Our American Troops, WMD'S

[oneshot]

I got this e mailed to me from a friend and thought I would share it. It amazes me how little press this got from an alleged non bias media. Check out the links below after reading this.

Subject: American Troops find 550 Metric Tons of Uranium in Iraq

Follow links at bottom to verify.

On July 5, 2008, the Associated Press (AP) released a story titled: Secret U.S. mission hauls uranium from Iraq. The opening paragraph is as follows:

The last major remnant of Saddam Hussein's nuclear program (a huge stockpile of concentrated natural uranium) reached a Canadian port Saturday to complete a secret U.S. operation that included a two-week airlift from Baghdad and a ship voyage crossing two oceans.

See anything wrong with this picture?

We have been hearing from the far left for more than five years how Bush lied. Somehow, that slogan loses its credibility now that 550 metric tons of Saddam's yellowcake, used for nuclear weapon enrichment, has been discovered and shipped to Canada for its new use as nuclear energy.

It appears that American troops found the 550 metric tons of uraniuim in 2003 after invading Iraq. They had to sit on this information and the uranium itself for fear of terrorists attempting to steal it. It was guarded and kept safe by our military in a 23,000-acre site with large sand beams surrounding the site.

This is vindication for the Bush administration, having been attacked mercilessly by the liberal media and the far-left pundits on the blogo-sphere. Now that it is proven that President Bush did not lie about Saddam's nuclear ambitions, one would think that the mainstream media would report the true story. Once the AP released the story, the mainstream media should have picked it up and broadcast it worldwide.

That never happened, due in large part, I believe, to the fact that the mainstream media would have to admit they were wrong about Bush's war motives all along. Thankfully, the AP got it right when it said, "The removal of 550 metric tons of yellowcake, the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment, was a significant step toward closing the books on Saddam's nuclear legacy."

Closing the book on Saddam's nuclear legacy? Did Saddam have a nuclear legacy after all? I thought Bush lied? As it turns out, the people who lied were Joe Wilson and his wife.

Valerie Plame engaged in a clear case of nepotism and convinced the CIA to send her husband on a fact finding mission in February 2002, seeking to determine if Saddam Hussein attempted to buy yellowcake from Niger. The CIA and British intelligence believed Saddam contacted Niger for that purpose but needed proof.

During his trip to Niger, Wilson actually interviewed the former prime minister of Niger, Ibrahim Assane Mayaki. Mayaki told Wilson that in June of 1999, an Iraqi delegation expressed interest in "expanding commercial relations" for the purposes of purchasing yellowcake.

Wilson chose to overlook Mahaki's remarks and reported to the CIA that there was no evidence of Hussein wanting to purchase yellow cake from Niger. However, with British intelligence insisting the claim was true, President Bush used that same claim in his State of the Union address in January of 2003. Outraged by Bush's insistence that the claim was true, Wilson wrote an op-ed in the New York Times in the summer of 2003 slamming Bush.

Wilson did this in spite of the fact that Mayaki said Saddam did try to buy the yellowcake from Niger. The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence disagreed with Wilson and supported Mayaki's claim. This meant nothing to Wilson who was opposed to the Iraq war and thus had ulterior motives in covering up the prime minister's statements.

It was a simple tactic, really. If the far-left and their friends in the media could prove Bush lied about Hussein wanting to purchase yellowcake from Niger, it would undermine President Bush's credibility and give them more cause for asking what other lies he may have told.

Yet the real lie came from Wilson, who interpreted his own meaning from the prime minister's statements and concluded all by himself that the claim of Saddam attempting to purchase yellowcake was "unequivocally wrong." Curiously the CIA sat on this information and did not inform the CIA Director, who sided with Bush on the yellowcake claim. This was made public in a bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee report in July 2004.

Valerie Plame also engaged in her own lie campaign by spreading the notion that the Bush Administration outed her as a CIA agent. Never mind that it was Richard Armitage - no friend of the Bush administration - who leaked Plame'sidentity to the press. Never mind that Plame had not been in the field as a CIA agent in some six years.

The truth is, due to their opposition to the war, Joe Wilson, Valerie Plame, the mainstream media, and their left-wing friends on the blogo-sphere engaged in a propaganda campaign to undermine the Bush administration. Now that Saddam's uranium has been made public and is no longer a threat to the world, do you think these aforementioned parties will apologize and admit they were wrong?

Don't count on it.

The rest of the American people should hear the truth about Saddam's uranium. It is up to you and me to inform them. As far as the anti-war crowd is concerned, the next time they say that Bush lied, we should tell them to "have the yellowcake and eat it too."

For verification of this information, click on this link:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25546334/

http://www.truthorfiction.com/rumors/u/uraniumyellowcake.htm

[AceArcher]

As Paul Harvey always said....and now the rest of the story.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/yellowcake.asp

[oneshot]

As Paul Harvey always said....and now the rest of the story.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/yellowcake.asp

And as I'm telling you, you just don't get it!!!

Why don't you join a liberal forum so you can all converse in your little dream land.

[wtnhunt]

Snopes is not always an accurate source Ace. Guess you have to decide what you want to believe based on the information out there and on who is supplying it. Kind of interesting of all the media sources out there that msnbc would run this story on the internet.

The point here is whether or not Saddam Hussein had ill intentions and had the means or was attempting to get means to wipe out peoples who he did not like. If the media were forthcoming and the general public had the intelligence that the congress did, who by the way supported going to war, then we might see things a bit differently.

[stevebeilgard]

it was reported on some major news channels, but not on most. snopes has about an 80% accuracy rating, i think. don't put full stock into them. and like all americans, ace is welcome to think whatever he wants. including that obama is the sportsmans friend. this is america and people can (for now) say and think whatever they feel is right. i hope ace is proven correct about obama here. i just know better, so all i have left is hope.

