EKYhunter Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 :void(0)'> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txsbuda Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 This has been out there for so long. Can you come up with something new? And by the way, in your own words, can you tell me what this means to you. McCain hasn't been able to tell us. As a matter of fact he shook his head no when an elderly woman said he was an Arab. He also said he was a decent man. What's your take? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 I don't fault Obama for dressing up in the clothes of his ancestral home, even if it does make him look like a dufus. But I would feel a lot less uneasy about an Obama presidency if somewhere, sometime in his life, he had put on a uniform of the United States. Heck, he's never even worn a Boy Scout uniform. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKYhunter Posted October 29, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 This has been out there for so long. Can you come up with something new? And by the way, in your own words, can you tell me what this means to you. McCain hasn't been able to tell us. As a matter of fact he shook his head no when an elderly woman said he was an Arab. He also said he was a decent man. What's your take? I'll tell ya what it means to me. It means that he has a very questionable background and that he at least has sympathies toward muslims. It also means that you have a clear choice. One man chose to serve his country while another chose to befriend radical home grown terrorists and use illegal drugs. It means that one wants to redistribute wealth in this country, in his own words, and raise taxes while the other wants to cut taxes and encourage small business and the American Dream. It means that one of them wants to spend billions more on social programs when we just don't have that money to spend unless we just raise taxes even higher and that the other seems to think that maybe we should control our spending. It means that one of them has about as much experience as I do to become president while the other has been serving his country for over 40 years. It means that one believes in the 2nd ammendment while the other thinks that if I'm somehow disenfranchised with the good ole USA that I just cling to my guns and religion and that there's nothing wrong with a little more gun control. It means that one believes in the rights of the unborn while another thinks it's ok to kill a baby if the mother doesn't want it and professes to be a Christian. It means that there really is a very clear choice on November 4th and that people should wake up and see what is plainly in front of them. That's what it means to me and that's in my own words. I hope they are clear enough for you to understand and that you will ask yourself exactly what "Real change" Mr. Obama will bring, not his talking points, but what will he really do and what are the consequences of that change. One more question, shouldn't it give you pause think that if the palestinians and Louis Farrakhan are for a certain canadate, that maybe you might want to NOT vote for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 It tells me that the one on the left sacrificed to protect his country and the one on the right does what's popular at the time. One has character and the other is a character. That's what it tells me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierbuck Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 It tells me that looking at the stats, Obama has more supporters on RT with less than 20 posts, and McCain has more supporters with more than 1,000 posts. Not sure what to make of that, but it's just a statistical analysis. Obama is an unkown on a lot of counts, and on what he is known on, I don't like. He seems sincere, and he speaks well and dresses snappy. Nice qualities, but not what I am looking for in my president. McCain is a man who has laid it on the line for his country (and mine) and has a lot of experience in legislature, and the military. I think he is better suited to lead my country where I want it to go, and less apt to screw up my freedom with bad Supreme Court appointments. Finally, McCain will serve as a check to the zealots under Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid, as opposed to a rubber stamp on the liberal agenda of the aforementioned legislators. Plus he is not a big baby killer. If you think broadening abortion rights is anything less than killing babies you are delusional. I can't abide by delusional baby killers. HB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 The above responses have better posts than what I can come up with. I agree with the above, except for the txbuda post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaRancherBoy Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 You guys really needs to wise up! McCain has served his country well and we should never take anything from that! I just think his time has passed as to be our president and his ideals and ways of thinking are old. This is a new day and a new country that will need new thinking! Ya'll need to give this guys a chance because he can't do any worse than that Bush fellow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugshooter Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 You guys really needs to wise up! McCain has served his country well and we should never take anything from that! I just think his time has passed as to be our president and his ideals and ways of thinking are old. This is a new day and a new country that will need new thinking! Ya'll need to give this guys a chance because he can't do any worse than that Bush fellow! Are you serious? I am going to assume you are, so, if the others will allow me to have fun and take a stab at this one, I will. First of all, I don't think we NEEDS to wise up, because there is a lot more wisdom on these boards and in this room, that Barack Obama could only hope to have. Secondly, to say that someone's time has passed to be president, well, I can think of no one more prepared to serve, versus the alternative, who hasn't really accomplished anything, except to earn a law degree and promptly