Need a lil help from Non-Wisconsin Deer hunters...


Randy

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I heard a rumor today that WI DNR is looking at going to one buck per hunter regardless of the weapon you take it with. This person told me that other states already have this rule and that is why WI is giving this serious thought. They seem to think that there will be more doe killed as apparently they think hunters "just have to kill" something. :rolleyes: How many bucks can you harvest and by what means? I don't know what the WDNR is thinking but if this is true, I'll never buy another gun license again... :mad:

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2 here in Illinois Randy by any means legal lol. Personally I would rather see a earn a doe program where there has to be a doe taken by anybody residents or non residents before a buck can be harvested.

It is getting tougher and tougher to find a mature buck nowadays. I again personally think that todays hunting shows have the general population thinking they have to kill a buck or they are just not " The Man". So a lot of 2 1/2 year olds and 3 1/2 year olds get whacked.

If more does were taken the harvest numbers would go up and the doe to buck ratio would staighten out a little bit. This would also allow more bucks to reach maturity. It is extremely hard to hunt the whole darn season and pass on 3 1/2 year old deer as I know personally from this year. I only passed 2 deer that were that old, the rest were younger than that. I also think the buck I just killed Friday was a 5 1/2 year or 6 1/2 year old buck.

That means my odds of seeing one next year are not very good. Sorry for the long post but things have to change for mature deer to be able to get to maturity in my opinion.

Kirk:o

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2 here in Illinois Randy by any means legal lol. Personally I would rather see a earn a doe program where there has to be a doe taken by anybody residents or non residents before a buck can be harvested.
We already have what WI calls "earn-a-buck". Which means you have to shoot a doe before your Buck tag is valid. At this point WI allows one buck with the bow, and one buck with the gun or ML.

From a Trophy management perspective I think it's a great idea. WDNR seems to think it will get more antlerless deer killed. I don't understand that logic. I would rather shoot a buck with the bow and skip Gun Season all together. So, if I'm not in the gun stand the doe get a free ride because I'm not even there. :rolleyes: i just don't get their thinking. :confused:

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Indiana went to a one buck rule in 2002 I believe and at first I was upset about that, but after seeing the results first hand I'm completely behind this decision. Where I hunt this has allowed several deer to grow a little bit b/c we have several hunters that would take 2 bucks per year. Usually shooting the first average buck that came by and then not wanting to eat a gun tag killing another one. I've be far seen a big increase in the size and number of mature bucks in my area. I actually wish Indiana would impliment a earn-a-buck, or a 4 on one side restriction as well.....

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The county I hunt in TX is 2 bucks all seasonss combined. A lot of counties have antler restrictions. The county I hunt will be inforcing the antler restriction next year.

Only spikes and bucks with an inside spread greater than 13 inches are legal. The antlers have to be branched on both sides too.

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Here is MO you can shoot 2 bucks with a bow (1 before gun season and 1 after gun season...or 2 after gun season..just not on the same day), 1 with gun and as many antlerless as you want to buy tags for.

I wish MO would do something different.....Seems many many young/bucks or average sized bucks get shot year in and year out. JUST this year the counties I hunt in went to a AR...4 points on 1 side. I am hoping in years to come this will help those younger bucks get to live a bit longer.....Only time will tell. ;)

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One buck per permit season, no limit on does:

Fall Bow (42 days):

First deer must be antlerless: Sept. 13-Oct. 3, 2008

First deer may be antlered or antlerless: Oct. 4-31, 2008

Season bag limit is unlimited antlerless deer and ONE antlered deer.

Permit Bow (51 days): Nov.1-Dec. 24, 26-31, 2008

Season bag limit is unlimited antlerless deer. ONE antlered deer may be harvested if the Antlered

Buck Bow Permit is purchased. (See Note above).

Youth Day - Bow (1 day): Sept. 27, 2008

Youth Day - Firearm (1 day): Nov. 22, 2008

Season bag limit is one deer of either sex each day for any qualified youth hunter only. Any deer

harvested by a qualified youth hunter accompanied by a similar licensed, non-shooting adult

mentor is NOT included as part of the bag limit for the Fall Bow or Six-day Firearm Season.

Six-day Firearm (6 days): Dec. 8-13, 2008

Season bag limit is two antlered deer. However, if a hunter harvests two antlered deer, he/she

forfeits the opportunity to harvest an antlered deer during the Permit Shotgun Season. Only one

buck may be taken at a time.

Permit Muzzleloader (46 days):

Antlerless deer only: Dec. 8-13, 2008

Antlered or Antlerless: Dec. 1, 2, 15, 16, 20-24, 26-31, 2008; Jan. 1- 31, 2009 Season bag limit is unlimited antlerless deer. ONE antlered deer may be harvested if the Antlered Buck Muzzleloader Permit is purchased. However, if the hunter chooses not to purchase the Antlered Buck Muzzleloader Permit, then the bag limit is unlimited antlerless deer only. Two deer

may be taken at a time. (See Note above).

