Guest jduffy03 Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Hey guys, I recently switched to Rage 2-blade mechanicals. I have shot two bucks with them. The first buck was at 30 yards and the 2 inch wide cutting path made a complete pass-through, right behind the shoulder, and the arrow stuck into the ground on the other side. He only ran about 50 yards and collapsed! I couldn't possibly think of or ask for anything more in a broadhead. The other buck was hit very far back - what I would call the back hip (embarassed to even tell the story - but I won't go into details why this poor of shot was made ) and was recovered a few days later a half-mile away. The entry hole was huge - over 2 inches. Unfortunately, it only pentrately roughly 4 inches. But remember, this was my fault and I'm not sure what a fixed-blade broadhead with a smaller cutting diameter would have done. I'm thinking the pelvis or very hard bone was encountered. Either way, deeper penetration in this poor of area would not help much. The lack of good recovery was completely based on poor shot placement. With these two stories said, I have been completely happy with the broadheads. However, I have heard some horror stories of these heads opening up in flight and even hear that not all of the blades open on entry (in some cases). Also, due to the construction of most mechanicals, there is just not simply as much strength due to the fact that the blades are only simply supported at point point - not the whole length of the blade. Being an engineer (and probably not needing to be one to realize this...haha), I know that the mechanics/statics behind fixed blades over mechanicals are superior. The moment created at the tip of the mechanical blade can be quite forceful and with only one point of support, the mechanicals are at a disadvantage. However, the aerodynamics of mechanics should potentially be better than fixed blades - but not necessarily. I'm sure the number of great kills outweigh the number of poor kills or bad experiences, but I still feel that we hunters owe everything in our power to deliver a quick and humane kill. I am starting to lose confidence in something that "could" fail. I used to shoot Muzzy 100 grains and loved them. The only problem was that I could not make them impact with my field points. Since then, I have bought a Switchback XT and can shoot ALOT better. I believe my bow is tuned well, but still like the concept of these new "perfect" Rage broadheads that eliminated the old problems of mechanicals and can impact with my field points. I have heard many good things about some of today's fixed blade broadheads though. I am starting to look into the "sure-thing" and not have to worry about blades opening up early - or not at all. With a tuned bow and more shooting experience under my belt, I would like to try a fixed-blade broadhead again and see if I can get it to shoot with my field points. I am not an awesome shooter (but I feel I can "hold my own"), but I'm guessing that some of you guys can probably shoot your fixed-blades as good as your field points? Does anyone have any suggestions for a good, tough, accurate fixed-blade head? I figure I at least owe it to the animal to give fixed-blades a try again. If I can shoot them just as good as my field points, then why not, right? Any stories, experiences, comments are greatly appreciated. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkinslinger Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Buy some Slick Trick Magnums 100 grain ...you'll never look back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born4it Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 I have used G5 Montecs for the last couple years, and they're awesome. When they came out, and there was still a "buzz" with them, they were said to be the most accurate fixed blades on the market...supposed to fly exactly like field points if the bow is tuned correctly. They're also made of one piece of solid steel, which makes them stronger than other fixed blades that have different parts to them. One of my best friend's in-laws is a pro hunter, and he said that the average pressure, in pounds, it takes a fixed blade broadhead to penetrate a deer hide is about 13. The Montec is 2.3 lbs. according to him. Very sharp!!! At least consider them if nothing else :-) Good luck, Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Magnus Stingers or Aftershock Maniacs..................The magnus are a fixed blade and the Aftershock are replaceable blade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelund79 Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Just got back into bow hunting this year after a pretty good hiatus. Picked up some NAP HellRazors and they are shooting near point of impact as my field points(100 gr). I like the 1 piece construction, and they have a decent cutting diameter for a 1 piece. 1 1/8". Can't wait to try them out this year....Bring on the slick head vennie chops!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimPic Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Magnus Stingers.Accurate,scary sharp,they fly great,and they have a lifetime warranty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LifeNRA Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 I shoot Muzzy's 100 grain three blade. Once I paper tuned my bow I got my BH's and FT's hitting the same mark. As far as the Rage broad heads, the only bad stories I heard of was the three blade version not working as well as the two blade version. If I were to use a mechanical head now, it would be the two blade Rage. But I have no problems with my Muzzy's at this time. Then again, even after I paper tuned, the Rage's flew like FT's too! But at $40 for three heads, the Muzzy's I can get six heads! Does the broad head wobble on the arrow shaft? You need to make sure that the BH is straight on the arrow shaft. This is where a G5 ASD tool can help. Did you paper tune your bow? If not, give this a try and see what your FT's and BH's look like after you do. You still might have to make a slight adjustment on your sight. Also paper tune with a BH attached, just to make sure. How is the string and cable? If its more than two years old, think about changing them. They could be stretched out of specs. These are just a few questions, but there could be other variables that might throw off the results. These are just a few suggestions as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 I like the nap thunder heads they work well and fly well for me. i also use the mechical spitfires i like them alot! But when it came to me taking my biggest buck to date, i used the thunderhead i just didnt want to have a failure of my mechnical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzy61 Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Slicktrick 100 grain standards. Flys like a field point and good blood trails. