Chrud Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Obviously there is a big dispute about who you guys like and don't like. So, whats your reason for not liking a driver? The two drivers I like the least are Jimmie Johnson and Jeff Gordon, in that order. The 48 is way too cocky. Anytime he gets into an accident, its always someone elses fault. Rockingham for example. He and Kenny Schrader make contact sending the 48 into the wall. It wasn't a racing thing to JJ though, Kenny shouldn't have been out on the track. And at Dover. Michael and Dave Blaney make contact and Jimmie can't avoid it. But, aparantly, the 15 and 23 (at the time) were just being idiots. Hmm. So a 2 time Daytona 500 Champion is an idiot? And Jeff Gordon. I tell ya, I don't like the guy, be he can drive a car. He had that stretch of 30+ wins in a short amount of time. I was getting tired of him winning every week and I still don't like him. I don't like some of his actions either. Like jumping all over KS at Darlington. The guy got spun, he's not going to dive down through traffic just so the 24 can get by. So, there are my reasons for why I don't like those guys. Now, why I like Dale Jr. He's the son of the greatest driver of all time. He worked his way up through local racing, up to Busch and now Cup. He hasn't had everything givin to him like some think. He's a great driver and seems like a pretty cool dude, based on his DVD. Now, let's see if any Gordon fans can get through a post without saying 8 sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Re: Whats Your Reason? I agree with you about #24! A little of him goes a long ways! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaDeerHunter Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Re: Whats Your Reason? OK. That post was for thoughts on the race not on Gordon and Junior. Oh well though. I like to see what everyone has to say. Me, I am a big #8 fan all the way. As for Jeff Gordon, like Chrud said in the other post, I don't hate him I dislike of him. same here, Jeff is a good race car driver no doubt about it but Im not a fan of his and i wouldn't go for him for any race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texastrophies Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Re: Whats Your Reason? This should be interesting. My dislikes: Gordon (both) Busch (both) Johnson Stewart almost all ford or dodge drivers Likes: Jr. Harvick Waltrip Schrader Reasons: Jeff Gordon: I agree he is a heck of a driver. But look at him, if he isn't gay he sure missed a heck of a chance. Really, I got tired of him winning so much, and posing a threat to my #1 driver. Plus he seems to whine a little to much when things don't go his way (just like Rusty). Robby Gordon: Too reckless. Kurt Busch: Again, don't like the way he looks or acts. Needs to grow up. Also has a combination of Robby Gordon/Rusty Wallace in him, he is a reckless whiner. Kyle Busch: Kurt's brother. J. Johnson: See Chrud explanation. Stewart: Drives for Home Depot, I can't ever find anything I need in that store. almost all ford or dodge drivers: Chevy is #1 Jr.: [ QUOTE ] He's the son of the greatest driver of all time. He worked his way up through local racing, up to Busch and now Cup. He hasn't had everything givin to him like some think. He's a great driver and seems like a pretty cool dude, based on his DVD. [/ QUOTE ] Harvick: Took over the ride of the Greatest Driver ever. Waltrip: Entertaining and you gotta give it to him, anybody that would stick with it for over 400 races without winning, loves what he is doing, and it shows. Plus he drives for the team built by the Greatest Driver ever. Schrader: Very entertaining, will race anything, and just seems like a good guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaDeerHunter Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Re: Whats Your Reason? [ QUOTE ] This should be interesting. My dislikes: Gordon (both) Busch (both) Johnson Stewart almost all ford or dodge drivers Likes: Jr. Harvick Waltrip Schrader Reasons: Jeff Gordon: I agree he is a heck of a driver. But look at him, if he isn't gay he sure missed a heck of a chance. Really, I got tired of him winning so much, and posing a threat to my #1 driver. Plus he seems to whine a little to much when things don't go his way (just like Rusty). Robby Gordon: Too reckless. Kurt Busch: Again, don't like the way he looks or acts. Needs to grow up. Also has a combination of Robby Gordon/Rusty Wallace in him, he is a reckless whiner. Kyle Busch: Kurt's brother. J. Johnson: See Chrud explanation. Stewart: Drives for Home Depot, I can't ever find anything I need in that store. almost all ford or dodge drivers: Chevy is #1 Jr.: [ QUOTE ] He's the son of the greatest driver of all time. He worked his way up through local racing, up to Busch and now Cup. He hasn't had everything givin to him like some think. He's a great driver and seems like a pretty cool dude, based on his DVD. [/ QUOTE ] Harvick: Took over the ride of the Greatest Driver ever. Waltrip: Entertaining and you gotta give it to him, anybody that would stick with it for over 400 races without winning, loves what he is doing, and it shows. Plus he drives for the team built by the Greatest Driver ever. Schrader: Very entertaining, will race anything, and just seems like a good guy. [/ QUOTE ] Have to agree! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randyman Posted July 28, 2004 Report Share Posted July 28, 2004 Re: Whats Your Reason? First, let me start by saying, contrary to what some of you might think, i am a big Dale Jr. fan. I like him for the very reasons Chrud does. I just love to rattle the cage of any Gordon haters! As for drivers i don't like, there really aren't any. I just like some more than others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NS whitetail Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 Re: Whats Your Reason? I don't like Tony Stewart. He is a good driver but with his stupid hotheaded moves at times, I think that he is going to get someone killed. Besides, he likes to pick on my favourite driver, Kasey K. