muggs Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Is a jerk. Did anyone see clips from Mark Sanchez's presser announcing that he'd enter the NFL draft? Instead of being happy for the kid, he sits in front of the mic and says how it's a mistake...the odds are against him...etc...etc... Then, as he leaves he doesn't even break stride and only gives Sanchez a little slap on the arm. The guy is not even a good coach. I can go 11-1 ever year if I got the top 4 gangbangers from every state to commit to play for me. I like to dog Tressel for his conservative style, but he's a good man and the perfect guy to have coaching college players. His advice to Beanie Wells was to turn pro and secure money to help his large family. I'm sure Tress would have love to have Beanie and Pryor in the backfield for another year- but he puts the best interest of his players first, not the best interest of himself...like Carroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig mack Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 I didnt see the presser but I agree with ya on Pete Carroll. His teams always seem to choke in atleast one game a season. He probably has the easiest job in the country as far as recruiting goes. If he cant stand up there and suck it up, atleast act like he is happy for the kid, than I hope some of his top recruits see the same thing you did and decide to go else where. They can come to Michigan, Rich Rod has been known to bring in some thugs in the past. We need all the help we can get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAhunter14 Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Ya I saw that on espn and I agree with you. I think Sanchez made the right decision if he waits till next year and Tim Tebow and Sam Bradford enter the draft he would be the 3rd QB. This year he might be the number 1 pick in the draft (poor guy would have to play for the lions). Plus if he gets injured or he has a bad season, or even if he does well and the team has a bad season his stock goes down. Even tho he only started 1 year in collage I still think he made the right decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted January 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Tim Tebow and Sam Bradford enter the draft he would be the 3rd QB. Unless he wants to play h-back he doesn't have to worry about competing with Tebow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogdoc Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 I'll disagree with the majority here---I do believe that Pete Carroll is an outstanding college coach. If the job was so easy then why was the program just mediocre until he arrived. Sure they had some great teams many years back if you guys think that job is so easy the how did he turn the team around. Heck--Oklahoma should be an easy job with all the tradition but after Switzer left OU turned into a mediocre team until the hiring of Bob Stoops--and Carrol has a better BSC record than Stoops---who many consider to be one of the top coaches in CFB. I'd hire Carroll in a second for my college coach. Sanchez ia very good quarterback but another year in college might have helped him and secured a higher draft pick next year--we will never know though. Carroll has been in the NFL and know what it takes--he honestly probably thought the young man was making a mistake. I still don't see Sanchez being a number 1 pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted January 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 I'll disagree with the majority here---I do believe that Pete Carroll is an outstanding college coach. If the job was so easy then why was the program just mediocre until he arrived. Sure they had some great teams many years back if you guys think that job is so easy the how did he turn the team around. Heck--Oklahoma should be an easy job with all the tradition but after Switzer left OU turned into a mediocre team until the hiring of Bob Stoops--and Carrol has a better BSC record than Stoops---who many consider to be one of the top coaches in CFB. I'd hire Carroll in a second for my college coach. Sanchez ia very good quarterback but another year in college might have helped him and secured a higher draft pick next year--we will never know though. Carroll has been in the NFL and know what it takes--he honestly probably thought the young man was making a mistake. I still don't see Sanchez being a number 1 pick. Yeah...but he's still a jerk. I don't see how anyone can tell a kid not to go make millions if someone is willing to give it to him. Honestly, do you think Carrol's main motivation was trying to prevent Sanchez from making a mistake, or that he wants all his players back so he has the best team possible? Anyway- I don't see how signing a million dollar contract could ever be a mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckbuster11 Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 That was a stupid move by Carroll. He is usually all for his guys going to the NFL so I was a little surprised. Give me a break with Tressel though. Tressel couldn't carry his jock when it comes to coaching and putting a program together. Carroll has the best program going in the country. Sanchez is making the right move though. He knows he's lucky Bradford and some of these other guys are staying so that makes Sanchez a top 10 pick I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Carroll has the best program going in the country. Ever hear of that Meyer dude down in Jacksonville? And I hope JoePa didn't hear one of his faithful say that. DB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckbuster11 Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Actually yeah you are right, Meyer has the best. Carroll is a close second. Let's see if Meyer can keep it going as long as Carroll has though. BTW---JoePa needs to retire. BTW2--Jacksonville is for Jaguars. Gainsville is for Gators. DB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted January 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 you're both db's. Meyer is a very good coach...because he's done it at Bowling Green (I'll be there next weekend) and Utah. But here's why Carrol and Meyer have good programs. 