MichiganHunter Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 So I was watching a hunting show to day and i saw a common action among tv show hunts. This guy made a shot at a deer with a large rifle the deer ran out to about another 40 or 50 yards still with in his range and stood there for 10+ seconds and he never made an effort/attempt/interest to take another shoot at the buck. Now maybe it was the way I was taught but if you shoot an animal and it don't go straight down and you can take another aimed/safe shot at it, you shoot, even if you miss you take the opportunity for a aimed follow up shot because you owe it to the animal. This kind of bother anyone else, anyone else think that the second shot is unnecessary, Just let me know, Would like to see a good post about peoples thoughts. Lets talk this up a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michiganbowhunter_SQ2 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Did it eventually drop right there or did it run off? Doesn't bother me, unless the hunter KNOWS they made a bad shot the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNTINGMAN Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I truely beleive in putting down game as quick and human as possible,but if I know I made a good clean shot I am not takeing another and ruin more meat.It is just as unethicle wasteing meat as it is not dispatching the animal as soon as possible,but if ther is any doubt about shot placement then I will follow up with another as soon as a quality shot presents itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelund79 Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Shoot until its down seems more like public hunting logic than anything else. Hunting shows are on LARGE tracts of private land without alot of pressure to get your deer down and found before someone else does...my 2 cents Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowtechTurkeyHunter Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I guess it doesn't bother me its no different then if you shoot a whitetail with a bow and you he takes 5 steps and stands there as blood pours out both lungs I would not take a second shot on him with a bow especially when I am positive I made a good shot. I do understand the way you were taught and don't think there is anything wrong with your thinking either I just think you can do it both ways and be ok. Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganHunter Posted October 30, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 Shoot until its down seems more like public hunting logic than anything else. Hunting shows are on LARGE tracts of private land without alot of pressure Well do you have 3 or 4 thousand acre? I don't about 300 or so but I still take that second shot....We owe it to the animal to dispatch it as quick as possible don't you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
007hunter Posted October 30, 2008 Report Share Posted October 30, 2008 I can't even think of a time when an animal I've shot has given me a chance to take another shot, either with rifle or bow...an ethical shot that is. Sure I could've unloaded my gun at them as they ran. In fact if he animal I shot at only ran 40 yds I'd think I missed. I can see where your coming from though, yet I can see the other side too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 With an ethical well placed shot a deer will go down in 5-10 seconds or less. I am typically a one shot kind of guy, can think of only two deer out of many that I have ever shot twice, one of them was when I was early on into hunting with a bad shot and I had to put the deer down, the other I was not positive about the shot and I took a follow up shot on the deer as it was running off, that shot turned out not to be necessary and the follow up actually hit the deer in the spine and wasted some of the backstraps. If I see the deer stop or walk and it is pretty apparent it is going down, then I see no point in potentially ruining more meat. Guess I would have to see the show to know where you are coming from though. On the flipside of this, you oughta come around here when gun season opens, it seriously sounds like a warzone on our rifle opener. Think most of the people around us do unload their rifles, kind of rare to hear just one shot from the guys hunting directly behind us. Kind of scarey really.:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Shot #1, if the animal does not go down, I am ready to shoot until the magazine is empty! I do NOT believe in this garbage that I did a PERFECT hit the first time! If you did, the animal would be on the ground! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Maybe they are watching the animal to see it's reaction to the shot?, or they want the animal to go down on camera and take only one shot to have that happen?, or they have been trained not to shoot without regards to checking for a safe backround first before slinging lead with reckless abandon? The first reason I offerred I think we all do to some point and thier caught up in the adrenaline filled moment. The second reason we may actually be the cause of to a point. Honestly it's entirely possible they wait because thier concerned that they would be villified for not taking a good first shot. If thier hesitation has anything to do with the last statement it's probably a direct result of a hunters safety program somewhere. I dont believe you'll ever see someone who has made a marginal shot allow the animal to suffer on camera without taking a follow-up shot. I also do not believe you would see it on TV if they did. They know full well they would be crucified if they allowed that to happen. If what they did bothers you enough simply contact them since just about everyone has a website or an email