buckbuster11 Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 No GM is going to hand a guy millions to play fullback. And yes Tebow is calling his shots. Do you think anybody is going to draft him as a fullback knowing he'll refuse to play the position? Ask the Chargers about that. Eli Manning flat our told them he wouldn't play for them, so what happened? They traded him. Let me ask you something, if Crennel went and told your boy Brady tomorrow that next year he was going to be starting H-back, how do you think that would go over? This is all nonsense conversation anyway. More than/then one team is going to be willing to take a chance at him to play QB and they dang well should. If he can do half of what he is doing in college in the NFL he'll be worth it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted December 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 You think he'll refuse to play the position? I'm not saying someone is going to draft him in the 3rd round to play fullback and then pay him #1 overall pick QB money DB. But they'll sign him to a contract for about a million a year for 3 or 4 years...that's millions. Since he does have some dynamics and big play ability, and especially with this "Wildcat" craze the NFL is experiencing, I'm willing to bet he'll be used more extensively than the average NFL Hback and he'll also throw out of that package which is something the average NFL Hback doesn't do either...so he'll warrant more money than the average NFL Hback. You realize Colt McCoy is projected as a 3rd rounder right? Tebow is a much better college player, but McCoy is a better pro prospect at the QB position. Tebow is 240 lbs. with a 4.5 4.6ish 40 time. Those are pretty solid numbers for a fullback, and that's where he'll play. If he wants to get paid to play football- he won't have a choice- and so, he's not calling the shots. No prospect calls the shots. Unless of course he wants to play in the CFL or something. Of course, the Lions are picking first so they'll probably take him as their franchise QB. Hmmm...I wonder if McMillen was still there whether or not he'd take Crabtree. btw- you've actually seen him throw a football, haven't you? If you have and you know anything, you should know he's no pro QB. John, step into my office....because you're freaking fired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckbuster11 Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 Where are you getting that I think he will be a good QB? DB, good back and read my posts. I've said twice already he won't be a good QB. You are like talking to a 3 year old with ADD. Read closely so I don't have to type this for the 4th time. He will not be a good pro QB. However, he will be drafted as a QB, and that is the position he will play. Somebody with his success and his numbers doesn't go to the NFL to play a different position. I mean heck lets just take Crabtree and make him a defensive lineman and take Bradford and make him a running back while we are at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted December 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 (edited) Where are you getting that I think he will be a good QB? DB, good back and read my posts. I've said twice already he won't be a good QB. You are like talking to a 3 year old with ADD. Read closely so I don't have to type this for the 4th time. He will not be a good pro QB. However, he will be drafted as a QB, and that is the position he will play. Somebody with his success and his numbers doesn't go to the NFL to play a different position. I mean heck lets just take Crabtree and make him a defensive lineman and take Bradford and make him a running back while we are at it. I've never once suggested you think he'd be a good QB. It's not that I'm a 4 year old, it's that you're missing the piont. I forget that since my IQ is so much higher, sometimes I have to dumb things down for you. Here's the dumbed-down version. You admit that we're both sitting here at our collective computers knowing that he won't be a good QB...but yet you think millionaire NFL General Managers won't realize this...or even worse...you think they'll overlook this fact and draft him as a QB and pay him to play QB because "he's calling the shots." The reality is that the guy is a proven talent on the football field, so someone is going to want to use him on their own field. So immediately they're going to think how this can be done...since they'll realize he won't hack it at QB they're going to look for another position. I'm suggesting that since a fullback/Hback position would be the most natural and easy transition...that's what where he'll play. I could see tight end, but I'm sure he's not an experienced blocker and route runner. Since he's the size of an NFL fullback and lines up in the backfield as a run-first QB now that makes since. But, I'm also sure he's not experienced as a lead blocker so I don't think they'll have him do that much either. That leads me to believe that he'll be used creatively as an Hback and will probably throw some passes out of a "wildcat" like formation. btw- they take college defensive ends and make them outside linebackers all the time...they take college QBs and make them wide receivers all the time (like what will happen to Pat White from West Virginia). It's not like this is a new idea, it just so happens to be a position that most guys aren't shifted to, but that doesn't mean it won't happen. As a matter of fact, Tebow was recruited to UF as an "athlete" and they weren't sure where he'd play. They hoped QB and it was able to work out for them...but if a guy isn't a handsdown QB in college, he's definitely not one at the highest level. School's out. Edited December 10, 2008 by muggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VABuckSlayer Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 If the Raiders drafted Russell to play QB then somebody will draft Tebow to play QB. I agree though... an Hback position would be more fitting for him. I don't see him as a top rated NFL QB either. Now... back to BB and Muggsy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSGB Posted December 10, 2008 Report Share Posted December 10, 2008 None of the above. He won't be drafted in the first round, so he'll give up football to become a missionary and perform surgeries on kids in Africa. JK..........JK I would think he'd be a better tight end than anything. Who knows in todays sports world. He could be drafted as a QB for the Lions or somebody like BB11 says just to sell tickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckbuster11 Posted December 11, 2008 Report Share Posted December 11, 2008 I've never once suggested you think he'd be a good QB. It's not that I'm a 4 year old, it's that you're missing the piont. I forget that since my IQ is so much higher, sometimes I have to dumb things down for you. Here's the dumbed-down version. You admit that we're both sitting here at our collective computers knowing that he won't be a good QB...but yet you think millionaire NFL General Managers won't realize this...or even worse...you think they'll overlook this fact and draft him as a QB and pay him to play QB because "he's calling the shots." Did anybody on this planet think Vince Young was going to be a good QB? I know you and I sure didn't. Guess what? An NFL GM took him in the first round to play QB. How'd that work out? Again, I have no idea what Tebow is like. But given the fact that he is going to come out as a national champion and at least one time heismann winner at QUATERBACK.....I'm guessing during the combine when some GM comes and tells him of this great idea of turning him into a fullback, Tebow will tell him to go fly a kite. And why would you waste a draft pick on somebody that you already know doesn't want to do what you want him to do? Try and keep up muggsbow. I just might learn you yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted December 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 (edited) Did anybody on this planet think Vince Young was going to be a good QB? I know you and I sure didn't. Guess what? An NFL GM took him in the first round to play QB. How'd that work out? Again, I have no idea what Tebow is like. But given the fact that he is going to come out as a national champion and at least one time heismann winner at QUATERBACK.....I'm guessing during the combine when some GM comes and tells him of this great idea of turning him into a fullback, Tebow will tell him to go fly a kite. And why would you waste a draft pick on somebody that you already know doesn't want to do what you want him to do? Try and keep up muggsbow. I just might learn you yet. Put your money where your mouth is. btw- Vince Young's recent failure is all the more reason a team won't draft Tebow to play QB. And, even though they both have terrible mechanics, VY was a better passer. Edited December 12, 2008 by muggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unioncountyslayer Posted December 20, 2008 Report Share Posted December 20, 2008 I know I'm in the minority, but I actually think he'll be a decent QB in the NFL. Under Florida's run and gun system he doesn't throw as much as he will in the NFL. But the kid's got a pretty darn accurate arm, and a strong one at that. I could be wrong, but I don't think he's athletic enough to make it anywhere else. I guess we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illinois59 Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 I think he will get the same treatment that Eric Crouch got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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