Adjam5 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 I don't care whose feathers I ruffle with this, as long it ain't a mod or Admins feathers:D I have been seeing a few banners of people on here with "Obama for sportsmen" on and truthfully it makes me sick. People who think Obama is for Sportsmen are the same people who will help take our gun and hunting rights away by supporting BHO. Have they forgotten "bitter people cling to guns and religion"? Or how about he voted against EVERY piece of PRO GUN legislation that ever passed his desk. Every gun ban, every bullet ban, every confiscation scheme the libs could concoct he was there to vote YES on. Clinton, Shumer,Biden, Kennedy all of the Gun ban buddies he surrounds himself with. You are good as the people who you stay with, and I know what I think of the aforementioned Senators. Patooey! Just watch how hard and expensive it will get for hunters and shooters in the future. If you support BHO, you support gun bans, registration and confiscation. His history is clear on that subject. You know he is NOT from a hunting/shooting/military family, so what love does he have for people who support that? I am not going by opinion, I am going by BHO voting record while he held public office. Thats how I judge what a candidate is made of. At least John Kerry TRIED to gain some phony support by donning orange and a side by side. This guy BHO, made no public statements regarding support of shooting or hunting, only negative comments and we have a group of people who say " BHO for sportsmen" These are the hunters and shooters that just don't get it and will be dragged out by the LIBS saying" See... he is a hunter and he agrees with our stances". OR... "Well, I don't have a AR15 or AK so I don't care, or I think hi cap mags should be banned no hunter uses them" What a Joke. I have 11 more years to retire, good Lord willing, and I get out of this LIBERAL cesspool state I was born in and get to a more hunter/shooter/tough on crime state...Like Texas:D I loved it when I was there and will go back. No matter WHO the President is...that state among others will ALWAYS be conservative. Sorry I ranted, but it bothered me ...like broccoli gas:p. I feel better now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Afraid you will not see any arguments/debate based on facts in Obama's defense on those topics by the Obama for sportsman banner flyers Anthony. Opinions so long as they are not baseless or bashing in manner are always welcomed here and rants based on factual content and debate are also also fine to express. The Brady folks have expectations of Obama's promises. No great secret where the libs including Pelosi(speaker of the house)stand on issues we feel so strongly about. I think we are in for a very rough time ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 ...I have 11 more years to retire, good Lord willing, and I get out of this LIBERAL cesspool state I was born in and get to a more hunter/shooter/tough on crime state...Like Texas:D I loved it when I was there and will go back. No matter WHO the President is...that state among others will ALWAYS be conservative... Come on down. We always welcome new neighbors. Especially the ones that show up with a rifle or shotgun in their hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 I have 11 more years to retire, good Lord willing, and I get out of this LIBERAL cesspool state I was born in and get to a more hunter/shooter/tough on crime state...Like Texas:D I loved it when I was there and will go back. No matter WHO the President is...that state among others will ALWAYS be conservative. You can't go wrong by moving to Texas.........hopefully I can make my way back there one of these days. I agree with you 100% on BHO......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 It's cheaper to retire in Arkansas. We have bigger deer, more public land than Texas, and voted for McCain too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Oh yeah, and to comment on the original point of the thread... I think there are only two types of "Sportsmen for Obama." The true sportsmen who have been deceived into thinking that Obama will do them no harm, and the fake sportsmen who care more about partisan politics than they do about our outdoor heritage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhine16 Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Awe now... Sure you don't want one of these for your signature. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D I'm with you 110%. I couldn't believe there was even such a thing as "sportsmen for Obama" BTW- I think you'll be alright anywhere in the southeast if you want to move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 BTW- I think you'll be alright anywhere in the southeast if you want to move Don't know Rhine, might want to look at the ammo confiscation thread. Mississippi is on that list too.:eek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 we're in for a tough few years. it will be an interesting campaign year in 3 years... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Finn Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 The union put those "Sportsmen for Nobama" flyers up at work, and people actually believe that crud. Morons...not fun morons with 2000 posts, actual morons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 The union put those "Sportsmen for Nobama" flyers up at work, and people actually believe that crud. Morons...not fun morons with 2000 posts, actual morons was it "sportsmen for nobama" or "obama"? i like the "nobama". these are sportsmen who did not want obama for obvious reasons. but the sportsmen for obama are a group in denial... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Maybe we can all just stick our heads in the sand and hide from reality...oh wait... Guy's not in office yet, let's wait before we panick, ey? I paid $1.78 for premium fuel this morning...beats the $3.98 I was paying with a Texas oil tycoon in office. So far I'm a fan of what lies ahead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosierbuck Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Maybe we can all just stick our heads in the sand and hide from reality...oh wait... Guy's not in office yet, let's wait before we panick, ey? I paid $1.78 for premium fuel this morning...beats the $3.98 I was paying with a Texas oil tycoon in office. So far I'm a fan of what lies ahead. Don't see your logic, there pal. He's not in office so don't panic about bad things, but yet give him credit for good things? I would think for consistency's sake, since he is not in office yet, we do not attribute anything at all to him, good or bad. Gas prices are not a result of a national election, sorry. HB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneshot Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Maybe we can all just stick our heads in the sand and hide from reality...oh wait... Guy's not in office yet, let's wait before we panick, ey? I paid $1.78 for premium fuel this morning...beats the $3.98 I was paying with a Texas oil tycoon in office. So far I'm a fan of what lies ahead. Ok, I'm really confused with your statement. I'll have to beat my head against a brick wall to understand your logic on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhine16 Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Don't know Rhine, might want to look at the ammo confiscation thread. Mississippi is on that list too.:eek: Yes, I saw that William....Was in disbelief, and haven't heard anything else about it. We'll see I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clrj3514 Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 perfect wording and i love hogdawg's signature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceArcher Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Ok, I'm really confused with your statement. I'll have to beat my head against a brick wall to understand your logic on that one. I have to beat my head with a brick everytime I read this political forum. Please explain your logic on where Obama is anti-sportman or anti-hunting. Consitantly he has said that he supports sportsman...hunting and the 2nd ammendment. Can anyone point to any anti-sportsmens policies that President elect Obama is advocating? If you haven't noticed...doesn't look like gun issues are going to be a priority for the administration....there are much bigger fish to fry and hard decisions to make over the next 4 years. Also...I went to deer camp this weekend. We were down in Southern Il and took a number of really nice bucks in camp and a boatload of does. Were we sitting around the table Saturday night discussing politics and we figured out that of the 10 people in our cabin....9 voted for Obama. The 10th guy was 17. These are the type of hunters that I am around and that I was raised with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 I have to beat my head with a brick everytime I read this political forum. Please explain your logic on where Obama is anti-sportman or anti-hunting. Consitantly he has said that he supports sportsman...hunting and the 2nd ammendment. Can anyone point to any anti-sportsmens policies that President elect Obama is advocating? Again I will suggest you look at the mans voting record and on where he stands and what he himself has said. No one here is spinning anything, Obama has made it very clear that he does not support our second amendment rights. You can continue to ignore it all you want, his record is there for anyone to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjam5 Posted November 27, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 I have to beat my head with a brick everytime I read this political forum. Please explain your logic on where Obama is anti-sportman or anti-hunting. Consitantly he has said that he supports sportsman...hunting and the 2nd ammendment. Can anyone point to any anti-sportsmens policies that President elect Obama is advocating? If you haven't noticed...doesn't look like gun issues are going to be a priority for the administration....there are much bigger fish to fry and hard decisions to make over the next 4 years. Also...I went to deer camp this weekend. We were down in Southern Il and took a number of really nice bucks in camp and a boatload of does. Were we sitting around the table Saturday night discussing politics and we figured out that of the 10 people in our cabin....9 voted for Obama. The 10th guy was 17. These are the type of hunters that I am around and that I was raised with. This is exactly what I am talking about. There are much bigger fish to fry? Let me tell you something my friend, that IS one of the fish they want to fry. For losing the Lawful firearms commerce act( where you can't sue gun makers over crimes committed with guns), for the sunset of the Clinton assault weapon bill, for so MANY states,38! that have enacted the right to carry. The recent Heller VS. DC also. Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, Clinton, Kennedy Read up on these people. See what their record is? These are who BHO surrounds himself with. Many think BHO has a magic wand and he will fix everything...see he already lowered the gas prices:rolleyes:....PUHLEEESE. So go read his voting record on guns. A liberal senator from a big city with lots of crime. Matter of fact, there has never been a minority politician who has not backed gun control or anti hunting measures. They come from big cities and do not have the hunting/shooting/military heritage that many do here in The USA. Be careful what you ask for, you just might get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nativetexan Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Ace, so far all I have seen from you is spouting off about how "everyone at deer camp" or elsewhere voted for Obama. It seems to me that you have based you decision on what everyone around you is doing because the facts have been posted here and from probably every legitimate source there is. I cannot for the life of me believe that a person of any sense could IGNORE the history of a politician and that of his constituents because he stood on a stage and said he "wouldn't." How many times in history have we heard that from either side on all sorts of topics? Plenty. You need to look at voting records to make a decision. Beat your head with a brick all you like...At least by the time Obama and his buddies do what they are going to do (at least attempt to), your head will be numb enough that you won't feel it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogwild63 Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 Ace, you conspicuously never responded to this post on the other thread Originally Posted by AceArcher On the gun issues....President Obama has been clear on these issues. If you say that you think he is lying then I guess you will just have to wait and see how things play out b/c the Republican party has been run out of Washington tonight. I agree that President-elect Obama (sorry, but George W. Bush is still President for two more months) has been clear on the issue of gun control. Let's review his voting record from his U.S. Senate tenure. SA4615 Voted for gun owners S397 Voted against gun manufacturers (twice) SA1615 Voted against gun owners SA1620 Voted against gun manufacturers SA1623 Voted against gun manufacturers SA1626 Voted against gun owners SA1644 Voted against gun manufacturers And from his time in the Illinois Legislature SB0604 Voted against concealed carry SB-1963 Voted against allowing someone without an FOID to possess a gun while under direct supervision of someone with an FOID SB-356 Voted for a poorly worded bill attempting to define "junk handguns" SB-2163 Voted against lowering the age for an FOID from 21 to 18 SB-947 Voted for additional restrictions on gun shows HB-1096 Did not vote on a bill to legalize handgun hunting for deer HB-515 Voted against this bill which would require that gun owners be notified if a gun they owned was the subject of a records search HB-2576 Voted for this bill which would limit handgun purchases to 1 per month SB-2165 Voted against this bill that would prevent prosecution for self defense use of a firearm even if said use violated local laws By my count, that's 15 votes against the 2nd Amendment, and 1 vote for. So, looking at his voting record, I'd say that we have a very good basis to be concerned for our Constitutional right to bear arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted November 27, 2008 Report Share Posted November 27, 2008 I have to beat my head with a brick everytime I read this political forum. If this is the case then why continue to come in here without posting any factual basis behind your replies/posts. Your opinion Ace has been let ride as has others here, there have been several posts with facts posted that you continue to ignore with your opinions/arguments. If you do not like opinions that differ from yours you do not have to read them or post on them, and you can choose to ignore the facts if you like. I continue to encourage you to do a little checking on your president elects voting record and on where he truly stands on our rights. I would venture to say that most members of hunting related forums and most hunters/sportsman take their second amendment right to keep and bear arms very seriously, might want to think about that before the next time you post something like this: Originally Posted by AceArcher I guess if all hunting guns get banned their is one goodside....less hunters out during gun season killing the big bucks. I will likely get more opportunity for B&C bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnf Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 I have to beat my head with a brick everytime I read this political forum. Please don't stop untill it knocks some sence into your head. Please explain your logic on where Obama is anti-sportman or anti-hunting. Consitantly he has said that he supports sportsman...hunting and the 2nd ammendment. Can anyone point to any anti-sportsmens policies that President elect Obama is advocating? If you haven't noticed...doesn't look like gun issues are going to be a priority for the administration....there are much bigger fish to fry and hard decisions to make over the next 4 years. Also...I went to deer camp this weekend. We were down in Southern Il and took a number of really nice bucks in camp and a boatload of does. Were we sitting around the table Saturday night discussing politics and we figured out that of the 10 people in our cabin....9 voted for Obama. The 10th guy was 17. These are the type of hunters that I am around and that I was raised with. Regardless of what he may say, Obama has never, not one single time voted on the side of hunters, sportsmen, or gun owners. Believe what he's done, not what he says he'll do. Sounds like your in a deer camp full of idiots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Finn Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 was it "sportsmen for nobama" or "obama"? i like the "nobama". these are sportsmen who did not want obama for obvious reasons. but the sportsmen for obama are a group in denial... It was Sportsmen for Obama.....I just like calling him Nobama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted November 28, 2008 Report Share Posted November 28, 2008 I didn't vote for either Mccain or Obama. I seen both positives on both sides, but thought neither was really ready for office, I thought we would be in trouble either way. So neither of the two got my vote and I stand by what I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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