BowJoe Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 I would definitely say that McCain did 90% of what Conservatives wanted him to do in this debate and I definitely think he won in a big way. I was on edge about how he would perform and think that he won 2 out of the 3 debates. The first one he barely won but didn't really take it to Obama like his supporters wanted. I think he lost the second one by saying, "My friends" too much and backing away from the issues and repeating his stump speeches. I wasn't inspired at all by the second debate. Now, on to this last debate. I was practically standing up and applauding him on most of the questions. I loved the part where he tells obama that he is not George Bush and that if he wanted to run against Bush, he should have ran 4 years ago. That was the quote of the debate and will be in the news all week along with obama's dance around his relationship with Ayers. I think McCain won and I can almost guarantee his poll numbers will jump by the undecided and the few Dems that were queezy about obama to begin with. Go McCain!!! Especially with Palin by his side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 Definitely a better performance by McCain. He needed to go on the attack and really tell the American people who Obama is and what he stands for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 No TV because we just moved! I will have to read about it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 McCain definitely had a better debate this time around, but in my opinion there was not anything that will likely swing undecided voters one way or another. The comment about him not being Bush was a good one, hopefully not a little too little a little too late. Will be interesting to see how polls may change with this debate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 I thought McCain did a great job though I don't think he really knocked it out of the park. His performance in this debate was far better than that of the one before this. Hopefully his performance did swing some of the undecideds, guess we will find out in a few short weeks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJL Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 I thought McCain did as well as he could. He's a lot easier to watch when he's sitting, the man appears to be uncomfortable when standing. McCains hard jabs were repelled by O'Bama very nicely. O'Bama is "Teflon" coated at this stage of the race. It's going to take some pretty serious dirt to stick to him. CNN actually did some "honest" reports on ACORN yeterday, however, they seem very reluctant to tie O'Bama to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddyboman Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 but in my opinion there was not anything that will likely swing undecided voters one way or another. Most of the "undecided" voters that cnn or msnbc or whatever station was talking to was still undecided after the debate. And all the polls those station showed that Obama was the winner in the debate according to whomever they polled.... I will be curious today to see what is said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 I think Obama "won" because he showed up, talked smoothly without actually saying anything substantive, and didn't get cornered into making any major gaffs. McCain should have hammered Obama on rejecting public campaign financing. If I were McCain, I would have looked Obama in the eye and asked "Senator, the first major campaign pledge you made, back in 2007, was to accept public funding for your Presidential campaign, should you be the Democratic nominee. But as soon as you saw that you could raise tens of millions more, and totally outspend your Republican opponent, you immediately broke that pledge. I think the American people deserve an explanation as to why you would go back on your word." On the economy, McCain should have said "The seeds of this current economic problem were sown in 1997 when President Clinton mandated that Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac change their policy on securing loans. It got worse as we saw years of mismanagement of those two organizations. The directors basically ran the institutions into the ground, while at the same time making millions for themselves. And now, two of those directors, Jim Johnston and Franklin Raines are deeply involved in your campaign. How can the American people trust you to find solutions to the ecnonomic problems when two of the main culprits are so closely tied to your campaign?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowJoe Posted October 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 A few things I noticed, were that Obama never answered a few questions directly posed to him by McCain. One was the question about the fine imposed on employers who don't comply with the health insurance. Obama said their would be no fines. My question and I think McCain tried to ask it, was, "Then how do you enforce it if they have no penalty for ignoring it?" Another, was that I thought for sure Obama would have a slick new comeback to the question about his relationship to Ayers. Nothing new and he still didn't answer the question. He also pranced around the question of what he's done to go against his party. Truth is, he has never gone against his own party on anything. He stated groups of people that are affiliated with the democrat party but never any one time that he totally went against his party's overall decision. In fact, he voted present instead so he could further his career and not have a bad vote on his hands. I don't care about his affiliations with Ayers but what I do care about is the speech he made in western PA about the people there clinging to their guns and religion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted October 16, 2008 Report Share Posted October 16, 2008 mccain was better than obama, but he was still very lack-luster. he did nothing that will win him an election. now, to answer the question on who won. it was: JOE THE PLUMBER. i wonder if joe the plumber is the son of rosie the riveter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 I think McCain may have very well missed the best opportunity he'll ever have when Schiffer asked them to describe why they thought their VP candidates were qualified to become President if anything happened. McCain should have simply said "Governor Palin has more leadership experience than Senator Obama." And then said nothing else. The effect would have been devastating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 I think McCain may have very well missed the best opportunity he'll ever have when Schiffer asked them to describe why they thought their VP candidates were qualified to become President if anything happened. McCain should have simply said "Governor Palin has more leadership experience than Senator Obama." And then said nothing else. The effect would have been devastating. Would have to agree with this. That was in my opinion a botched answer on McCain's part, one where he did not really fully answer the question when he very easily could and should have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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