Our new President

[Tominator]

Why is this thread in the lounge? We have a political room for all this to happen in ... you want to vent about the election go there and do it I purposely stay away from that room to not have to read all the rants about the elections ...

Im actually shocked that these threads havent been moved yet.

Steve

Yep, it's close to being moved, but since it was a general election of national interest, personally, I think it can stay. The other lounge mods may feel otherwise and move it which is perfectly fine with me.

[jm23494]

It was disappointing to wake up this morning and see the overall electoral college results. When I went digging around and saw how close the popular vote was it started to make me feel better. I'm hoping that there will be enough checks and balances in our government that will allow us to live our lives as we are today. Granted we may be taxed more or less but hopefully our quality of life will remain as is. There are rights that people died to protect ever since our contries inception and I find it hard to believe (at least I hope) that one single man can change that.

[Strut10]

I find it funny how the country is split right on the borders of the civil war. Anyone else notice that?

And the irony of that is that the Republican party was borne of the Civil War. The Republicans were the party of abolition. Now all the Union states vote democrat and all the Confederate states vote democrat. Go figger.

It's the end of the world as we know it.............................

[Rhino]

That pretty much sums up my feelings.

[Strut10]

there is still the Supreme Court to go to if he begins going against the Constitution and denying us our Constitutional rights. I do not care how liberal Congress is either, IMO, I do not believe that they will let Obama change the basic rights listed in the Bill of Rights, or any of the amendments for that matter.

You mean like the Fairness Doctrine and the Clinton Assault Weapons Ban????

You're talking about a current Supreme Court that granted terrorists the same right at trial as you and I and the court that only upheld the 2nd Ammendment by one vote. Wait until old Barry appoints Hillary Klinton and Charles Scumer as our next two Supreme Court justices.

Wake up, people!!! This guy is not like anyone that's ever sat at the wheel of this nation.......ever.

[muzzy916]

im 21 and voted for mcCain and palin. i belive the world is screwed. he is going to take aways our military and his best friends are going to have a hay day with it(2 of his best friends are terrorist) god help us all.

[DocMort]

One thing you can all bet on is that the minute he starts talking about gun bans and everything else, somone is going to get fed up. This is America, born out of christianity not the muslim faith. We were founded on sound principles such as honor thy neighbor, take a kid hunting all that hoopla. I can promise you that most of my brethren in the Army voted McCain, they voted for someone who they felt like they could salute and who could lead this great country. I know now that most if not all of my guys who are up for reenlistment will not forego that option and get out of this countries military due to poor choices by the blinded liberal citizens.

[BowtechTurkeyHunter]

Yep, it's close to being moved, but since it was a general election of national interest, personally, I think it can stay. The other lounge mods may feel otherwise and move it which is perfectly fine with me.

Yep until ppl start putting there opinions in there then it changes from about the elections to opinions ... thats when it crosses the line.

Steve

[RangerClay]

Buckee you got any room up there for me? Im ready to hightail it outta here!!!!!!!

Funny, I heard all of the Lib's crying this after the last election. Let's not stoop to their level and start moaning like them. Yes, (after the inauguration), for the first time in modern history, the serving Canadian Prime Minister will be more right wing than the serving President of the United States. We have gotten soft and have forgotten how to fight the Dem's. We need to get our friends and fellow gun owners off the couch and be prepared to put up a united front if we are going to keep or be able to afford our guns.

Hopefully this may cheer you up. http://sagebrushpatriot.com/america.htm

[wtnhunt]

Yep until ppl start putting there opinions in there then it changes from about the elections to opinions ... thats when it crosses the line.

Steve

Several threads running in the political room already Steve. Really makes no difference to me whether it is here or there, but kind of think venting being in the lounge is ok. When it gets to debating topics or issues it would then be better suited in the political room.

Also agree with Chris on the language and some of the suggestions, keep it clean where ever the posts are at.

[muggs]

Man...do I hate politics.

The guy hasn't even taken office yet, let's settle down. Just cause a black guy is in office, doesn't mean you'll lose your guns and every black person in this country is going to get handouts. Those that get the handouts have been getting them for years, regardless of their color.

The sky is not falling. Hug your wife and kids, focus on what matters and what you can control and take the perverbial chill pill. This type of reaction is bordering on lunacy.

