hutchies Posted November 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 I don't like Mathews grips either...........good thing is you can take them off and change them for about $40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruttinbuc Posted November 23, 2008 Report Share Posted November 23, 2008 I don't like Mathews grips either...........good thing is you can take them off and change them for about $40 For the price of their bows they could and should give you a custom fit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted November 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 If only it were that easy.............don't worry I don't discriminate I hated the wood grip on my Hoyt Vtec as well. Some other bows I don't like the grip on either................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illinois59 Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 I love my SQ2. Why would i change? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 You guys can keep all your Mathews. http://www.hoyt.com/compound_bows/hoyt_alpha_max35_compound_bow.php That baby right there will be on order sometime. She is a sweet looking bow. Dad is going to flip I got 4 right now that'lll make 5.LOL Atta Boy!!! I will be buying the Hoyt Katera. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig mack Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 No of those make me want to get rid of my XT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrelhunter91 Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 I shot the Reezen 7.0 last Saturday and man does it make me want to stick with my DXT. I didn't like the handshock at all or the jump at the shot. My DXT doesn't even jump that much and its way lighter! The Hoyt Alphamax bows look like the bows to have this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted December 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 Joe more than likely that bow wasn't in tune........I've shot several Reezens already and at one shop it felt like it had alot of vibration but no hand shock. The other shop had it tuned though and I felt very little vibration and no hand shock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidd Posted December 16, 2008 Report Share Posted December 16, 2008 i never thought i would shoot a better bow then the SQ2 but then i upgraded to the switchback and that is a sweet bow man oh man... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Joe more than likely that bow wasn't in tune........I've shot several Reezens already and at one shop it felt like it had alot of vibration but no hand shock. The other shop had it tuned though and I felt very little vibration and no hand shock. Exactly. The bow was probably wasn't in tune. I haven't had a chance to shoot a Reezen yet, and don't want to until next spring. But, I do expect some vibration/shock. That is to be expected on a bow that fast. The Reezen's are close to 15-20 FPS faster than most single cam bows. I know there was a noticeable difference between an Outback and my Switchback when I first shot them. The Switchback had slightly more shock and vibration, and it is ~10 FPS faster. I'm expecting more shock and vibration with a Reezen, but I think it will go away once tuned and the speed is back down to the 275-280 FPS range with a heavier arrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VtBowhunter Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 I was shocked when I heard Mathews was putting out a cam 1/2 bow. I remember them saying that dual and cam 1/2 bows were not trustworthy and nobody should ever shoot anything but solo-cams. Now we all know that was just business and advertsing, but it does seem like back peddling. As for the new bows.......5" brace height.....WOW!!!!! I hope the folks that buy this get themselves a titanium armguard, LMAO. That's not going to be very forgiving, but I bet folks with great form will love it. I'll stick with my Vectrix and maybe get a Katera or the newest Hoyt for 09. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoyt fanatic Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Ill stick with my Hoyt Avenger. Probably get a Katera in a month or so but my Avenger does everything I need it to. I like the feel of the grip on the Mathews DXT but the bows just look skeletonized. Plus, I could buy an Alphamax for what my shop is selling DXTs for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted December 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 I was shocked when I heard Mathews was putting out a cam 1/2 bow. I remember them saying that dual and cam 1/2 bows were not trustworthy and nobody should ever shoot anything but solo-cams. Now we all know that was just business and advertsing, but it does seem like back peddling. Sales, Sales, and Sales...........if you notice though those are called the McPherson series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruttinbuc Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 McPherson...isn't that Mathew's last name?Did he not run off on his own with his father's mindset?.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjam5 Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 McPherson...isn't that Mathew's last name?Did he not run off on his own with his father's mindset?.... Yup, and he really got into making custom guitars. http://mcphersonguitars.com/acoustic-guitars-973.asp I even believe he bought back his own name to make bows with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michiganbowhunter_SQ2 Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 I even believe he bought back his own name to make bows with. Yep, and that is the line the new "Monster" bows are under. "Mathews Mcpherson series Monster" and "Monster XLR8." