Casey Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 Why does some hunters on TV, celebrate a bad shot. Take a spine shot for instance. When the deer is down and trying to get back up, the hunter is celebrating in the stand. To me we need to respect the animals we hunt. I know bad shots happen, but I don't understand why some hunters celebrate. Just seen it done on a hunting show. I would rather see the hunter beat himself up because of the shot than some one else just happy to stick a whitetail with a arrow or shoot one with a gun. Does anyone feel the same way?? Like I said I am not going after anyone. Everyone will make a bad shot if you hunt enough, but I feel like there should be no celebrating a bad shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Shooter Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 You must been watching the same show I was last night and I wondered the same thing about a Mathews Pro staffer celebrating a spine shot. He didn't even mention he hit the deet high and that it wasn't an intentional shot to hit him there. I have taken several spine shots but they are directly below me and is an intentional shot. I feel your frustration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 Actually, I have seen a lot of inappropriate celebrations of poor shots and real crappy penetration. I know they have to put the best face on any situations that occur on camera, but some of them are so bad that it kind of makes you wonder what all the jumping and giggling is all about. Some of those shots would have me worrying about whether I was going to recover that deer or not. Doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illinois59 Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 I know what you mean. From what i have seen there is a lot of pre planning that goes into the "celebration" after a shot. I saw on one show where they even had a meeting to discuss the "reaction" after the shot. So imagine that you already have the script in your head and you connect. You say your lines and then later looking at the tape the producer questions whether or not to use the hunt in the video. Time, cost, size of buck. They all weigh in. As far as a negative reaction or remorse for a misplaced shot well the anti's would have field day with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whttlbucksteve Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 If it was the deer shot in the creek bed I have seen it.I mad a bad shot last year and felt pretty cappy for a while.I did find the deer but I just didn't make the shot I should have.Hopefully they leran from that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kid Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 ya you make a great point,, i wonder that to sometimes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKYhunter Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 Just another reason I can't hardly stand to watch hunting shows anymore. All they do is push products or hype this or that. I also don't like how they talk sometimes "Big daddy rabbit", etc. Just sounds ignorant to me. I saw that shot on the Mathews show last night. I'm sure he had to finish that buck off but he never mentioned it. Did you also notice how he said they had just found that place that day, but then later mentioned having trail cam pics of a monster buck with huge brow tines? Something about that was fishy to me. Why not just admit you made a bad shot, got lucky and spined the deer, and then showed what actually happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 This issue came up earlier this fall when the new hunting videos came out. It bothers me to see a hunter allow an animal to die slowly instead of finishing it off (given there is that opportunity). I too have made spine shots. Some intentional (straight down shots) and some not. The 8-pointer I harvested a couple weeks ago was spine shot. The shot was a little high and the buck dropped in his tracks. He didn't move. I thought he was dead and started to get down from my stand when he got up with his front legs and started to move slowly away. I could have sat there and waited for him to die, but instead immediately placed another slug in his vitals to end his suffering. The celebration shouldn't start until the deer is found and no longer alive (IMO). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Other than a spine shot, how many of you actually know exactly where you hit the deer when shooting it with the bow? I'm not in any way trying to make an excuse for whoever it was that was celebrating before his quarry was dead, I don't agree with that either. However, I've been guilty of going bananas in the treestand after making a "not so good" shot and not knowing it until the tracking began... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 I think it goes both ways on this to be honest. See a lot of bad shots on shows, some will admit that the shot was not so great and explain the situation and back out, others as you point out will celebrate and act like they made a great shot and sometimes even go as far as to say that it was a great shot when it was obviously not. Funny how they do not typically play the shot back on those hunts, wonder why. I have had to record a few shows on the dvd recorder where the hunter claimed to have made a great shot and watched it over and slow or frame by frame to determine that it was not a great shot. No names mentioned, but some of those shows I simply will not watch any more. I guess from my standpoint for the sake of the shows when these guys playback, they can see where they hit. When they edit their video they do not have to leave in any commentary that it was a great shot if that was said on those where we can see that it was not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Shooter Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Other than a spine shot, how many of you actually know exactly where you hit the deer when shooting it with the bow? I can honestly say I watch my arrow hit the animal I am shooting at, and if I do not see it; then I have made a bad shot. That is the primary reason I shoot white fletchings and nocks so I can see my arrow in flight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zambo Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Generally they only show the bucks that they recover. I wonder how many big bucks are wounded and not recovered due to a bad shot on those filmed hunts. The pressure to kill on camera must be high. I am sure there are lots of ethical