fly Posted December 3, 2008 Report Share Posted December 3, 2008 I have now heard varying opinions so I'd like to hear from those of you who can speak from experience. Do muzzeloaders kick more than a 20 g shotgun with a deer slug? I was under the impression that they have less. This was a big reason I bought one. I'd like to introduce my daughter to deer hunting next year. Thanks, Frank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PA_Spike_King Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Frank, I don't know about the 20g but I have shot a 12 with deer slugs and I have been shooting muzzeloaders for over 25 years and I will say the front stuffer has much less kick than the 12. JMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaun_300 Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Frank, I don't know about the 20g but I have shot a 12 with deer slugs and I have been shooting muzzeloaders for over 25 years and I will say the front stuffer has much less kick than the 12. JMO. Ditto, I've shot a 12ga with a slug a few times, and I shot my friends Encore last year. The ML definetly had a lot less kick than the 12ga with slug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 My ml loaded with 120 grains of pyro has less felt recoil than my wife's 20 gauge has with turkey loads. My oldest daughter who is 12 now was shooting the ml with downcharged loads, 85 grains of pyro, when she was I think 8 years old and she handled it just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Hunter Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Muzzle loader = less kick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 A lot depends on the guns involved and the ammo involved, but by and large, the ML has less recoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly Posted December 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Thanks for the info everyone. I've got a lot to learn about muzzeloaders before next season, but I'm glad to know my money was well spent. I think I'll go with a 85 grain load for my daughter as suggested by wtnhunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted December 4, 2008 Report Share Posted December 4, 2008 Thanks for the info everyone. I've got a lot to learn about muzzeloaders before next season, but I'm glad to know my money was well spent. I think I'll go with a 85 grain load for my daughter as suggested by wtnhunt. If you choose to shoot loose powder you can play around with the loads. The best accuracy with my load/setup is actually 120 grains of powder, but the accuracy with 85 grains was plenty good enough out to 100 yards with the downcharged load that I was confident she could make a good shot so long as we kept shots within reasonable distance. You really probably ought to check out the bluelk ml'ing chapters if you have not already http://www.realtree.com/bluelk/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotashRLS Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 If you have a light synthetic stocked ML and shoot 150gr charges through it, it is one mean sob. I know my 7mm Rem Mag feels a lot better than the ML with heavy loads. However, for the bell-ringing award winner, 3 1/2" 12ga. turkey loads while patterning your gun takes the cake. After 3 shots you will go back in the house, take 2 Excedrin Migraines, and hit the Lazy Boy. Trust me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyarcher Posted December 8, 2008 Report Share Posted December 8, 2008 However, for the bell-ringing award winner, 3 1/2" 12ga. turkey loads while patterning your gun takes the cake. After 3 shots you will go back in the house, take 2 Excedrin Migraines, and hit the Lazy Boy. Trust me. That reminds me of the time my Mossberg 835 with a 3 1/2" load flipped me off of a five gallon bucket I was using for a seat. Boy did that hurt...;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fly Posted December 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 I've shot some heafty turkey loads but was thinking my 300 Rem. ultra mag had more kick so I looked it up. According to Chuck Hawks recoil table powder packing shotguns win the prize over the 300 RUM. See: http://www.chuckhawks.com/recoil_table.htm and http://www.chuckhawks.com/shotgun_recoil_table.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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