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Matt McPherson made one of the fastest dual cam bows, the Eliminator I think, back in 1988. I said it before, and I guess I have to say it again. If you take the time to read some of the articles and watch the video interview with Matt, you'll know why Mathews created the "McPherson Series" with dual cams. The single cam is still much more consistent, but McPherson knew he could make a better dual cam bow than what was already on the market. Mathews listened to their customers. People are wanting fast bows. So, they made two of the fastest single cam bows on the market and two bows that have amazing speed. The McPherson Series will help get some of the shooters who wouldn't shoot a Mathews because they didn't have any true "speed bows". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultratec1 Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 I have taken the time to listen the what Matt has to say and it still doesnt change the fact that they called a dual cam junk. If you want I can find the interview with Dave Watson where it states this, he did the interview FOR MATHEWS. Irregardless if Matt made it with the McPhearson name it is still a Mathews bow. He has said it and I will try to post an article straight from the cats mouth (Matt) where he stated the dual cam debate. If you really want to split hairs take a PSE X-Force and "McMathews" Monster and lay them on top of each other and tell me what Matt did that was so innovative. I will say that the thing that I'm very impressed with is the Reezen bows. Anytime you can make a SOLOCAM bow that fast is a very impressive feat. I really think that this whole speed deal has been blown way outta portion. I'm going to say that way over half of the hunting community can not shoot a 5" BH bow proficiently. I will probably get slammed for this post and told that I'm bashing but you dress up a goat but its still a goat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csualumni21000 Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 The reason for the new line is to increase revenue. They will do what it takes to sell them. You do the math. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michiganbowhunter_SQ2 Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 I have taken the time to listen the what Matt has to say and it still doesnt change the fact that they called a dual cam junk. If you want I can find the interview with Dave Watson where it states this, he did the interview FOR MATHEWS. Irregardless if Matt made it with the McPhearson name it is still a Mathews bow. He has said it and I will try to post an article straight from the cats mouth (Matt) where he stated the dual cam debate. Post away. It means nothing anyways. They were promoting their SOLOCAM line, of course they are going to try and make them look better. If you were building and selling one thing, would you not say how much better it is that the other products on the same market? I also find it hard to believe they came right out and said "duel cam is junk," I'm betting they came out and gave a few reasons on how or why a single cam is better than the duel cam. But even if they did, it still doesn't change the fact that they were still trying to sell a one cam product. Of course it is still a Mathews bow, no one is denying that...BUT McPhersonis a new series/line...Like the Mathews SOLOCAM, is a series or line...the Mathews "McPherson" is now a new line. Good ahead and post the video or article this was said in, like I said, 4-5 years later...it means nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shorty785 Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 I'll be sticking with my DXT. i agree with you there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 If you really want to split hairs take a PSE X-Force and "McMathews" Monster and lay them on top of each other and tell me what Matt did that was so innovative. There is a lot more to a bow than it's looks. The Monster has a different cam system. And, I'd be willing to bet the Monster is much more efficient than the PSE X-Force. Here is, again, why Mathews created a dual cam bow. This time in text, so nothing is missed... http://mathewsinc.com/index.asp?pageID=innovation&CompID=56&btnSubmit=ByFileCategoryID&cboFileCategoryID=11352 Why Did Mathews Make a Dual Cam Bow? Simple… we realized we could raise the bar! With the advent of our new Advanced Vectoring System (AVS) Mathews now builds the fastest most efficient dual cam bows ever tested! Maybe there is something to this efficiency thing I said above. I guess there is more to a bow than looks. No doubt Mathews will continue to make their mark with single cam bows. But, if you can improve on something your competition is doing, why not give it a try? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted December 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Who cares? Bow companies follow each other on what works all he time................If it sells they redesign another companies bow and say it's better. Personally whatever fits in my hand the best is what I am shooting whether it be PSE, Mathews, Hoyt, Bowtech, Diamond, Browing, Bear, Onieda, or whatever. End of story............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Who cares? Bow companies follow each other on what works all he time................If it sells they redesign another companies bow and say it's better. Personally whatever fits in my hand the best is what I am shooting whether it be PSE, Mathews, Hoyt, Bowtech, Diamond, Browing, Bear, Onieda, or whatever. End of story............ YEP,, I totally agree .. My Alpine was a great little bow, I bought my Hoyt just because it felt good in my hand, and I didn't have to special order it .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rackmaster Posted December 24, 2008 Report Share Posted December 24, 2008 I shot the reezon yesterday, just the bare bow, and was not impressed at all. Fast yes, but a lot of vibration. If you get a chance pick one up and give it a try you' ll see what i mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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