in the credits of thier show these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tink Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 TV Shots :eek:TV shot are some of the worst shots and poor shooters i have ever seen. A second shot in the ribs does not waste meat. TV Ethics leave a lot to be desired Tink:eek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 I truely beleive in putting down game as quick and human as possible,but if I know I made a good clean shot I am not takeing another and ruin more meat.It is just as unethicle wasteing meat as it is not dispatching the animal as soon as possible,but if ther is any doubt about shot placement then I will follow up with another as soon as a quality shot presents itself. Ditto Plus, I think as you become a more seasoned hunter, you learn to read the body language better on a mortally hit deer as compared to a wounded deer. I don't want to waste any meat any more than I want the animal to suffer needlessly. I'm always ready for that second shot, with a gun, but don't take it, unless I see something that prompts me to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazylegz70 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 If this gives you insight into what I think.... I shot a button buck tonight with my bow. Lets just say that I had to take another $15 shot just to put it down (we dont need details, but I shot him high in the spine the first shot) I think the least we can do is put the animal down as quick as possible... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washi Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 If there is any doubt as to whether or not I made a good shot the first time I will send a follow up shot. If I know I made a good shot the first time I leave it alone. An extra hole through the heart and lungs will not make the deer die faster than the first one. In fact from what I have seen a deer that is shot at only once will go down quicker than one that someone keeps shooting at. The only reason I've been able to think of is that it keeps them from slowing down or even stopping like single shot deer sometimes do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swamphunter Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 I personally would follow it up with another shot. Just to prevent that last burst of energy where a deer runs 150 yards, through some wetlands and then lose the blood trail to never be found again. What DOES irk me though is when they have a deer walk in, stand perfectly broadside, its head down browsing, and they grunt or bleat at it to get it to full attention (to display the antlers before shooting I believe), then fire the shot. All this does is take a perfectly relaxed, unaware animal, and put it on edge and make it more alert. For a rifle hunter, not that big of a deal, to an archer though.... now the deer is more apt to jump the string. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob LeBlanc Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 Any animal on the ground, is worth 20 in the bush! If presented a second shot, I take it! Whether the first was a good shot or not, I'd rather know that the animal is retrievable, right away, than depend on tracking or somehow otherwise locating a wounded deer. A lung shot deer can still travel a fair distance...and they will hide in holes where a rabbit couldn't go. My hunting partner lost his deer last year for that very reason. It was DOWN but was thrashing, and rather than shoot it again, he waited, expecting it to expire. The deer thrashed itself right back up onto its own hooves, and was GONE. Tons of blood where it went down...only occasional drops 30 yards away. I'm an experienced tracker...but that trail petered out too quickly, and the deer was lost. He kind'a got a tongue-lashing over that one:mad:...but he'll never do it again! Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 I can't honestly say that I've ever seen that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjam5 Posted October 31, 2008 Report Share Posted October 31, 2008 You owe it to the animal to be as proficient as you can be with the weapon of choice. Make that 1st shot count. My 1st deer I ever shot( forkhorn) took 3 shots to put it down. I hit it, it kicked...ran 30 yards and stopped. I shot it again, it ran right towards me and stopped when it saw me. I put it down with a neck shot. I hit it all 3 times and all of this happened in about 10 seconds. Adrenaline on both ends. Since then, a deer has never given me a chance to shoot it twice. Bow or gun. I have recovered every deer I have shot. Bow or gun. My 1st deer was the only one I ever had to shoot more than once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elkoholic Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 Too many different scenarios for there to be one answer. I have never, in forty plus years of hunting, shot a deer twice. Shooting a mortally hit deer again is not going to cause a more humane death and, in fact, there would be more trauma from the second bullet/arrow impact. On the other hand, another shot into a marginally hit animal would be a good thing, and if you are not sure of shot placement, a follow-up shot, if possible, sure wouldn't hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted November 1, 2008 Report Share Posted November 1, 2008 I've never had the opportunity for a followup shot. I suppose if I thought it might not have been a good hit I would put another one in it. If it's walking around with blood pouring out I don't see any point in doing something that would make it run off. I'd much rather see it lay down and expire peacefully than run 300 yards after a second shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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