bowhuntnsmycrack Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 for a long time i was an anti high fenced hunter until i was offered a trip to take a fallow doe. i figured you cant you judge it till you try it right! well i took the first fallow doe i saw because i only had 1 day to hunt and it was just in all means fun for the meat hunter. i am no trophy hunter by anymeans because you cannot eat the antlers but then again i wont pass on a buck either. but i hate how people are critisizing me for hunting high fence ONCE! because whats the difference in hunting in a 200 acre high fence and fishing in a lake or pond. the fish only have to the shore line and thats as far as they can go. and people say fishing and hunting is toally different and i ask them how, because you have the opportunity to let the fish go but as for hunting once you squeeze that trigger its all overfor the game you hunt. when i was up at the game ranch i saw things that would fit maine and new hampshire perfectly and made me really think about how much revenue could be brought to the state from the elk, fallow deer, red deer, and the boar if the state just stocked the animals and waited 10 years for them to grow and have a lottery to hunt them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Cool. Sounds like you have yourself convinced. If it's legal, and you like it, what do you care what others think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 If it's legal, and you like it, what do you care what others think? Yep. If you are happy with your hunt, that is all that really matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirkV Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 That's right to each their own! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 Yep, there ya go. If it's your cup of tea then have it ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texan_Til_I_Die Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 There's a huge difference between a caged hunt, where the animals are in a small area with little or no cover, and a high fenced hunt on a decent sized piece of property. I'm guessing that 99.99% of your critics have never experienced a high fenced hunt and have no real clue what it's like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebeilgard Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 i can't stand schnapps. whatever the flavor, i can't stand it. that doesn't make schnapps bad and lots of folks enjoy it. just not me. point is, it doesn't matter what i like and don't. it matters to you what you like. so, if you enjoyed the hunt go for it. forget what others think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckee Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 There's a huge difference between a caged hunt, where the animals are in a small area with little or no cover, and a high fenced hunt on a decent sized piece of property. I'm guessing that 99.99% of your critics have never experienced a high fenced hunt and have no real clue what it's like. I agree. and Ditto to all the other comments above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
layin on the smackdown Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 (edited) I don't think we are comparing apples to apples here team...I really only have a major issue with hunting high fences for native species. If they are native, and still running wild in this country, i don't think there is any reason why one would need/want to hunt them in an enclosed area. In this case, however, he was hunting a non native animal in a high fenced area. I am guessing the only other way you could persue this animal is if you left the country and went to their native land, which gets pretty expensive. Also, some of the non-native animals that are grown in high fenced areas might not be able to survive without high fences due to several underlying factors that are geographically specific to North America, more specifically the US: natural predetors, ecoysystem and climate. That and there could always be the potential of spreading foreign viruses/diseases if they were not contained in high fences. That being said, i still don't think it is as challenging as hunting without high fences, but i have never done it either. And without some of these high fence operations, hunters from North America might not ever get the opportunity to get so intimate with such exotic animals, much less an opportunity to harvest one. While on the subject, i guess you could say that i entirely disagree with hunting White Tails and Elk in high fenced areas...that just does not seem like sport to me. sorry for the rant... Congrats on your hunt, glad to hear you had a good time and got to harvest one of those fascinating animals...now, where are the pics? Edited January 5, 2009 by layin on the smackdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWSmith Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 There's a huge difference between a caged hunt, where the animals are in a small area with little or no cover, and a high fenced hunt on a decent sized piece of property. I'm guessing that 99.99% of your critics have never experienced a high fenced hunt and have no real clue what it's like. I agree 100%... No person can take away the Joy of hunting my Father experienced a few years ago at this place: http://www.royalrut.com/ It was his dream hunt and he enjoyed it so much he went back the next year as well! We even talked about going together in the next year or two. He saw a gate when they entered the property but never saw a fence afterwards. His eyes lit up when he was telling me about his experiences there listening to the bugles he had never heard before in his life. I dont believe anyone could convince him he was not hunting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowhuntnsmycrack Posted January 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 well in maine and new hampshire we do not have elk and even a travel to colorado or any of the western states are very expensive so taking an elk here shouldnt be critisized either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adjam5 Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 As long as its legal, whatever floats your boat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m gardner Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 I hunt as often as I can and take lots of low success percentage hunts to be able to do so. I love to roam and walk and struggle with the puzzles of finding and killing an animal with a bow where there may only be 1 in 10 square miles. I kill my share of animals too. I couldn't bring myself to hunt on only 200 acres. There are millions of acres of public land out here and I haven't even made a dent in exploring it all. I just can't explain the feeling I had last week when I finally saw the 30 inch mulie buck who's track I found a month ago. Got to 83 yards of him. Wind swirled. Maybe next time. God made us all different for a reason I guess. Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidd Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 not for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodnottygy Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 high fence hunting I have never hunted behind a high fence. I raise whitetails for a hobby,(very small scale) and sell to these places. I have to sell them or I will go broke feeding them! I have a problem with hunting whitetails that do not fear humans.It is not that the size matters... it is that they do not fear humans. I can feed some of these deer by hand... and then are sold to hunt? Sorry.... but this is not hunting... it's shooting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodnottygy Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 high fenced hunting I want to add something. It is not how big the place is that is fenced in. It is the fact that the animals behind the fence, do not fear humans. Thus,to me, it is just shooting, not hunting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texastrophies Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 I want to add something. It is not how big the place is that is fenced in. It is the fact that the animals behind the fence, do not fear humans. Thus,to me, it is just shooting, not hunting. Have to completely disagree with that statement. As so often said, size does matter. It sounds like you raise them in a pen, or real small enclosure, and killing a deer either in something like that or one that was raised in something like that, would not be hunting. But, on a large ranch that is high fenced, it is a completely different scenario. The deer are still wild, and if and when you would hunt one of these places, you would not be able to tell any difference in the hunt from a place that was not high fenced. You might be able to tell through the quality of deer, as most high fenced operations also manage the deer to improve them through numerous methods, supplemental feeding, food plots, buck to doe ratio, water etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodnottygy Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 I sell my tame deer to these high fenced ranches. I have 2 acres enclosed and sell them to much bigger hunting preserves. If you want to believe that this is hunting and not shooting, go ahead. I sold a 175", 19 point buck to these places that I fed apples to from my hand. They turn them out of a pen and the bucks naturally explore their new home perimeters. I heard that some bowhunter shot it by paying big money. I know this... if that buck smelled a human, he would come closer. What would a wild buck do? I am a lot prouder with my 173" buck that I shot in the wild with my bow, than anyone that shot this 175" behind a fence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texastrophies Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 I sell my tame deer to these high fenced ranches. I have 2 acres enclosed and sell them to much bigger hunting preserves. If you want to believe that this is hunting and not shooting, go ahead. I sold a 175", 19 point buck to these places that I fed apples to from my hand. They turn them out of a pen and the bucks naturally explore their new home perimeters. I heard that some bowhunter shot it by paying big money. I know this... if that buck smelled a human, he would come closer. What would a wild buck do? I am a lot prouder with my 173" buck that I shot in the wild with my bow, than anyone that shot this 175" behind a fence. Have to completely disagree with that statement. As so often said, size does matter. It sounds like you raise them in a pen, or real small enclosure, and killing a deer either in something like that or one that was raised in something like that, would not be hunting. But, on a large ranch that is high fenced, it is a completely different scenario. The deer are still wild, and if and when you would hunt one of these places, you would not be able to tell any difference in the hunt from a place that was not high fenced. You might be able to tell through the quality of deer, as most high fenced operations also manage the deer to improve them through numerous methods, supplemental feeding, food plots, buck to doe ratio, water etc. Did you not read the bolded part above????????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Did you not read the bolded part above????????? Maybe he missed that Jeff. There are two simultaneoues threads running on this topic http://www.realtree.com/forums/showthread.php?t=81629. Been following both and kind of think they ought to be merged together to avoid potential for any confusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VermontHunter Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) To me this High fenced thing is so very "MOOT" .. it simply boils down to this IMHO .. If it's legal and it's something that an individual chooses to do, where is it right for any of us to judge it ?? .. :confused: You don't like it that's fine and dandy don't participate in it and don't watch it .. that simple .. It's like being next to a conversation you don't like,, simple solution, get up and move .. Edited January 14, 2009 by VermontHunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camoman1 Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Though not for me, i see no problems with high fence hunting. I wont criticize the way someone hunts because i wouldnt like it done to me. (As long as it is done ethically) Although technically because of the fences, i personally, dont see how the animals can be 'wild' or 'free ranging'. I will say i am certainly not impressed by the 'high roller' types who pay ridiculuous amounts of money to take a nice deer that, like mentioned before, would most likely share an apple for lunch with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Here's a question concerning a high fence scenario. McAlester Army Ammunition Plant has a draw hunt every year. Equipment is strictly traditional archery. Now the kicker, this place is behind a fence, for obvious reasons. So is this considered a high fence or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowhuntnsmycrack Posted January 18, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 the thing is these animals on the ranch i went to would bust you if the wind wasnt right i dont care if it was the boar deer or the elk. there are no whitetails up there if there was i wouldnt have gone. i dont beleive in high fence hunting with an animal thats right in your back yard such as whitetails and in maine there are no fallow deer or elk or even boar. and you say the animals are trained HA when i was looking for my deer i had 2 boar charge at me they turned the other way when i clicked off my saftey and yelled at it. so thats not true when it comes to the animals not being wild because if they were tamed they wouldnt try to attack you. my friend kara goes to a place in ny and she was almost run over by a bison. so to the whole animals are so used to humans i think thats a little false there bub. and when it really boils down to it, it does become fair chase when the animals act wild. they dont just stand there when they see a human and walk up to us and say here shoot me THEY RUN. my friend phil was supposed to shoot a red deer doe and never could get her close enough to shoot because she always circled down wind or she'd see us in the blind and blow and book it. so you can convic yourself that its like shooting a fish in a barrel but really its not. honestly i think its a good idea for all hunters to take a stab at it and if they dont like it dont do it again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grady269 Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 I watached one of the hunting shows a while back where Kasey Kahne killed a deer with a cow tag in it's ear in texas inside a high fence under a feeder. To me that just is not hunting, if you feed them and treat them like farm animals, it just does not seem like sport? $5 grand to kill a big buck? i noticed in the when he held the deer up the tag had been removed. It does not make sense to me, and why the fascination with deer? If your going to hunt farm animals inside a fence why not a real nice quality Black Angus? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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