hunters being filmed who only take high percentage shots. However I bet there are filmed hunters that try risky shots that should not be taken. Cameras can hide these shots or edit them out. I love to watch hunting shows and I am not pointing fingers at anyone. But I would bet that a few big bucks die slow unrecovered deaths due to the pressure of trying to get a harvest on film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruttinbuc Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Makes you wonder what the thought process is for some of these hunters and editors alike. Maybe their personalities get in the way of how to act..... The thought is on the competition of getting it on tape and no regard for the animal or bowhunting itself, for that matter. This is why I never cared for the Drury Dream Season stuff. There are some poor shot decisions because they need it on tape. This hunter and editor could have cleaned up the whole thing...Hype it all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csualumni21000 Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 The celebrations on some are really disturbing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m gardner Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 It really frosts me too. Doing "The Hero" while an animal flops around. I've seen enough struggle to their feet and run off that I encourage shooting them until they are surely dead. My girlfriend is really funny to listen to. She talks to the T.V. while we watch and says things like "They need to take your bow away!!" or "Try hunting public land and not over bait!!" I suppose it's hard to get good footage unless you're on private land and baiting. But some of these guys really need to spend alot more time at the range shooting broadheads and less time combing their hair and dressing in the latest fashions. Here's a photo of my last hunt. No camo. Public land. Heavily rifle hunted before this season. This was an old smart doe that kept picking us off. The mulie bucks are in rut and stupid but you couldn't hunt them. This was an open country bowhunt and I stalked to 33 yards and killed her. Did I mention I don't use Scent-Loc or carry a rangefinder? We lived in a wall tent ( it was 20 to 45 degrees) and I was pretty dirty too. On the way home the nice lady at McDonalds thought we were homeless and wouldn't let me pay for our meal. I told her we weren't homeless but she just smiled and said "Of course your not." Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csualumni21000 Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 M G right on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leo Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 It really frosts me too. Doing "The Hero" while an animal flops around. I've seen enough struggle to their feet and run off that I encourage shooting them until they are surely dead. My girlfriend is really funny to listen to. She talks to the T.V. while we watch and says things like "They need to take your bow away!!" or "Try hunting public land and not over bait!!" I suppose it's hard to get good footage unless you're on private land and baiting. But some of these guys really need to spend alot more time at the range shooting broadheads and less time combing their hair and dressing in the latest fashions. Here's a photo of my last hunt. No camo. Public land. Heavily rifle hunted before this season. This was an old smart doe that kept picking us off. The mulie bucks are in rut and stupid but you couldn't hunt them. This was an open country bowhunt and I stalked to 33 yards and killed her. Did I mention I don't use Scent-Loc or carry a rangefinder? We lived in a wall tent ( it was 20 to 45 degrees) and I was pretty dirty too. On the way home the nice lady at McDonalds thought we were homeless and wouldn't let me pay for our meal. I told her we weren't homeless but she just smiled and said "Of course your not." Mark A classic stop at McDonald's! LOL! Honestly, I stopped celebrating after ANY hit a long time ago. The better you can keep your cool until you recover the animal the quicker and easier that will happen. What you initially thought was a great hit might have revealed itself as not so great if you were paying attention instead of celebrating prematurely. Until you lay your hands on your quarry there is nothing to celebrate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m gardner Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Yeah Leo, It's amazing how you start to crave nasty, artery clogging food when you've been out in the cold for a week or so. Good thing Mickey-D's are everywhere!! Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruttinbuc Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 A classic stop at McDonald's! LOL! Honestly, I stopped celebrating after ANY hit a long time ago. The better you can keep your cool until you recover the animal the quicker and easier that will happen. What you initially thought was a great hit might have revealed itself as not so great if you were paying attention instead of celebrating prematurely. Until you lay your hands on your quarry there is nothing to celebrate. Spot on Leo! Mark, "Of course your not" :D:D That was good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirage Posted December 6, 2008 Report Share Posted December 6, 2008 Everytime I spine shoot a deer "only twice I am as happy as can be!!! Thats right as happy as can be I dont have to track them and I know he is down for me to finish off. I also wonder why some hunters cover there ears when they hear the bear death moan to me it means I have a bear down. Ive heard of hunters that cant stand that moan?? I am out to kill an animal when Im hunting. And i think you are kidding your self if you are not out there trying to do the same thing. Now when it comes to having a bad shot on a deer and I dont think a spine shot is a bad shot, maybe not what your aiming for but it gets the job done, Like a gut shot yeah those shots sucks, If you hunt long enough as I am sure you guys already know You are going to have a bad shot or a non recovered animal and If you cant handle it maybe hunting is not for you. I dont think the pros on tv are celebrating a bad shot I think they are excited and atre letting out some of the adrenline we all seek from our hunts. How many times do these pros have bad shots on tv and not recover there animal? Not many because it dosnt make the show...Just my thoughts:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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