not use it for anything but mainly lecturing. Obama has accomplished several things though, he has associated himself with domestic terrorists, he also voted to allow babies that happened to be born during abortion procedures to still be terminated, which,in my opinion, and in any decent Americans opinion, should be regarded as murder. How is it that if you murder a woman who happens to be pregnant, you can be charged with two crimes, but the abortion doctor, who swore an oath to do no harm, is free to do basically the same thing? Thirdly, McCain's views, if you can consider them old and an old way of thinking. The root term of that issue is called, conservatism. Lastly, Obama's views and thinking are not knew. His ideals and idea's have been around for several years. They are called Communism and Socialism. If you want your taxes raised: Vote Obama. If you want tighter restrictions on guns (if you really are a hunter and gun owner): Vote Obama. If you want to communicate with terrorists and retreat from the fight: Vote Obama. If you want more jobs to go overseas: Vote Obama. If you want gas prices to go back up: Vote Obama. In short, cast your vote for whomever you choose. Just don't come back on here and cry so we don't have to tell you we told you so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierbuck Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Wise up? What the heck are you talking about? You are delusional in thinking "it" can't get worse in this country. Look at the "changes" I talked about above. The "chance" that Obama maybemightpossibly help make us a few extra dollars are not worth the certainty of the harm that he will wreak upon our nation. There is a lot more at stake than just a few years worth of tolerating some questionable policies. So, you think we should just chuck our nation and cares into the wind, and try something different just for the sake of trying something different. That is a crappy basis for making a decision of low importance, much less one of this significance. HB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 ...This is a new day and a new country that will need new thinking!...I would be very interested in hearing some examples of Obama's new ways of thinking. So far, all I've heard from him are the same tired old liberal espousing's from the 1960's and 70's. Throw in a healthy dose of Marxism and you've got 85% of Obama's core beliefs covered. BTW - Welcome to the forums. I hope you're here because you enjoy hunting, fishing and the outdoors, which is the main focus of this site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backwoods07 Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 You guys really needs to wise up! McCain has served his country well and we should never take anything from that! I just think his time has passed as to be our president and his ideals and ways of thinking are old. This is a new day and a new country that will need new thinking! Ya'll need to give this guys a chance because he can't do any worse than that Bush fellow! yaa, welcome to the forums...I'm sorry but I can't even take this post anywhere near to being serious. McCain won't be a good president because hes too old? Vote Obama because he can't be any worse than Bush? Really? That's your reasoning? I keep seeing the pattern of ignorance in Obama supporters. No offense to the Obama supporters that have some sense in what they are talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Go easy on the newbie eh guys.:D Welcome to the forums DaRancherBoy. Seriously a "chance" to see if the risks our nation faces put in the hands of a candidate who quite frankly is inexperienced is not a good move for this country at any point in time, much less at a time when it is so critical that we do have a leader with experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaRancherBoy Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Ok, calm down my fellow hunters! Let me clarify one thing when I say his time has passed, i'm talking about he should have won in 2000. Now i think it is too late! I love this site! Thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierbuck Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Glad you love the site. Still not even close to a rational basis for a vote of this much importance. HB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaRancherBoy Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 One more last things about my comments. I'm not saying he is too old but his way of way of thinking is! You have to admit Obama has built an organization around him that has redefined politics. Then now has pretty much shreaded the old thinking of the GOP. I never get into the "left" vs "right" or "conservative" vs "liberal" because that is just like a bunch of divisive crack I really avoid because it is just BACKWARDS. I know you are not ready but guess what? "Obama will be your next President!" Really! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierbuck Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Be careful what you wish for. He may be our next president, but that doesn't mean you will like what you get when you open that shiny package to find out what is inside. Can I ask how old you are? HB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 One more last things about my comments. I'm not saying he is too old but his way of way of thinking is! You have to admit Obama has built an organization around him that has redefined politics. Then now has pretty much shreaded the old thinking of the GOP. I never get into the "left" vs "right" or "conservative" vs "liberal" because that is just like a bunch of divisive crack I really avoid because it is just BACKWARDS. I know you are not ready but guess what? "Obama will be your next President!" Really! Guess what? Obama gets in we have a liberal controlled house, liberal controlled senate, and a liberal controlled presidential administration at the very least for two years. Whether you "get into" it or not, the liberals will have control to do as they wish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txsbuda Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 Great posts everyone. This is good stuff. It seems