GWSmith Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Shot placement on the 2 deer I killed ThanksGiving Week last year with my Remington 7400 in .270 dropped both deer where they stood. From a Ground Blind with a solid rest and having practiced constantly out to 300yds made it happen. At 225 and 235yds Remington Factory Core-Lokt PSP 130gr. ammo folded one deer and the other deer got lifted off it's hooves and landed on it's side DEAD. Some may not believe a .270 has that kind of power but IMO dead deer dont lie! If the conditions were not as perfect as they were(solid rest,zero wind, and broadside stationary deer) I would have waited to see if they got closer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PA_RIDGE_RUNNER Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 I also have both a 270 and 7mm. Used the 270 from the mid 70s to a couple of years ago. Killed a whole bunch of critters with it. I then got a 7mm from my father in law and have used it since then. I use 160 gr nosler partitions and am real pleased with its action on deer. I would not hesitate to take either one out for my next deer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 I've shot a 270 A-Bolt for years, but if I go out west, i'm taking my weatherby. But like it has been mentioned, taking a deer at 500 yards reliably takes not only practice and skill, but also a good rangefinder and optics to make that adjustment. I'm not looking at a chart, but my guess is a 270 factory load is approaching a 5 foot drop at 500 yards. Best advice is to close the distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowana Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Well, I'm glad to see that someone brought up the fabled "Jack O'Connor". Anyone that has read gun magazines over the last 20 years probably knows more about the .270 win than any other rifle because Jack wrote about it so much. Shooting and reloading for numerous Win, Rem, Ruger and Savage rifles I personally find the 270 win to be inherently more accurate than the 7 mag. I have owned one 700 BDL that would consistently print about 1" at 100 yards at its best. I have had 3 270 Win's when loaded with 140 grain bullets (Ballistic Tip) would consistently print 1/2" groups at 100. My input....If you have a 7 mag that prints 1/2" or better at 100 yards.....DON'T SELL IT! Because at 500 yards, a deer looks awfully small and your rifle better be up to those 1/2" groups. As long as you shoot an animal broad side and your selected Cal/load can still achieve 1000 foot pounds of energy.....I consider cal a mute point. Ask any terrorist that was shot with a 5.56mm, 6.8 SPC, 7.62 or 50 BMG this question. This is what we use to sing to cadence in the MP core: Marksman Aim for center Sharpshooters Shoulder High But the Experts are a smil'in when we aim between the eyes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yotewannabe Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 I love my .270 and it is my primary hunting rifle. Last november i dropped a nice 8 pointer in his tracks at 250 yards with remington 130 grn core lokt. I had a perfect rest though. In my opinion, shot placement is key. I think a .270 will humanely kill a deer at 400 yards IF you can hit it in the vitals. And you need a good rest to shoot off of. everything is magnified at that distance so that if you flinch or move even a tiny bit, you are at a risk of missing or worse, wounding and not recovering an animal. Just putting my two cents in. Merry Christmas and God Bless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yotewannabe Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 I've shot a 270 A-Bolt for years, but if I go out west, i'm taking my weatherby. But like it has been mentioned, taking a deer at 500 yards reliably takes not only practice and skill, but also a good rangefinder and optics to make that adjustment. I'm not looking at a chart, but my guess is a 270 factory load is approaching a 5 foot drop at 500 yards. Best advice is to close the distance. a 130 grn core lokt bullet drops approximately 42" at 500. (out of my 22 inch barrel anyway) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMort Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 My 7mm rem savage will print key hole groups at 100 yards, and shoot Less than moa at 300. The 7mm if you can hold steady will drop deer well past 300. Shot one in 2005 that was lasered at a hair over 500, just flattened it. Both shoulders pass through with a 140 grain sierra bullet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterbobb Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 I would like to start out by saying that the 7MM Mag is definatly a better choice in all situations. Second, I can't believe how many people on here are talking about taking 500 yards shots at deer. I think you should all be working on your stalking skills and stop worrying about which rifle you can shoot the farthest with. Third I would epoxy the bases but not the rings. You never know when you might want to switch scopes. Applying epoxy to the rings makes them pretty much a permanent atachment. :gun2: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocMort Posted December 23, 2009 Report Share Posted December 23, 2009 Put some loc tite on the bases and rings you can change if need be but will hold them tight. As far as a 500 yard shot on a deer, if it is within your ability, and you feel comfortable taking it then I have no problem with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grady269 Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 The best gun is...... There is always a lot of talk about the best Caliber... The winner is the one in the rifle you are most comfortable with. I have a good friend of mine who is 71 years old. I have known the man for over 30 years. Every day of hunting season he carries the same Winchester Model 70 in .257 Roberts. I have never known him to miss, he handloads, he practices, he sleeps with that rifle. Find the right rifle and marry it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m gardner Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 I've owned 7, 270 win. rifles and have shot probably close to 100 deer with them and a half dozen elk. I spent all day saturdays shooting prarie dogs and usually took one 270 with me to use. It's a very accurate cartridge in a quality rifle. I've shot it enough to have worn out the barrels of several of them. I have shot 3 deer at the 450 yard mark. All were one shot kills. One was laying facing me with his head showing and I put the 150 grain Speer Grand Slam under his eye and it angled out through the back of his head (prairie dogs are good for something if only for practice). The other two I shot through the lungs. I like something more powerful for elk like the 338-06. The 270 win. is a wonderful deer cartirdge especially for old frail guys like me.. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle john Posted December 25, 2009 Report Share Posted December 25, 2009 Something else on holding a scope in the rings: put a little powdered rosin in the rings before setting the scope in them. The scope will come out easily, it cleans up easily, AND it holds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowana Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 I was hoping someone would bring up Jack O'Connor's name. May we be struck by lightning if we don't when discussing the 270 win. What we are comparing are .277 inch and .284 inch bullets. The 7mag has the powder capacity and capability to handle heavier bullets....and in theory.....provide more down range energy...that's on paper and in theory. However, neither are 500 yard rifles. Those are the .338 Ultras, 338-378 Weatherby, 338 Lapau and some of the 30 Cal's that hold 100+ grains of powder. I like big and use a 338-378 in Montana every year. My guide and his daughter use a 7 Mag and a 270 win. Both have shot twice as many Elk than I ever will. Did the Elk complain.....I reckon not. So.....Jack O'connor....don't roll over in your grave. We are all trying to convince ourselves that bigger is better...but all the dead elk and deer shot with your beloved 270 win..keep the fire of debate alive. Yes, your legacy lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowana Posted December 27, 2009 Report Share Posted December 27, 2009 Oh....as far as the 7 Mag out shining the 300 WSM.....Double Hmmmmmmm.........I can't say ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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