through this difficult situation being as respectful and friendly as possible to one another, forget being American or Canadian and try to focus on us as being families and friends trying to make a good honest living to be able to give our families things they want from life.

I hope I worded this the right way, and it's taken in the way it was attended to mean...

If this is not to be just say the word and I'll refrain from visiting and posting in this part of the forum..

[sureshot]

Re: U.S hunting ban

Saskman one thing you are missing is the jobs and income the US hunters bring to us, I am about 40 minutes from the border and have great bird huntign and all the hotles, motels are full in sept, and oct, this and the odd wedding is all that keeps these places open, if everyone stops them from huntign our small town is doomed, its the hotels, a resteraunt gone, prob a service station, ours gains abotu 35-40% sept and oct from the hunters filling up! It brings 10's of thoasands of dollers into a twobit town that needs the hunters to keep alive! I am not saying they do not have the right to say no, they deffinatly do but its hurtign the store they go to and the whole town that helps to support them on the farm!I tlaked to one guy who wa snot lettign any americans on becouse some friends from Co wanted to hunt there, I talked for a while and said ok you not lettign them huntign becouse of soemthign there goverment did is no different than all the USA citizens blaming us and causing trouble for us becouse we are run by morons and they think we are all morons!you can not blame a certain person for what a goverment does or we would be in serious trouble up here!! just my opinion but if we stop all us huntign here i know alot of small towns that are done for, 2 months a year keep us alive!!