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I can see that we all feel too strongly about our personal preferences about the next president so I can GUARANTEE you that I need to leave this section of the sight before I get myself in trouble any more than I already have. I DEF will not be posting any more in here because I really dont want to argue with you guys...At this point, I am no longer here to make friends and that was not my intention from the start. I posted yesterday and of course it got removed about people (in person) bashing certain members of this site. These people are in NO affiliation with me and I was warned about certain people. Little did I know that it would come back to haunt me and what I was told was true. Just remember, I put my neck on the line for you guys and I get backstabbed by people not respecting my opinion. I am sure this post will be edited by the moderators because it is something different than what they want to hear, but so be it.....if you want a public banning, you might just see one....

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I posted yesterday and of course it got removed about people (in person) bashing certain members of this site........ I am sure this post will be edited by the moderators because it is something different than what they want to hear, but so be it.....if you want a public banning, you might just see one....

Not sure what you are referring to here Lance, I did edit one comment in one of your several threads. The comment I edited of yours was aimed at another member and you used two letters in one word and replaced the rest of those letters with number signs, leaving what you intended up to the imagination.

Political debates here are welcome, attacking other members are not tolerated. If you have a problem with another post or feel that you are being attacked I would appreciate if you would pm me and let me know exactly where that is, and I will most certainly follow up on it. For your comment on this thread being edited and what exactly it is that you are implying here, I see no reason to edit it.

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Lance has chosen not to participate any further at this time in political discussions as he posted above. Through all that has been posted of recent to get to this point, sarcasm has been used by several members including Lance. Sarcasm is not in my opinion in any way unusual in political debates, actually think it is pretty normal. The thing everyone needs to remember is that if you are going to dish it, you had better be able to take it but remember that sarcastic replies or posts do not warrant attacking another member and that attacks simply will not be let go.

For those who were not here or do not remember there was another member here about 4 years ago who went pretty well against the majority and there were some pretty heated disagreements/debates, but he stood firm and was able to provide some factual argument to support his opinion. That member is still active here and I have a great deal of respect for Marc and his persistence then with his views and likewise even though I do not really agree with anything in regards to his political opinions I do still respect Lance's opinion as do I am sure most members here.

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:o:o I'm feeling....verklempt. :) Seriously though, I appreciate the kind words. I often think of four years ago when I started posting in the political forums. I took a lot of heat for my views, many of which I do not adhere to today, but some I still believe in. A few weeks ago I replied to a post that Lance made, basically telling him what you have said here, that I took a lot of heat, but I stood by my beliefs, and provided factual background....well, to some of it anyways.:D I will readily admit that there are things that I said, and that others said, that shouldn't have been said, but that is the nature of politics I guess, especially in dealing with issues that affect all of us, whether positively or negatively, things can get heated when trying to prove a point, or defend a point. I have actually started to refer to Obama as a socialist, and decry his health care plan, basically because the only way to pay for it is to raise taxes or to take the money from another budget. If I had to guess, I would say the Defense budget. I also have a much different take on welfare programs and the like. While I don't mind helping out those less fortunate and those who truly need government assistance, I guess I look at things differently now that I am married and have a family, but I have enough problems and worries about providing for my family and putting food on the table for my kids, without having to pay someones rent and out food in their kids mouths because they are too lazy to provide for themselves. I don't think I will ever be a true Conservative, given a lot of my background, but I am closer now to being one than I was four years ago. Four years ago I had a Kerry sticker on my truck, now I have a McCain sticker and a sign in my yard. I don't know what November will turn out like, and right now it doesn't look good, but one can hope that the people of America will wake up and see that rhetoric and hyperbole do not make a good President.
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