Tominator Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Use them if you want but your putting your trust in a little black "O" ring No you're not. You need to look at the design of the Rage. That little O-ring barely holds the blades in place, and it's at the back of the slip cam, not in front like other designs. To be honest, I have trouble believing your story of finding an unopened Rage in your deer, and if you don't want it, send it to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tink Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Fellow shot a good buck last week that had an UNEXPANDED Rage in the soft guts Why didn't it open? It was a poor hit but still it should have opened Huh or what? man shot the deer and deer didnt act wounded at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backwoods07 Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Fellow shot a good buck last week that had an UNEXPANDED Rage in the soft guts Why didn't it open? It was a poor hit but still it should have opened Huh or what? man shot the deer and deer didnt act wounded at all? Unless that buck's hide was made of warm butter, the rage should've opened. Again, I've heard and seen expandables closing after opening. I don't know know the physics behind it, but I've seen it. In fact, there's even a warning on the package of Spitfires that says 'don't be alarmed if you find the broadhead closed after a shot. The blades tend to tuck back in.' (or something like that.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Excited2Draw Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 I just got mine yesterday and I can see how they could close back up easily after opening. The blades don't lock once open, but the force of going thru the deer would have to keep them open until the pass thru. I could see how on a bad shot, where they stay in the body, they could be open, 1/2 open, or closed once they are found. Regarding the O ring, I agree with the previous poster. The O ring is behind the blade and does not hold it in place, so I don't see how the O ring affects anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Look, I just re-read my post, and I came off as being angry or holier than thou, that was not my intent. I guess what my point is is that I know how the Rage works, and I've seen it work and I just don't see how that design could not not work, if that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHISKEYSWAMP Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 so far 3 for 3 this year with the rage 3 blade... one antelope in Wyoming and two does here in Ohio. Had to track one doe for a bit but my shot was a little farther back than I wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohiobuckhunter Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 i have had some good results with the 3 blade rage only downside i have seen from them is i'm not getting passthroughs. but i shot a doe last night and it blew threw her front shoulder also it went through the heart and one lung. she only made it 50 yards at the most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backwoods07 Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 i have had some good results with the 3 blade rage only downside i have seen from them is i'm not getting passthroughs. but i shot a doe last night and it blew threw her front shoulder also it went through the heart and one lung. she only made it 50 yards at the most I had a shoulder shot on a great buck earlier this year with a 3 blade. Didn't get as much penetration as I'd like. 20 yd shot pullin 70 lbs too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoosierhunter Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 that would be my question. What's the penetration on a bone hit and is the arrow deflecting at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backwoods07 Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Like I started to mention above, I got a straight shoulder shot (I was shakin like a jackhammer) shootin 70 lbs from 20 yds. Arrow stuck in him about 4-6 inches. He carried it about 100 yds or so before it wiggled its way out. Not the best penetration...Again, this is with a rage 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 that would be my question. What's the penetration on a bone hit and is the arrow deflecting at all? I can't speak for the 3 blade, but I've seen 2 blades blow through 2 deer on bone hits. The buck Tom shot last year, that Rage went through both shoulders, and that was a mature 3 year old buck. The buck I shot this year the Rage went through 1 shoulder blade and lodged in the off ribcage after going through the heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backwoods07 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 I can't speak for the 3 blade, but I've seen 2 blades blow through 2 deer on bone hits. The buck Tom shot last year, that Rage went through both shoulders, and that was a mature 3 year old buck. The buck I shot this year the Rage went through 1 shoulder blade and lodged in the off ribcage after going through the heart. Hmmm, wonder what happened to mine then... Maybe the 3 blade is just that much different than the 2 blade. Either that or my buck drank a lot of milk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 I've not heard rave reviews about the Rage 3 blade. The 2 blade is another story. You won't find too many bigger bodied deer than these two and the Rage 2 blade put both these deer down within 80 yards. Both deer shot through shoulder bones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilbowman Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Here is my 2 cents.. As a lifelong muzzy shooter I will never switch to a expandable but one of my hunting buddies has went from a expandable to muzzys and now to the rage, he has lost 2 does that he shot both through the shoulder and the arrow did not pass through. Last night he shot a doe right through the pocket quartering away and man did it do some damage. I could have put a tennis ball in the entrance hole and the left lung and heart were gone! If the broadhead hits bone straight on I would be concerned but if you can get th shot off in the pocket you should be good. I will never change cause I dont believe in changing something that is not broke, but if I were to go to any of the expandables I would have to say this one would be on my list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthewjr83 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 I have shot two deer this year with the same rage 2 broadhead, first was a doe that ran about 50 yards after i shot and the blood trail was really great, easy tracking job. The second deer was a 7 with some lil kickers and i shot him from 15 yds and he only ran 10 yards and crashed, destroyed diaphram, lungs! Both pics are on the deer hunting forum page under indiana deer hunting report, i have some great doe pics of what the rage 2 broadhead does to deer... i'll never change... all my buddies also shoot rage, so far 1 shot from all and the count is 3 bucks and 2 does with rage 2 broadheads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Excited2Draw Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Quick question - I was taught/told to shoot behind the shoulder broadside or quartering away. Why/when would you shoot a deer thru the shoulder? Is it a missed/bad shot or is there a time that the shoulder shot is OK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michiganbowhunter_SQ2 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Use them if you want but your putting your trust in a little black "O" ring The problem with comments like this is that they usually come from people with no experience on the equipment being discussed or their opinions are based on what the advertising for the type of head they use tells them. I have seen hundreds of pictures of animals taken with the rages. They are an AMAZING head. There were some troubles with the 3 blades opening when they first came out, and if in fact you did find a head in the deer as you claim, it might have been one of those bad ones (if it was a 3 blades, and from the sounds of it, it was a bad shot). I actually had a pack for 3 blades and decided not to use them. But the 2 blades IMO are ridiculously lethal and everything I have seen shot with them looks like they to a hatchet to the animal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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