I just hope Obama handles the Iraq situation correctly. He plans to draw troops from Iraq and move them to Afganistan. We need more troops there, that's for sure, but not at the expense of losing what is being built in Iraq. I guess it's pick your poison though, the military just does not have the #s to support two fronts.

[Strut10]

Yes, (after the inauguration), for the first time in modern history, the serving Canadian Prime Minister will be more right wing than the serving President of the United States.

........and France.

What a proud day to be an American.

[Strut10]

Just cause a black guy is in office, doesn't mean you'll lose your guns and every black person in this country is going to get handouts. Those that get the handouts have been getting them for years, regardless of their color.

Has nothing to do with him being a black man. Has everything to do with him being a Marxist.

I would have proudly voted for an Alan Keyes/Walter Williams type of man.

[Guest Andrea]

Man...do I hate politics.

The guy hasn't even taken office yet, let's settle down. Just cause a black guy is in office, doesn't mean you'll lose your guns and every black person in this country is going to get handouts. Those that get the handouts have been getting them for years, regardless of their color.

The sky is not falling. Hug your wife and kids, focus on what matters and what you can control and take the perverbial chill pill. This type of reaction is bordering on lunacy.

I just hope Obama handles the Iraq situation correctly. He plans to draw troops from Iraq and move them to Afganistan. We need more troops there, that's for sure, but not at the expense of losing what is being built in Iraq. I guess it's pick your poison though, the military just does not have the #s to support two fronts.

Don't see what his color of skin has to do with anything. Had McCain been black and Obama white..............I would have voted for McCain..........

HOWEVER, that being said..............I have a feeling McCain would have won if he'd been black. Regardless of what he stood for...........

[wtnhunt]

Don't see what his color of skin has to do with anything. Had McCain been black and Obama white..............I would have voted for McCain..........

HOWEVER, that being said..............I have a feeling McCain would have won if he'd been black. Regardless of what he stood for...........

Very sad truth, but I think Andrea is probably right here.:(

[Gator]

Don't see what his color of skin has to do with anything. Had McCain been black and Obama white..............I would have voted for McCain..........

HOWEVER, that being said..............I have a feeling McCain would have won if he'd been black. Regardless of what he stood for...........

We already KNOW that is half the reason Obama won, look at what Howard Stern did. For me, skin color had NOTHING to do with it, it's what he STANDS for that bothers me

[Tominator]

We already KNOW that is half the reason Obama won, look at what Howard Stern did. For me, skin color had NOTHING to do with it, it's what he STANDS for that bothers me

LOL, well, yeah.

Here's a good couple cliches for everyone. Misery loves company and y'all are preaching to the choir.

It's no secret this forum is 99.9% Republican, conservative, so why is everyone whining?

[Jeramie]

So is it to early to go get my money out of the bank and stand on the corner giving it away? Or perhaps I should just mail in my life savings to the govt. so some illeagal can have a good life.

At least you would know where it was going....

Oh and Jeramie...you better protect your avatar's gun.

Dont worry, its not registered. :cool:

[muggs]

I voted for McCain, but what exactly about his platform do you consider "Marxist?"

I'll agree his approach to "sharing the wealth" can be distorted as socialist, but after all, the US has by far the most marginalized distribution of wealth with the richest 1% of the population accounting for 90 some odd % of the wealth. Now, I don't know how many billionaires frequent these boards, but his tax platform won't affect me as much as you guys.

The gun control thing has me concerned, that's for sure. But do I see that impacting my recreation...no. I don't think he'll take away the 2nd Amendment and even though the house has gone Dem as well, I just don't see it happening. At least not fully enough to go run and buy guns. If I can't own at AR-15, I'm okay with that too.

What I'm saying is, the sky is not falling. You guys are attacking like the Russians just invaded.

Edited November 5, 2008 by muggs

[Guest Andrea]

Valid reasons to be concerned here.............you must not have seen my post in the political forum........the Muslims are rejoicing over this election. Just take a look at their website. And yes, Obama is against guns, and not just the assault rifles. ALL guns.

[muggs]

Valid reasons to be concerned here.............you must not have seen my post in the political forum........the Muslims are rejoicing over this election. Just take a look at their website. And yes, Obama is against guns, and not just the assault rifles. ALL guns.

The Catholics rejoiced when JFK was elected. And it's okay for a Muslim to celebrate, they don't all hijack planes.