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTF Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 Re: Whats Your Reason? My top guy is Waltrip, cause he should not be where he is today if track records indicate success. He was the lovable looser. He hung there and fought to be where he is today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted July 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 Re: Whats Your Reason? Probably should have added more to mine. My Favorites: Dale Sr/Jr - Already explained Jr. Sr was the greatest. He will always be the greatest. He was also a great sportsman and family man. Michael Waltrip - Teammate of Dale Jr. Very funny on camera. Doesn't get near the credit he should. Heck of a driver, not just on plate tracks. Kevin Harvick - Took over the greatest ride ever in NASCAR. He has a little "Intiminator" showing in him. Agressive, but doesn't wreck people let and right, like the 20 car. Martin Truex Jr - The next big thing, trust me. Drives for Dale Jr. Awesome driver in the Busch Series. He will be huge once in Nextel Cup in 2006. Elliott Sadler - Just a good guy. Big into hunting too. Does a lot of great things, especially for his niece. Other Dislikes: Kurt Busch - Whines too much. Doesn't think most wrecks are his fault. Wrecks his teammates too. Kyle Busch - Dweeb. The Kid isn't nearly as good as he could be. Needs a lot of growing and maturing. Rusty - I don't not like him that much, but I don't like him either. Whines and complains about every little thing NASCAR does. Puts a lot of blame on other drivers. You know TT, I was going to say that about JG, but I thought I'd be nice in this post. I'm just waiting for more Gordon fans to reply. It's almost likes its difficult to get a nice post from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimT Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 Re: Whats Your Reason? I do not dislike any drivers. I would rather see some win than others, but for the most part i pick a driver I would like to see win while I am watching the race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganHuntr1 Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 Re: Whats Your Reason? My Dislikes: Dale Jr. T.Stewart R.Gordon I dont like Jr. because in my mind, jr's fame shot up as soon as his dad died. And thats how he became popular. The only races the guy normally does good is restrictor plate races. NASCAR lets him get away with alot of stuff. (Intentionally spinning himself to keep himself on lead lap ) He is not a real racer. Accept the fact youre not as good as the leader. Tony Stewart recks everybody, its as if he has no brain. Same with R.Gordon. I like: Jeff Gordon Matt Kenseth Jimmie Johnson Jeff Gordon is my favorite driver. Sure he wins alot, but all around the guy is good. One heck of a racer. He can get a good finish out of a horrible car. Theyve got good teamwork in the pits too. Jimmie Johnson is another good driver. He is in his second year, and is beating everybody so far. He always gets a good finish. And right now he is beating both gordon, and Dale Jr.. So some of you better watch what you say about him, because hes beating good ole jr. I like Matt Kenseth because he is probably the most responsible driver out there. He starts a wreck, he plainly says, sorry, my fault. Others will blame another person. He can start in the very back, and get a good finish. Part of that is because of his pit crew. One of the best, possibly ever. Rivaling the Rainbow Warriors. He owes them alot of good finishes. Kenseth and his team are very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted July 29, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 Re: Whats Your Reason? I have to comment because not all your facts are correct. Jimmie Johnson is in his 3rd year. I don't understand what you mean by "getting away with stuff". He got a $25,000 fine and a 25 point deduction for it. Tony Stewart got that plus another $25,000 for punching someone. I would definately say Junior didn't get away with that. Junior's wins: Daytona (2) Talladega (4) Texas (1) Lowe's (1 - Winston) Richmond (2) Atlanta (1) Phoenix (1) Dover (1) Thats 7-6 in favor of unrestricted tracks. At least one Gordon fans has made their case so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaDeerHunter Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 Re: Whats Your Reason? Good point Churd. Good point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IowaDeerHunter Posted July 29, 2004 Report Share Posted July 29, 2004 Re: Whats Your Reason? Chrud not Churd and second although Junior is in second to Johnson right now when it comes down to the final ten races Junior will only be behind points. It is not always how the driver is good. He couldv'e got caught up in a wreck that was unavoidable, then finshed last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest TheDeerHunter Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 Re: Whats Your Reason? My Likes: 1. Dale Earnhardt-He is and forever will be the best NASCAR driver. A great champion, a great sportsman, a great friend. 2. Dale Earnhardt Jr.-Son of Dale Sr. heck of a driver and has alot of the Intimidator in him. 3. Michael Waltrip-DEI driver I agree funny and doesn't get enough credit. 4. Martin Truex Jr.-On his way with Chance 2 to a championship. 