Permit Shotgun Season (28 days):

Antlerless deer only: Dec. 8-13, 2008

Antlered or Antlerless: Dec. 17-19, 2008; Jan. 10-31, 2009

Season bag limit is unlimited antlerless deer. ONE antlered deer may be harvested if the Antlered Buck Shotgun Permit is purchased. However, if the hunter harvests two antlered deer during the Six-day firearm Season, then the bag limit is unlimited antlerless deer only. Two deer may be taken

at a time. (See Note above).

Winter Bow (27 days): Jan. 1-31, 2009

Season bag limit is unlimited antlerless deer and ONE antlered deer.

NJ 2008-2009 Deer Regulation Sets

* Legal hunting hours: ½ hour before sunrise to ½ hour after sunset. No deer hunting on

Sundays.

* For more details, see Deer Hunting Regulations section in the 2008 Hunting Digest

Note: Only one antlerless permit, per zone, may be purchased in each permit season. If a hunter purchases an antlerless permit for more than one zone in a season, the Antlered Buck Bonus Permit is valid for a ONE TIME USE in only ONE of the corresponding zones for that season.

Properly licensed hunters are still limited to ONE antlered buck per season, regardless of the number of antlerless permits purchased.

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Limit on bucks has been 3 statewide here for about 10 years now Randy. Before that it was like 11 total if you tagged out during each segment. Pretty crazy. Our deer have really not improved though, at least not where we are hunting, actually the quality here has really suffered the last 4 or 5 years, I attribute that to an increase in the number of hunters on top of us. Tennessee officials talks like the age class of deer here is improving, but we just don't see it around here. Some of the stuff they put out in their handbook the past few years on how buck quality is improving I would have to disagree with.

Does depend on the county you hunt. We are in a liberal county, allowed to take 3 does a day for the duration of the season which is a bad move on the part of whoever made that decision since this county does not have a very high deer density.

The wife heard a few guys talking in wal mart back about a month ago when she was picking up some things, and one asked her if she hunted, she answered yes. Somehow they got on the topic of numbers of deer killed and one of the guys said he killed 14 and was having trouble finding anyone to take the last few he killed. He said his buddy killed 17, but he could not keep up with him! My wife walked off at that point in disgust. I have no problem with a guy killing that many deer if they are going to eat them or give them to someone who is going to, but when it is all about a competition to see how many you can kill and not even being able to give them away, kinda seems like waste to me.:(

I would not be against a 1 buck limit here, would be nice too if the wildlife resource folks had the support they need and were able to do a little better about stopping poachers.

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Total for the entire state of Texas is 3 bucks, all seasons combined. Tags are not allocated by season, so if you use your buck tag(s) during the early bow only season, you won't have any additional tags for the any weapon (firearm or bow) season.

Most counties are either 1 or 2 bucks maximum, based on the current year's deer census (yes, we actually count the deer every year and base the limits on biological data :D). With the limited amount of public land, most hunters lease land and therefore only hunt in a single county, so they are subject to whatever regs are in place for that county. I'm fortunate to have property to hunt in 3 different counties, so I could theoretically take 3 bucks.

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I am greatly in favor of a 1 buck per years structure. The odds of getting an arrow or bullet in one buck worth shooting is slim let alone two. One buck per year will surely help the buck age structure.

I would also like to see the group hunting for bucks go away. More kids and young hunters in larger hunting groups will get to tag their own deer and not have to give up their tags to the same old guys who are the standers on the deer drives. JMHO.

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We can kill three. I think one with bow and one with any weapon sounds like a good number here. It doesn't matter though, there are way too many who do not follow limits anyway.

MS sure needs to go to a tagging sytem or something. That would at least keep the honest hunters honest.

MS used to be a 5 buck state but dropped it down to 3 bucks back in 1995 if memory serves. I personally think 3 bucks is a good number. We have ~1,750,000 deer in this state according the the state's estimate. With 3 bucks I can take one mature (4 1/2 or older) inferior (cull) buck out of the herd and still have 2 bucks left for a trophy. I try to do that every year. About 10 days ago I killed a 5 1/2 year old inferior rack buck that only had 5 scorable points on his head. I sure didn't want him breeding anymore does with our rut just starting to crank up down here. I took out 2 mature 6 points in each of the past 2 years too.

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SIX bucks a year for a hunter in NJ. :mad: Unlimited antlerless in archery and the gun season with the proper permit. We used to have earn a buck in the archery and muzzleloader season which only amounted to saving bucks for the gun hunter who could shoot 2.....Management is for permit money, not for the deer. I would love to see the buck limits go back to one buck for archery and one for firearm. Putting a limit on antlerless would also be in the best interest of the herd in places where the deer should be. For example in the woods in the woods.....

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Personally I would have no problem with the 1 buck restriction...like someone above said, its hard enough getting one, let alone two...while were at I wish they would do away with the earn a buck all together, and reduce the antlerless permits...would like to see something like 1 buck and 2 does for the whole year, gun and bow season...JMO

Also, wouldnt bother me at all if they got rid of rifles and just went to muzzloader and shotgun seasons, dont really care much for rifle season around here anyway...again JMO

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u know i kinda agree with ya jordan2388 but then i want a eab up here but i dont want it either we got a lot of guys that come up here and shoot anything they see and if they make a bad shot just leave and dont go after it

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