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Can somebody explain to me the idea behind camo with stainless? Doesn't that seem to be two opposing philosphies of finish on the same gun? Just curious.

Doc

Slightly off topic, but to answer your question - Yes, when a stainless gun is brand new, the metal will have a slight "shine" to it. But as it ages, it takes on a dull gray patina that makes it much less noticeable in the woods. Also, the stainless takes paint very well if you decide to camo that too.
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So what are your "obviouse reasons"?

Mine for getting it are pretty simple. 1. My son wanted a camo gun. 2. I wanted it to have a SS barrel.

If you are saying the SS defeats the purpose of the camo stock, would it be better if it was a wood stock or a black synthetic?

Well, I'm not trying to get anyone all upset, but I just thought that if camo was an important feature to someone, they most likely would not want a nice shiny stainless steel barrel sticking out of the middle of it. Most guns that I have seen that bother to get into camo at all are camo all the way, i.e. stock and barrel are both camo. Otherwise, why bother to have camo at all? Yes, I do believe the stainless defeats the purpose of camo unless it's just a look that you like.

You asked for thoughts......those are mine.

Doc

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I you wanted a stainless steel barrel because it won't need any care, think again. They pit and erode just like carbon steel it just takes longer. I've purchased some used SS firearms that had damage from lack of maintenance. If you do try to camo the SS barrel tape tends to get goey if you heat it up good while shooting it.

Mark

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Camo is cool no matter what its on...and Stainless is just as cool...so why not together! Thats a good looking gun Jeff. With a deer rifle...the "shiney" barrel isn't much concern. I could see having a complete camo gun for say turkey hunting where the action is up close and personal. For me...its about looks and function.

As for care on stainless...it depends on the grade of stainless the manufacture uses. I have a Ruger M77 stainless that is shiney as the day I bought it....with little to no care.

I also have a Win. model 70 stainless that is a dull "brushed" look from day one. It needs cleaned and oiled once in a while or it will get surface rust and start to pit.

If the manufacture uses say a 410 grade stainless steel...it still has carbon properties in it which will rust.

If the manufacture uses a 300 series (ie: 316 grade stainless) it is a "non-magnectic" grade with no carbon in it...it should NEVER rust.

Try putting a magnet on your stainless...if it sticks...you have some carbon steel properties in the stainless.

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That is a sharp looking rifle Jeff. I like the stainless barrels too. Had hoped to get an AR in .308, but with things that happen it is not likely that is going to happen. May end up later on getting a tikka T3 with the laminated stock and stainless barrel. Sharp looking rifles too in my opinion.

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Let us know how it shoots once it gets some range time.

BTW, Shooting USA did an interesting show on Howa's US importer, Legacy Sports International, and its founder, Gene Lumsden. From that show, I'd say a Legacy-imported/assembled/sold Howa could be a real shooter. See http://www.shootingusa.com/SIGHTING_IN_SHOWS/27-18_LEGACY/27-18_legacy.html

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  • 2 weeks later...
Let us know how it shoots once it gets some range time.

Took it to the range this morning, fired three shots of Remington 150 Gr. Core-lokt SP at a 2' wide by 3' tall target and had nothing on the paper. So I switched to the 7 mm Mag and did a little shooting with it. At the break, I went down and checked the paper up close, nothing. So I figured I would try a couple of shots to just try and get on paper and if I couldn't I would move to the 50 yard range.

The first shot I held about a 18 inches above the paper and low and behold I had a hole about 5 inches high and 4 inches right of the bullseye. Ended up shooting a little over a box of shells and never could get a good group, I would get 2 shots almost touching and then the third would end up a couple of inches somewhere else, gonna switch over and try a couple of different brands and see what that does. It is a nice shooting gun, though.

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