5. Tony Stewart-One of Jr.'s good friends and works well with Jr. at Talledega and Daytona. And that he doesn't like Jeff Gordon and he's always getting into trouble. Dislikes: 1. Jeff Gordon-He is annoying and just gets on my nerves. My girlfriend never watched NASCAR before she dated me and has watched it a little with me. And what is so funny is that she just dislikes him as much as I do. And some of the stuff she says about him are hellarious. 2. Robby Gordon- A complete retard, and doesn't know how to drive. How did he ever get a ride in NASCAR? Oh his first win was awesome! NOT! Passing Harvick under the caution was a real good move. Stupid 3. Kurt Busch-Big wine bag and a bad driver. He blocks so much and what he said at that one track about next week going to a real race track to the fans was pretty stupid. Just because you have a bad run at a particular track means you need to work a little harder and maybe do some testing at that track. 4. Rusty Wallace- Don't care for him at all. He and Earnhardt were always getting into it. 5. Sterling Marlin- He ran up behind Earnhardt Sr. at Daytona and got him loose. I really don't care for him either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted July 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 Re: Whats Your Reason? TDH, I need to make a fact correction for you too, because it's the right thing to do. Reckless Robby Gordon got his first win at Loudon where he did a sweet bump and run on Jeff Gordon. Now, do you like his first win?! I could have sworn that there were more than one Jeff Gordon fan on these Forums. I figured there was a reason for bashing Dale Jr. I'm just curious yet MH. What do you consider to be a real racer? A real person driving a real car really good? Because, that describes every driver in NASCAR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSGB Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 Re: Whats Your Reason? Well, I don't watch too much NASCAR, but I'll give my opinion anyway. I like Dale Jr., because he is a great guy and seems like someone I could hang out with and enjoy his company. He's just a good 'ol boy. His dad was a heck of a man himself. [ QUOTE ] I dont like Jr. because in my mind, jr's fame shot up as soon as his dad died. [/ QUOTE ] Where was Jr. when his dad died? I don't like Jeff Gordon because he whines too much and acts like a big sissy. Plus he drives a Ford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted July 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 Re: Whats Your Reason? Good lord, JG drives a Chevy! Man, I gotta get a NASCAR broadcasting job! I do like what you said DSGB. Junior knew that Dale's crash was bad, got out of his car and ran to his dad's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganHuntr1 Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 Re: Whats Your Reason? Okay Chrud. I knew what i said would get you riled up. You are a true Jr. Fan. And there is nothing wrong with that Actually, i dont mind Dale Jr. I wanted to add some fuel to this post, and it worked. The only thing i actually meant about jr was the whole fame thing. You never heard his name mentioned, besides in busch series. I liked Sr., but when he died Jr.'s Popularity shot up. I dont like Tony Stewart though, he doesnt race with his head. And bye the way, i like how people rag on gordon , and they dont even know what he drives! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OJR Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 Re: Whats Your Reason? [ QUOTE ] And bye the way, i like how people rag on gordon , and they dont even know what he drives! [/ QUOTE ] I know what he drives and that is the only good thing about the #24! Chevies all the way!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSGB Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 Re: Whats Your Reason? Shows ya how much I watch NASCAR! [ QUOTE ] And bye the way, i like how people rag on gordon , and they dont even know what he drives! [/ QUOTE ] I never ragged on Gordon. I said I didn't like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTF Posted July 30, 2004 Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 Re: Whats Your Reason? I disagree. Whether or not Dale Sr died, Jr would still be where he is today. I dont think his popularity shot up at all after his fathers death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrud Posted July 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2004 Re: Whats Your Reason? Quick question, did you ever watch a Busch race in 1998 or 1999? If you didn't, then you missed a big thing. Junior's crowd reactions were just as big back then. I don't think that Senior's death caused Junior's popularity to go up either. People that like one are pretty much 100% going to like the other just as much. When Sr died, Junior's popularity didn't sky rocket because of that, but his role went through the roof. He had to become NASCAR's superstar to replace it's past superstar, Dale Sr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ravin R10 man Posted July 31, 2004 Report Share Posted July 31, 2004 Re: Whats Your Reason? Come on guy's dale Sr. was the dirtiest driver you could ever get out on the track! Heck, anybody can bump and run, and take the checkers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganHuntr1 Posted July 31, 2004 Report Share Posted July 31, 2004 Re: Whats Your Reason? [ QUOTE ] Come on guy's dale Sr. was the dirtiest driver you could ever get out on the track! Heck, anybody can bump and run, and take the checkers! [/ QUOTE ] Yeah he was, and I liked Sr. alot. Good guy, but a dirty racer alot of times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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