Ilbowman Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 They really need to change the BCS and I think this is how it should shake down: All top BCS conferences should have a title game.( so that would force the ACC, BIG TEN, BIG EAST, AND PAC 10 to have one to determine the best choice for a playoff). Then have 2 at large from the second tier conferences according to the current BCS standings.. So you would have an 8 team playoff to determine which two teams would go to the national championship game. once that is decided you go by record or rankings to determine the rest of the bcs bowl games. I figure since they get the whole month of December pretty much off than this should make the lead up to the championship much more interesting.. what does everyone else think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Good idea as far as determining who actually has the better team, but I don't see it happening. Too many schools will lose too much money by being locked out of the bowl/playoff games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilbowman Posted December 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 I forgot that money reigns over all!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 I think Florida will beat Alabama and then whip OU in the Orange Bowl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilbowman Posted December 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 I hope your right cause I cant stand bama or oklahoma!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Yeah, the present system stinks; it's sad that college football has become such a money maker. I think a lot of the BCS clowns have lost sight of what a kid is in college for in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABuckSlayer Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 That Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma deal is a big mess. If your going to cry for Texas then how can you pick them over Texas Tech? They all beat each other and have the same record. Do you have an in conference playoff? I'm not sure the answer to that. People who make a lot more money than I do will have to figure that one out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 I do feel bad for Texas, even though I'm not a Longhorn fan. I mean, they do have an identical record as OU, and beat OU in the heads up. But OU then goes on to win the division? Doesn't make much sense to me. I bet the Big 12 rules get changed in the near future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 The real issue here is the fact that the Big 12 allowed the BCS to act as their tie breaker. Tech, UT, and Oklahoma all have one loss, and they all have beaten each other (for the most part) so why is Oklahoma their pick to go to the conference final? It makes no sense. They need to establish tie-breakers. Head-to-head should be the first tie-breaker (obviously that wouldn't be enough here) so they'd need to have at least another 3 or 4 steps of tie-breaking. Be it points scored vs. points allowed, road record etc... Bottomline, the Big 12 was the BCS' puppet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 The real issue here is the fact that the Big 12 allowed the BCS to act as their tie breaker. Tech, UT, and Oklahoma all have one loss, and they all have beaten each other (for the most part) so why is Oklahoma their pick to go to the conference final? It makes no sense. They need to establish tie-breakers. Head-to-head should be the first tie-breaker (obviously that wouldn't be enough here) so they'd need to have at least another 3 or 4 steps of tie-breaking. Be it points scored vs. points allowed, road record etc... Bottomline, the Big 12 was the BCS' puppet. The Big 12 used the BCS ranking as the 5th tier in a tie breaker in this instance. My question is did OU have a harder SOS than the other three teams? How did they rank higher in the BCS ranking than the other two? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 The only list I can find shows Texas at #33 and OU at #38 SOS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls/119 OU is #1, Tx is #4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 The Big 12 used the BCS ranking as the 5th tier in a tie breaker in this instance. Really? Everything I've heard and read said there was no tie breaker used. The Big 12 just hand picked OU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 OU, in large part, got ahead of Texas in the rankings by running up the score on their opponents at every opportunity. Of course, that's been a trademark of Field Marshall Stoops for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 OU, in large part, got ahead of Texas in the rankings by running up the score on their opponents at every opportunity. Of course, that's been a trademark of Field Marshall Stoops for years. I'm not an OU fan, but everyone does it that can get away with it, and he learned that from Spurrier during his tenure at Florida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCH Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Not a OU fan, but if that's what it takes to get to the BCS Championship, I don't blame them. Heck, my Cowboys could score 80 points a game and I wouldn't complain.:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 You can't blame coaches for running up the score. It's what the system forces them to do, the computers look at margin of victory and place a lot of importance on that....yet another failing of said system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinch314 Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 The computer determined the rankings by the "style" points of each win. Texas Tech ALMOST got beat by Baylor, an unranked team. Texas whooped Texas A&M, an unranked team. OU was close but then pulled ahead to win by 20 against a ranked team. That was how the computer saw it and made up the rankings. I personally dont like the system theyve got now, I'd rather see a playoff system implemented but who knows what could happen. I am an OU fan UNLESS they are playing my OSU Cowboys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texastrophies Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 Texas (although I am a UT fan) really has no one to blame but themselves. They were clearly a better team then Tech, but UT came out and stunk up the joint in the first half and then didn't have quite enough to seal the deal in the second half. If they would have played the full game, none of this discussion happens. As said above, I would imagine the Big 12 will look to a different tie break system instead of letting coaches, sports writers and a computer decide for them. I don't really like running the score up on your opponents as a factor either. Oh well, I got other things to worry about than this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchies Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 You can't blame coaches for running up the score. It's what the system forces them to do, the computers look at margin of victory and place a lot of importance on that....yet another failing of said system. I have to agree with Muggs here. I am an OU fan but put aside I still think the system is flawed. I see Texas and Tech's points as well. In the meantime I'll let the guys that make the big dollars finally figure out the solution that makes sense to the common person all along............a playoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan1990 Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 The BCS is garbage but Oklahoma deserved to go. Out of the 3 way tie where they all beat eachother OU-UT was the first game. Most teams improve later in the year. OU proved that they had done that by stomping Tech (who beat Texas) and scoring alot of points in every game after the loss to Texas. BCS ranks on style points and you cant argue that OU had more than UT or TTU. And Texas cant play the "head to head" game because in that case they still wouldnt win the tie because Tech beat them. Oklahoma is the better team and deserved to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABuckSlayer Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 The BCS is garbage but Oklahoma deserved to go. Out of the 3 way tie where they all beat eachother OU-UT was the first game. Most teams improve later in the year. OU proved that they had done that by stomping Tech (who beat Texas) and scoring alot of points in every game after the loss to Texas. BCS ranks on style points and you cant argue that OU had more than UT or TTU. And Texas cant play the "head to head" game because in that case they still wouldnt win the tie because Tech beat them. Oklahoma is the better team and deserved to go No bias in that statement ehh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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