that DaRancherboy has found a hornets nest. Ok, let's say Obama wins. What do each of you plan to do? I have a few strong conservative friends at work who feel that this country is not headed in the direction they'd like it to. One has even said that he would rather move to Australia. Is that what half of this country is prepared to do? Obviously, I'm from Texas and this state is nothing but Red Meat, (at this time). It's probably going to be business as usual, but what about you guys that live in states that are about to turn. I can see you guys having more of a heck of a time with "change". I'm curious to see from them, and a lot of others if they are personally willing to cross party lines, to extend a hand across the isle, or are conservatives going to stubborn and resentful. We'll I'm on my way to the hunting camp to get lost in the wilderness. I guarantee you, I won't be thinking about taxes, terroists, jobs, or this election. I'm gone hunting. Out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 ...Can I ask how old you are? HB I'll go out on a limb and say not old enough to remember Jimmy Carter. Anyone who lived through that disaster can see the exact same scenario unfolding right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted October 29, 2008 Report Share Posted October 29, 2008 ... Ok, let's say Obama wins. What do each of you plan to do? ...I plan to keep doing the things I do now, like posting my conservative beliefs in this forum. At least until it gets shut down along with conservative talk radio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMort Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 So obama will be my next president? why won't he be yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 You guys really needs to wise up! McCain has served his country well and we should never take anything from that! I just think his time has passed as to be our president and his ideals and ways of thinking are old. This is a new day and a new country that will need new thinking! Ya'll need to give this guys a chance because he can't do any worse than that Bush fellow! He would do worse than Jimmy Carter who was the most ineffective president in history thus far. Young pups don't remember what our great country was like under Carter. Our military was a joke and was what gave the Muslim terrorist the belief that they can take us down in the first place. I wasn't very old, but can remember my aunt buying a new car at 18% interest and was glad it was so low. Obama will destroy our country if given the chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 One more last things about my comments. I'm not saying he is too old but his way of way of thinking is! You have to admit Obama has built an organization around him that has redefined politics. Then now has pretty much shreaded the old thinking of the GOP. I never get into the "left" vs "right" or "conservative" vs "liberal" because that is just like a bunch of divisive crack I really avoid because it is just BACKWARDS. I know you are not ready but guess what? "Obama will be your next President!" Really! Here is the basis behind this "old way of thinking". Everyone is responsible for themselves. If someone can't help themselves, help them. If you tax the guy who buys it, the tax gets paid once. By him. If you tax the guy who sells it, the tax gets paid three times. By the guy who sells it, the price goes up for the guy who buys it and he pays more taxes on it. If you tax the guy who makes it, the tax gets paid 4 times. First by the guy who made it, then he charges more to the guy who sells it, who the raises his price for the guy who buys it who has to pay even more taxes because the price is even higher. This is the democratic plan for trickle down economics. Obama does have a cult like following. So did Hitler, Stalin, Castro, Jim Jones, David Koresh ect................... He's not shredded anything, he's not come up with a single original idea. Name one. The Conservative/Liberal battle is a fight for the soul of our nation and many believe the prosperity and longevity of it. With the military the liberals would have us maintain, we would no longer be a "Super Power". We would have the all the clout in the world as Canada or Norway. Nothing against those places, but they hold no power in the world. Russia (USSR) was the longest lasting Communist nation in history and it collapsed. China is getting close, but aren't there (I believe) and they are changing because it's not working well for them. The democrats today are the socialist/communist party of the united states. If teachers were doing their jobs and teaching real history you young kids would have a little perspective on the world. As it stands you get a bunch of touchy feely crap all of your lives and believe "Change" is the heal all fix all. May God have mercy on us if Obama wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJL Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 This country is founded on sound Christian beliefs. All men are created equal. And we are endowed by our creator with certain unalieable rights. Among these are life, liberty. and the pursuit of happiness. O'Bama IS Muslim. He has admitted it in his book and has called himself a Muslim during National TV interviews. What part of having a person of Muslim faith in the White House leading to National Destruction, don't you Liberals understand? With Christian thinking Diversity builds strength. With Muslim thinking uniformity builds a lack of resistance........very similar to Communism. When you combine BHO's Socialist Political views with his Muslim Spiritual views, you're looking at a VERY messed up social mind. Then add in the fact that as a Human Being he's a complete DIRTBAG ( believe me, I'm originally from Illinois and watched the rise of BHO ), and you start to see a pattern that leads down a very dark path. If this guy gets into the most powerful office in the World, It's going to get REAL UGLY. Financially.........Socially............and Ethically this once great country will be destroyed. But, at least we'll all have Health Care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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