JJL Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 Pretty much all urine is a mixture of water, minerals, and nitrogeneous waste. I have noticed that my diet affects the smell of my urine. Fact. How much does a deer's diet affect the smell of bottled urine? Can the urine of captured/collection deer vary based upon their diet? If you're feeding those deer a pelleted ration with assorted hay choices, what happens if I use that urine where the primary food source is sage or oak brush? It has to chemically affect the smell the same as it does in humans. What have your studies shown? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 INTERESTING .... I see / smell what your are saying ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted October 11, 2008 Report Share Posted October 11, 2008 INTERESTING .... I see / smell what your are saying ... LOL...Dont step it that:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 Excellent question Jim. I'd be interested to hear the answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 yea. good post, jim. and if the deer eats beets, does it's urine turn red. mine does... lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJL Posted October 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 yea. good post, jim. and if the deer eats beets, does it's urine turn red. mine does... lol You sure it's from the beets? :eek::eek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 You sure it's from the beets? :eek::eek: hmmmmm:D:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted October 14, 2008 Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Not a chemist, but unless there is some sort of preservative I am guessing that once urine breaks down to ammonia it probably pretty well all smells the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tink Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Sugar cane makes urine sweet When deer are fed Sugar cane it make the urine taste sweeter This is why hunters should avoid eating garlic onion broccoli Brussels sprout and other veggies high in urea and that stuff makes yoru urea acid & urine s stink you are what you eat Indian avoided meat & sex 3 days before major hunts they say Not eating meat lowered their scent profile in the bush. Most protein is passed off in waste feces & urine. Urine is about the most powerful of the chemical communication in deer. Next time I talk to a buck I will ask him Tink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJL Posted October 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Next time I talk to a buck I will ask him Tink I'll take that as a definate.......I don't know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texastrophies Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 When deer are fed Sugar cane it make the urine taste sweeter And how do we know this?????:D:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 ...Urine is about the most powerful of the chemical communication in deer... Alot of people believe that urinating from the treestand does not bother deer or they have stated that having done so they've witnessed deer actually smell where they went and not spook. Why have some people been able to pee into scrapes during winter weather(snowfall) only to have deer use the same scrape that very same day or that evening??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJL Posted October 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 And how do we know this?????:D:D Good Catch Jeff.................apparently they do some pretty strange testing down in Covington. Gotta make sure that the product is fresh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 just what i was thinking. lol hey, tink. you have a sweet gal that actually kisses that mouth... lol. i'm hoping you have some actual testing equipment...???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Team Realtree Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 First of all. I know for a fact asparagus will effect urine smell (anyone that eats it will agree). Secondly, I have taken Tinks 69 (we get lots of it here at work) and dropped about 10 drops in the middle of a plot I've hunted and watched young bucks root for it like I buried a treasure (if there were older ones, I would have shot them). Thirdly. Yesterday, me and my oldest boy Jack went hunting. I drop him off and as usual, I just go sit in a stand nearby to watch and see what's moving (not really hunting unless I see a coyote or bobcat). I got in the stand right after drinking a ton of sweet tea (and a diet coke before that). I had to go, and I had no problem doing it right off the front of the stand. 30 minutes later, I had a 4 point come out to my left and he started feeding straight up toward me and my stand. I sat there and watched that buck feed right in front of me at 10 yards for 30 minutes and never raise his snout or look my way (5 yards from the base of my stand and where I did my business). So go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 i did "go figgre", scott. and i figured jack was in the wrong stand. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 ...I got in the stand right after drinking a ton of sweet tea... Another tip for hunting "Southern Deer"..leaks out...so to speak:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted October 21, 2008 Report Share Posted October 21, 2008 Alot of people believe that urinating from the treestand does not bother deer or they have stated that having done so they've witnessed deer actually smell where they went and not spook. Why have some people been able to pee into scrapes during winter weather(snowfall) only to have deer use the same scrape that very same day or that evening??? Believer here. Have started several scrapes with my own urine and had deer take them over. Shot a video clip of a buck working a scrape that had my own urine in the scrape along with a scrape dripper with active scrape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tink Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 Testing 1 2 3 .....testing I am a guru... I just happen to know a lot about scents... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJL Posted October 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 I'm happy for you Tink.:rolleyes: Now maybe you'd like to answer the original question, I'd appreciate it. Pretty much all urine is a mixture of water, minerals, and nitrogeneous waste. I have noticed that my diet affects the smell of my urine. Fact. How much does a deer's diet affect the smell of bottled urine? Can the urine of captured/collection deer vary based upon their diet? If you're feeding those deer a pelleted ration with assorted hay choices, what happens if I use that urine where the primary food source is sage or oak brush? It has to chemically affect the smell the same as it does in humans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tink Posted October 23, 2008 Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 I Assume that deer diet is reflected in the urine & feces. Captive deer are fed a diet of grains & veggies high in water content like apples beets carrots etc to maximize the urine output. When fed onions the urine is stronger smelling. I doubt a buck would be alarmed at the urine output from a deer with a different diet. I would bet the buck would be More interested in meeting a deer with a different diet. But in the fall most bucks interest in does in reproductive and sexual in nature. Tink Nathan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 I see your point and it has me wondering, will urine collected in Texas be as effective as Kansas where the deer eat corn? Im sure it is still very effective but could that uring perhaps be more effective in Texas where it was collected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJL Posted October 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 I Assume that deer diet is reflected in the urine & feces. Captive deer are fed a diet of grains & veggies high in water content like apples beets carrots etc to maximize the urine output. When fed onions the urine is stronger smelling. I doubt a buck would be alarmed at the urine output from a deer with a different diet. I would bet the buck would be More interested in meeting a deer with a different diet. But in the fall most bucks interest in does in reproductive and sexual in nature. Tink Nathan Thanks Tink................That's what I was looking for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted October 24, 2008 Report Share Posted October 24, 2008 I've had similar results with what Scott described. I collected my own urine for a day or two and dumped it on a trail and on a fence post. Later in the hunt, a doe and fawn nosed around the dump site and a little 9 pt actually licked the post. Since then I've used my own urine on drag lines and scrapes and I've seen similar results. I can only remember spooking one deer with my own urine. BTW--I don't know about deer, but if there's sugar in a human's urine, that's a key indicator that you have diabetes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tink Posted October 25, 2008 Report Share Posted October 25, 2008 Our urine is collected inthe Midwest All our doe urine is Collected in the Midwest not GA:p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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