7MM Rem. Mag. Comparison

[Al3006]

I have read/heard somewhere that Swift A Frame and Nosler Partition are compable....is this so ?

I ask because I just bought a used BAR in 7MM Rem.Mag. & have used Remington Premier A Frame 180 grain for both moose & deer with great results. I am looking at the Remington A Frame in 160 grain factory load (that is all that is available) to use for both moose & deer....what do you think ? I am getting tired of looking at all the comparisons and would like to know that the A Frame is "good as it gets " for me ... My shots can range usually less than 100 yards but occassionally up to 350....my .30-06 was a killing machine at those distances but the continuous jamming of the infamous Remington Jam-o-matic has finally got to me after 40 years and my son now says that he wants to inherit the "problem. He is an auto mechanic and figures that he and his buddies can fix it ?

[PA_RIDGE_RUNNER]

I shoot a 7mm but have no experience with the swift a frame bullet. I do however have great experience with the nosler partition in 160 gr. I have shot from Sierra 120, 140 Hornady 154 to the Nosler 160 gr. All shot very well but when I can shoot a 3/4 inch group at 100 yds and still under moa at 200 and 300 yds I ain't changing for nothing. I did find out that the mighty 7mm will not shoot through heavy brush any better than anything else. I missed a really nice 10 point buck twice a couple weeks ago but my son layed it down.

I would not be afraid of using my 7mm with 160 partitions for any game up to moose. All my and my sons hits on whitetails have been pass throughs even when both front shoulders are hit.

Edited December 11, 2008 by PA_RIDGE_RUNNER

[Tink]

175 grain is best

I Guided in South Africa and s aw & Shot tons fo game with my 7 MM Reg Mag

99% of stuff was shot with Nosler partition 175 grain in early years 1970 1990 and later year after 1999 175 grain Barnes X Bullet

You will find if you shoot a 150 grain & the 175 Grain the 150 grain slug shoots lowerer

try it and see

Tink

[pendog]

I shoot Federal Fusion 150 grain in my 7MM

Deadly is all i can say. I would not hesitate to hunt any game with that load.

[High Country]

The simple answer to your question is that they are comparable.

The Swift A-frame is a slightly tougher bullet and will retain more of its original weight (about 95%) compared to the Nosler Partition (about 70%).

The Partition bullet was designed as a two part bullet, the first part (the exposed nose) is designed to rapidly expand generating massive trama (this part frequently "disappears" on recovered bullets resulting in the 70% figure); while the core remains intact to drive the bullet through the animal.

I would not hesitate to shoot either of them into a moose, and seriously doubt that there is any reasonable difference in performance.

In my 7mm Remington Magnum, the NP in Federal's Premium ammo prints about 3/4 MOA groups, with 5 shot clover-leaf's not unusual.

[yooperkenny]

I shoot Federal Fusion 150 grain in my 7MM. Deadly is all i can say.

Me too! They group better out of my Tikka than Federal Premiums so I choose them for caribou hunting in northern Quebec and yes they are deadly. I recovered one that had passed through the caribou's chest and lodged under the hide of the far leg and it had mushroomed perfectly and held together well. Once I use up my Federals (Sierra Gamekings) I'll be using the Fusions exclusively for whitetails too - can't beat the price.

I would not hesitate to hunt any game with that load.

I have to respectfully disagree with you here. Federal promotes Fusions as deer hunting ammo - since caribou are "thin skinned" game like whitetails I didn't hestitate to make the jump but it seems quite a leap to assume they'll perform as well on moose.

If anyone has any info or experiences to the contrary I'd be very interested!

[colorado bob]

AI------Get the Swift A frame & don't look back. It's as good bullet as is out there. Same basic idea as the Nolser. You that load your good to go for anything in NA except maybe the Big Bears in AK. CB

[OUTSIDER]

My dad is diehard 7MM Remington Mag, he shoots the 140 grain PSP Ultra on deer, he has been known to take them at ridiculous distances with astounding accuracy. He also has taken a Wild Boar that weighed 225 lbs with that same load, and an elk with the 160 grain swift a frame, shot his 345 inch utah elk at 275 yds, complete pass though lung shot. Hoped this helped!!

[pendog]

I have to respectfully disagree with you here. Federal promotes Fusions as deer hunting ammo - since caribou are "thin skinned" game like whitetails I didn't hestitate to make the jump but it seems quite a leap to assume they'll perform as well on moose.

If anyone has any info or experiences to the contrary I'd be very interested!

I should have expounded more.

I had an experience this year with the fusions that made me a believer. I shot through 6 inches of a tree (Thought it was behind the deer:o) at 100 yards a still struck the deer i was aiming at. Amazing still was how much of the bullet weight remained. It still went through the deers quarter and lodged in the far side under the skin.

I will try to post pics of the tree but they are on my cell phone only. The bullet pics i will post, i have never had a bullets core and jacket remain intact like this did.

Do i know for a fact that it will take down a moose better than others....i don't know....but a tree and a deer combined couldn't stop it. I will try to aim better next time lol:)