[AceArcher]

Maybe they are only right 80% of the time. Not sure where you are getting that from. However, on this issue they are correct 100%.

[jm23494]

I recal a few years ago being told by a friend who has some authority on the subject of WMD's that Iraq bought tons upon tons of a substance that could be used to make two things: pharmacutical products or biological weapons. Do you think they were really making medicine for their people? I don't think that we will ever know what truely was found in Iraq.

[Swamphunter]

Maybe they are only right 80% of the time. Not sure where you are getting that from. However, on this issue they are correct 100%.

And Ace knows this for fact as he was there...he has probably been privy to all the classified information and documents that the President of the United States has been also.

Go here Ace http://www.liberalforum.org/

....if you want people to agree with you. I am doubting that is what you are looking for though. Seems that you are here only to start ridiculous posts and disagree with whatever the members respond back to you with. I still doubt that you are even a hunter to begin with myself...

[nativetexan]

What I can tell you is that there is a lot going on behind the scenes that will not make it to mainstream media for one reason or the other. Usually because of security, media fallout, or an ongoing investigation.

If you look at the forensic side of things, a cache of weapons or WMD's is more than likely laced with tons of intel. To add that to mainstream knowledge is basically telling terrorists that they need to step up their game worldwide. If they were stupid, we would be done with this already.

For example (again), lets say that our troops found a nuclear weapon on its way to the U.S. It is on the news and the media is hailing the troops for a job well done. In the meantime, the citizens of this country are freaking out at how close it came which will add undue pressure to whatever investigation is going on and create an overall state of paranoia. Tell me how that is productive?

To put it just a hair more in perspective, do you guys honestly think that NOBODY knows where Osama Bin Laden is? If I were a bettin' man, I might think that they know exactly where he is, but taking him down would not lead to his associates (much less successors) would it? Think if they get him in custody that he will just spill everything???

Some folks just need to let the military and intelligence communities do their jobs.

[AceArcher]

Obviously I am not privy to any information that is not public informaiton. However, the facts as they stand today are that we invaded a soveriegn nation on the premise that the were in possesion of WMD that were in a direct violation of a UN order not to have that material. In fact no information has come to light since 2003 that suggests that Iraq had or was developing any WMD at all. If anything the facts suggest that they were in compliance with the UN stipulations just as UN inspectors and Saddam himself said b/f the war.

It could be that this material has been found and not revealed. I think this is very unlikley be it could be.

[Hoyt fanatic]

The saddest part is how Ace has apparently forgotten about the planes crashing into the Twin Towers and the Pentagon and the thousands of Americans that died. He also has forgotten about the undescribably sick humor of the terrorists in that they bombed us on 9/11 or 911 which happens to be our phone number for an emergency. These are horrible people that we are dealing with. As for the WMDs. They have proven that he nuked the people in his own country and they found the uranium. What more proof do you want?! Would you rather us leave them alone and let them prepare a nice nuke for us? Maybe only a million people will die. What will you do then? Will you get mad for a month and then forget about it again and go back to being a pacifist like you did last time? Maybe you want another attack but we dont. Thats why we support our troops and fight people like you who think that liberty is free and think a patriot is an extremist. We are Americans and we will fight for what we believe in. That is how we started this country and thats how we will end it if necessary.

[Texan_Til_I_Die]

...the facts as they stand today are that we invaded a soveriegn nation on the premise that the were in possesion of WMD that were in a direct violation of a UN order not to have that material...

And it was Saddam Hussein himself who fostered that belief. Even his own generals believed that they had developed a significant WMD capability. During our invasion, more than one general asked the top commanders when they could expect support from tactical WMD's. And our forces fully expected to get hit with some type of NBC attack as they neared Baghdad. In other words, Saddam fooled everyone, including his own people, about their existing WMD capabilities.

In fact no information has come to light since 2003 that suggests that Iraq had or was developing any WMD at all. If anything the facts suggest that they were in compliance with the UN stipulations just as UN inspectors and Saddam himself said b/f the war.

They were given every opportunity to prove they were in compliance by opening up to the U.N. inspectors. Instead, they did everything they could to hinder the inspections. They made it look like, intentionally in my opinion, they were covering up a WMD program.

The fact that Saddam Hussein turned out to be bluffing about WMDs isn't a mark against Bush's decision. If you're a cop and a man pulls out a gun and points it at you, you're within your rights to shoot him, particularly if the man in question is a known criminal who's shot people before. If it turns out afterward that the gun wasn't loaded, that's not the cop's fault.

[oldksnarc]

In fact no information has come to light since 2003 that suggests that Iraq had or was developing any WMD at all.

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It could be that this material has been found and not revealed. I think this is very unlikley be it could be.

Exactly. It hasn't and probably won't come to light. At least for some time.

I deer hunt with a congressman who serves on the House intelligence committee. It is amazing the amount of information he has that we don't - and that was without his sharing any sensitive information.

And, as has been said, most of that information the average citizen doesn't need to know because of the paranoia and panic it would create.

[nativetexan]

I think this is very unlikley be it could be.

Think what you will.....

[TxAgJeepr]

Obviously I am not privy to any information that is not public informaiton. However, the facts as they stand today are that we invaded a soveriegn nation on the premise that the were in possesion of WMD that were in a direct violation of a UN order not to have that material. In fact no information has come to light since 2003 that suggests that Iraq had or was developing any WMD at all. If anything the facts suggest that they were in compliance with the UN stipulations just as UN inspectors and Saddam himself said b/f the war.

It could be that this material has been found and not revealed. I think this is very unlikley be it could be.

Ask the Kurds if Saddam had WMDs.

[Hoyt fanatic]

My point exactly. This proves that Liberals have selective memories.