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 I'm a Tekan guy myself but, If I were to go to a "fixed blade" I would go to a "Shuttle T-lock by Tight Point. You lose a little in cutting diameter but a field point will kill with a properly placed shot. These, IMO are the next best thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mule659 Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Last year I used the Striker heads and really liked tham...they are absoultely the sharpest things out of the box I have seen...be careful with them lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambar Hunter Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Get some Australian made Black Stump Broadheads big range, I shot 125g Ironbark blackstump and Ive shot goats, and a few species of deer with them, best broadhead you will ever buy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 In my experience muzzy's fly great with my setup, do not see me changing from 3 blade 100 grain muzzy heads. Can practice with them with practice blades too, and I do practice with the muzzy's with practice blades on bag type targets with different dots to shoot at. Never had any issues with them hitting different from my field points when I have shot field points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThethirdI Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Three years ago I shot an 8 point in the hind quarter after holding the string way too long and then taking the shot. My fault completely, but I was using a 100 grain Satellite Titan 4 blade broadhead and after pulverizing the hip bone it took a left hand turn and came out the rear end of the deer. He went about 75 or 80 yards and never took another step. My best friend shoots the 125 grain version and he took a quartering too shot that wound up going throught the ribs the entire length of the body and traveled nearly all the way through the rear hip joint on the opposite side. Both broadheads were still intact after these events. When we tested them we used hardwood boards and after shooting into the wood the broadheads were still in one piece. The proof is on my wall and his too. Nuff said I guess! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Finn Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 I'd recommend you look at Slick Trick 100s, Muzzy 3 blade 100s or a Magnus Stinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoyt03 Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 Best two in my opinion slick trick standards or the G5 strikers. The slick tricks will only cost around 20-22 for 3 heads and they are defintely the best fixed head I've ever shot and fly as good as field points out of my setup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowtech_archer07 Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 I'd recommend Muzzle 3 blade 100s as well. They have a large cutting diameter for a fixed blade and in my opinion, you cannot beat the Trocar tip for bone crushing ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Predator Posted August 16, 2008 Report Share Posted August 16, 2008 I like Steel force. Old style but there's no chisel to slow things down. Have not had a lost deer since I started using them including an spinal shot centered from above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDAWG Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 I agree with a lot of the people here, I recommend using slick tricks, 100 gr. Last season, I shot a deer. The deer was quatering away from me, but the slick trick blew right through the opposite shoulder. Awesome penetration! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noobi Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 take a look at G5 Strikers. They're strong,tough,sharp and f/p accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skooba Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Muzzy 100 gr 3 blade! All i have to say is bad to the bone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUTNSTRUT Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Magnus Buzzcut,or Snuffer SS are very tough and accurate plus they have an unconditional lifetime replacement warranty. All you have to do is send a head in to them for ANY reason,and they will send you a new one. I wait until I have at least 3 to send in. Then they just send me a new package of broadheads. The new NAP Nightmare is also a very tough and accurate broadhead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoytbowhunter Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Muzzy Mx-3's with a properly tuned bow and arrows they will impact excactly where your field do at least for me not to mention they are tough as nails!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhunter Posted August 17, 2008 Report Share Posted August 17, 2008 Well I've shot Muzzy for the last 6 years and love them. Using a 125 3-blade. I have shot 6 deer with these heads and have passes through all 6 deer. Including one through both shoulders at 28 yards. Through the back hip on a buck at 8 yards(string snapped arm) and last year through a buck at 38 yards. Now with all that being said, I'm switching this year to tight-point shuttle T-lock 100 grains. Reason being I went turkey hunting this year in Kansas and a guy I went with asked me to try them. The T-locks flew consistently better than did the Muzzy's in terms of accuracy once I got to 30 yards and farther...... So muzzy's are been stellar for me, but I'm giving the T-locks a try this season for increased accuracy over the proven penetration....Hopefully it doesn't bite me in the rear end.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dthbyhoyt Posted August 18, 2008 Report Share Posted August 18, 2008 I use the Muzzy MX4 and have no problems with them , great BH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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