Powder Load question

[Flintlock1776]

I have the 1st generation Rem 700ML and I got the conversion kit so I could use #209 primers.

Now I see the Nikon BDC scope that would be great due to the reticle markings for 100-250 yard shots using a 250 gr. bullet with 150 grains of powder behind it.

HOWEVER, in looking at the Remington ML manual it shows to load to only 120 Grain Pyrodex Pellets. I see I can now buy Pyrodex in 60 grain loads which helps.

So, will using the 120 grain load really impact using the Nikon BDC as they were very specific about sighting in at 100 yards using 150gr power/250 gr bullet combo ???

Let me know.

Thanks.

[hangunnr]

I too have and love my first gen 50 cal Remmy 700ML. I believe the original books listed 120gr poured charge I could be wrong though. They upped that to 150gr of pellets when they introduced the second generation guns with the 26" barrels. You won't burn a full 3 pellets in the 24" tube.

The only way to find out if the BDC reticle is accurate is to shoot it at the specified distances. There's no way Nikon can tell you how your gun will shoot with a specific load....period.

I see you mention 60gr pellets. Those are for 54 caliber guns and will not fit the bore of a 50 cal. You didn't mention what caliber your gun is.

FWIW,

I've tried both versions of the 209 conversions and found that I got much better accuracy using musket caps instead of the 209 primers.

hangunnr

[fly]

I've been reading up on ML scopes. The nikon omega seems ok, but Leupold makes a new ML scope that may be better? The new ultimate slam. The advertisements indicate it's accuate regardless of the load used. It runs about the same price as the Omega.

http://www.leupold.com/hunting-and-shooting/products/scopes/shotgunmuzzleloader-scopes/ultimateslam/

[Flintlock1776]

I've been reading up on ML scopes. The nikon omega seems ok, but Leupold makes a new ML scope that may be better? The new ultimate slam. The advertisements indicate it's accuate regardless of the load used. It runs about the same price as the Omega.

http://www.leupold.com/hunting-and-shooting/products/scopes/shotgunmuzzleloader-scopes/ultimateslam/

Yep, I heard about that after I posted. I will go Leupold for sure. It will be nice to have Leupold on my 30.06 and now my ML.

[Flintlock1776]

I too have and love my first gen 50 cal Remmy 700ML. I believe the original books listed 120gr poured charge I could be wrong though. They upped that to 150gr of pellets when they introduced the second generation guns with the 26" barrels. You won't burn a full 3 pellets in the 24" tube.

The only way to find out if the BDC reticle is accurate is to shoot it at the specified distances. There's no way Nikon can tell you how your gun will shoot with a specific load....period.

I see you mention 60gr pellets. Those are for 54 caliber guns and will not fit the bore of a 50 cal. You didn't mention what caliber your gun is.

FWIW,

I've tried both versions of the 209 conversions and found that I got much better accuracy using musket caps instead of the 209 primers.

hangunnr

Ouch! I missed that on the 60 grain pellets. That means back to powder:( as I use a 50 cal ML.

I used to use three 50 gr. loads until I read the instructions:eek: I wonder if I could stay with that knowing these product mfgs. always put a cushion in their recommendations.

[hangunnr]

I use 3 pellets in my 24" barreled 50 and haven't seen any issue other than not acheiving a complete burn on the last pellet. Accuracy with this combo is still outstanding. I use 120gr of pellets in my 26" barreled 45 Remington ML. I couldn't find decent accuracy with a heavier charge.

When Remington first introduced this gun the 150gr craze hadn't started yet. Most guns were listed at 120gr quite simply because you couldn't burn much more with that length barrel. After 150gr became more of a standard, Remington started calling their guns "magnum charge" capable but mechanically there wasn't any difference other than 2" more barrel.

Do you have a 24" or 26" barrel?

hangunnr