dbHunterNY Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 I've got a Remington 742 and I'm looking to get a new rifle. My dad has a Remington 7600 that seems pretty good for everything and yet accurate for a pump action. I know it has a factory free floated barrel. I was thinking about getting one of these or getting a bolt action. I was looking at the Remington Model 700 VTR it's average weight to carry around, not a long "bean field" rifle to be carrying through woods. I think the 22" triangular barrel and muzzle break seem cool.LOL For an $800 rifle is it that accurate? Can anyone give some feedback on this 700 vtr? - Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hangunnr Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 From what I've heard they are typical Remington for accuracy, read that as good. I've looked at one of these and for the life of me I can't see how the muzzle brake would work. The muzzle is back bored, set back about an inch from the end of the barrel. There are three slots then cut into the top of the barrel. This won't work as a brake as the exit hole is the same size as the back bored section. If the back bored section was restricted back down to just over bullet diameter it would work as an expansion chamber and then would function as a brake. For what they're wanting for one I'd opt for a standard model and spend the extra coin on optics or ammo. If you're wanting something different then this rifle fits the bill. Is it worth it.......that's hard to say.... hangunnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaCoyote Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 I've heard it's very loud too. Thought about one myself for a coyote rifle but probably wont get one. That said I hear they have a non ported model, but can't find it on the website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeramie Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Im betting loud is an understatement! That being said, they should be a good rifle. Most 700 models are. I agree with Hangunnr, id look more toward the standard 700 and blow the extra coin on a good Nikon scope, unless youre just wanting something different. If thats the angle you would probably be in good shape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 ...I've looked at one of these and for the life of me I can't see how the muzzle brake would work. The muzzle is back bored, set back about an inch from the end of the barrel. There are three slots then cut into the top of the barrel. This won't work as a brake as the exit hole is the same size as the back bored section. If the back bored section was restricted back down to just over bullet diameter it would work as an expansion chamber and then would function as a brake...Isn't that the same principle that muzzle brakes on artillery use? Of course a lot of those may be smooth bores. I have no idea why it's done that way, but I assume it works???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csualumni21000 Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 Muzzle brakes work but you need ear pro when shooting. Get a 700 and be done with it. Odds are you will not be more accurate than your rifle. Get quality base, rings and glass. A trigger job would be the next thing to get done. Hunting rifles dont need sub moa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davetucker Posted November 9, 2008 Report Share Posted November 9, 2008 I have a new 700xcr 300wsm RMEF!!I took it to the range and it had great shooting accuracy!! The range however only has 90yrd range!I sat it up 2 inches high at that range!!Well yesterday we took a short lunch brake and found a spot we could take a 300 yrd shot!!The target we had and the set up was crappy!!Well needless to say i'm glad i never seen anything shootable yesterday!!I never even hit at 300 so i moved to 100 and was high!!The target was small and i was shakey!!I will go to the range at lunch tomorrow!!!Am having high hopes it was me rushing the shots and not adding in the 2 inches high!!Overall the 700's are a great smooth shooting rifle!!It topped off with a nikon prostaff it should work good!!(I think yesterday was all me)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hangunnr Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Isn't that the same principle that muzzle brakes on artillery use? Of course a lot of those may be smooth bores. I have no idea why it's done that way, but I assume it works???? I don't know exactly what the military is using. To my understanding if there isn't some form of restriction after the expansion chamber on a comp it won't work very well. You want the high pressure gasses to vent out the ports and not follow the bullet out. The Rem. VRT brake dosen't have a restriction after the expansion chamber so it wouldn't be very effective. Every muzzle brake I have has a restriction after the chamber. While the Rem VTR "brake" may look kewl it won't offer real recoil reduction. hangunnr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleA Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 Here's a nice example of a brake that Handgunner is talking about. This was a still from a video I took yesterday of myself shooting my 50 BMG, not great quality but you can see the flames and gases being vented out the left and right side of the brake. I am still trying to figure out how to get the video from the camera to the net. You can really see what goes on when the trigger is pulled in super slow motion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 10, 2008 Report Share Posted November 10, 2008 I am still trying to figure out how to get the video from the camera to the net. You can really see what goes on when the trigger is pulled in super slow motion. You will have to save the video clip in an uploadable format, then upload it to a hosting site like photobucket or youtube. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbHunterNY Posted November 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 11, 2008 Thanks for the input guys... After looking into the VTR I've decided it's not really the rifle I wanted for a multipurpose hunting rifle. I will admit it would turn heads and look cool though. The added noise and some other stuff turned me off. I ended up going with a different rifle for it's features relevant to what I'd use it for. I ended up getting a Browning A-bolt II with a walnut stock, stainless barrel, and Nikon Prostaff scope. Some features like a removable clip, short-throw bolt, and just the overall feel and finish was what sold me. I took it out and it seemed to be very accurate too. Thanks Again for the input, Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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