Can you guys provide me with any evidence that he is against all guns? And I'm not talking about the NRA smear propoganda either- I mean, like actual evidence.

I don't think we'll lose our guns, or the ability to buy guns.

[Adjam5]

The Catholics rejoiced when JFK was elected. And it's okay for a Muslim to celebrate, they don't all hijack planes.

Can you guys provide me with any evidence that he is against all guns? And I'm not talking about the NRA smear propoganda either- I mean, like actual evidence.

I don't think we'll lose our guns, or the ability to buy guns.

No they don't all hijack planes, but they are Muslim the ones that do and they are in the 19-44 year old demograph that fits.

This country was based on Christianity.

Obama has said it in his speeches that

"just because you have a right to bear arms, don't mean that common sense restrictions cannot be placed on them"

Common sense? Whose common sense?

Also you won't lose your ability to buy guns...there will just be a 1000% tax on the them to fund all the people who healing from gunshot wounds and suing gun manufacturers. Like Obama voted in favor for. Check the record.

He has voted against EVERY piece of pro gun legislation that has ever been introduced during his illustrious career as a Senator. Go check his record on gun issues. I did.

The future looks grim for gun owners and hunters.

How many votes do you think Obama got from hunters and shooters? Very small.

How many Obama supporters do you think live OUR lifestyle of hunting and shooting? Even smaller.

The people Osama will be catering to are not sportsmen and outdoors types. They live in inner city, urban areas, in states that have the electoral votes needed to get the Supreme handout commander in office.

Edited November 5, 2008 by Adjam5

[wtnhunt]

The Catholics rejoiced when JFK was elected. And it's okay for a Muslim to celebrate, they don't all hijack planes.

Can you guys provide me with any evidence that he is against all guns? And I'm not talking about the NRA smear propoganda either- I mean, like actual evidence.

I don't think we'll lose our guns, or the ability to buy guns.

Look at his voting record Eric. Pretty clear where he stands on the issue of gun control. This site seemed to have some good quotes as well, with sources you can check out.

[jbeck]

Boy was this interesting reading, some really good comments and arguements going on. My opinion is this, if america wants this president which it obiviously does, then if I want to continue to be an american he is now my president. I didn't vote for him last night, but I prayed for him this morning.

Sorry guys, but nothing happens that God the Father doesn't have laid out, and that is one guy I'm not willing to question. I'll just go along with what he feels is best and talk to him with my concerns, let face it as much as I love the people in here, ya'll can't do a lot with the current situation.

I hope I don't get hammered for this, but if I do I do. Obama was elected in the greatest democracy in the world. The views that voted him in I don't share, but my presidents have been in for a while now and the problem I see isn't the presidents, it's the people. JMO

For those that need to vent, please continue.

Have a great day.

Jeff

[muggs]

No they don't all hijack planes, but they are Muslim the ones that do and they are in the 19-44 year old demograph that fits.

Your perspective is so limited it's frightening.

This country was based on Christianity.[

No. It is based on the idea that a person who lives here is free to believe in whatever religion they so choose. Whether you like it or not. Did Muslims attack the World Trade Center, they certainly did. Does that make all Muslims terrorists, it certainly does not. Heck, you ever hear of the Crusades? Seems like those Christians were out for blood on Muslim soil, still can't figure out why they don't like us. Ah, they just must be jealous. Yeah, that's the ticket.

How many votes do you think Obama got from hunters and shooters? Very small.

How many Obama supporters do you think live OUR lifestyle of hunting and shooting? Even smaller.

You're probably right. What I'm saying is the things you hear from the NRA aren't the truth- best keep paying those dues though. All the information we get is filtered. (Like that website William- that really doesn't seem to be unbiased).

Obama voted along party lines, which is what every Senator does. Take for example Amendment 1615 to S. 397 which was proposed by Kennedy() to expand the definition of armor piercing ammunition (this failed). Obama did vote for this, but does that mean he's agains "all" guns? Or does it mean he doesn't see a need for ammunitions that can piece armor to be sold to everyday citizens? By the way, it was based on this vote that the NRA distorted as Obama's desire to "ban all deer hunting ammunition."

I'm not saying some gun policies won't change under Obama (and I am a little nervous about it). what I am saying is that this type of knee-jerk reaction isn't warranted or based on fact and we should just all settle down.