1.) It's easy to recruit kids to come play in LA. 2.) It's easy to recruit kids to come play in Florida near the beaches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tominator Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 BTW2--Jacksonville is for Jaguars. Gainsville is for Gators. Close enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckbuster11 Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 you're both db's. Meyer is a very good coach...because he's done it at Bowling Green (I'll be there next weekend) and Utah. But here's why Carrol and Meyer have good programs. 1.) It's easy to recruit kids to come play in LA. 2.) It's easy to recruit kids to come play in Florida near the beaches. There arent any beaches in Bowling Green or Utah so how do explain Meyers success in those places? It's easy to recruit kids to come to LA huh? What's up with UCLA? Do they even have a football program? How about the 8 million other colleges on the pacific and southern coasts that never come near a championship of any kind? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted January 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 There arent any beaches in Bowling Green or Utah so how do explain Meyers success in those places? It's easy to recruit kids to come to LA huh? What's up with UCLA? Do they even have a football program? How about the 8 million other colleges on the pacific and southern coasts that never come near a championship of any kind? You do realize USC has been one of the best college programs...since like the 1940s, don't you? It's not like it was terrible before Carrol got there. btw- did you realize I said Meyer is a good coach because he's done it at Utah and BG. Carrol on the other hand has failed anywhere he went, until coming to USC...and that's because it's easy to recruit to USC. It's got the LA lifestyle, the glam and the glitz, the huge LA media behind it to pump it up...simple. You could put me in as coach there, without a clue of what I was donig and I could put together a top 5 recruiting class...no problem. It's also easy to go 11-1 every year in college football when you have more talent than the other guys. At the NFL level- when the talent is pretty much even, it's not easy, and Carrol hasn't done anything in the NFL. He also runs an undisciplined program...which is why they always manage to lose one Pac-10 game a year. Talent alone gets the guy 11 wins, but he's loosy-goosey attitude blows it for him- then he blames his conference for being so weak that he doesn't get enough computer points and this is without him ever mentioning that he lost a conference game so it can't be that weak. See what I mean? The guy is a jerk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig mack Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Dang it Muggs, I agree with you again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted January 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Dang it Muggs, I agree with you again. don't be swayed because it's the en vogue thing to do (diagree with me) I'm right more than I'm wrong. Sometimes it takes a while for some of you guys to see what I see...but good things come to those who wait. Perfect example, I told you Vince Young stunk and everyone jumped all over me. Well... I also was the first to say the Cowboys and their egotism would come crashing down and Romo would be exposed. Well... Brett Fav-rah. Well... The next two you'll see come true are going to be the importance of a dominant big man to the Trail Blazers and how he was the right pick over Durant. And I don't care if Durant is 6th in the league in scoring avg. or whatever. That doesn't speak to the fact his team has 8 wins and he gets owned by everyone on the defensive end of the floor and doesn't have a real NBA position (which I told you all before the draft). And, I'd say Oden won't really reach his potential until the 2011 season...than, you'lll have baby Shaq on your hands. The other, is my boy Brady Quinn. You take Quinn out of ND and that program falls off the map. He's got what it takes to be a solid NFL QB- and he sort of reminds me of another former ND QB, Joe Montana. Now, before you go into a hissy-fit, I'm not saying he's the next Montana...but people tried to knock JM's arm strenght...but sometimes arm strenght isn't what you need (Dereck Anderson and JaMarcus Russell ring a bell). I told you all Quinn should have been the Raiders pick, but like Al Davis...you all fell in love with Russell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texastrophies Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 The next two you'll see come true are going to be the importance of a dominant big man to the Trail Blazers and how he was the right pick over Durant. And I don't care if Durant is 6th in the league in scoring avg. or whatever. That doesn't speak to the fact his team has 8 wins and he gets owned by everyone on the defensive end of the floor and doesn't have a real NBA position (which I told you all before the draft). And, I'd say Oden won't really reach his potential until the 2011 season...than, you'lll have baby Shaq on your hands. I believe there was some guy that played in Chicago who scored quite a few points when he first came into the league and his teams weren't winning very many games. I guess maybe it takes more than one guy to win a game. Now I am not saying Durant is the next MJ but...... The other, is my boy Brady Quinn. You take Quinn out of ND and that program falls off the map. He's got what it takes to be a solid NFL QB- and he sort of reminds me of another former ND QB, Joe Montana. Now, before you go into a hissy-fit, I'm not saying he's the next Montana...but people tried to knock JM's arm strenght...but sometimes arm strenght isn't what you need (Dereck Anderson and JaMarcus Russell ring a bell). I told you all Quinn should have been the Raiders pick, but like Al Davis...you all fell in love with Russell. Has he even played a full game yet???? You claim he is a solid NFL quarterback and then compare him to Montana. If he could ever win the starting role and play a full season, maybe, MAYBE you could make the assumption that he is a solid NFL QB. Right now, all you can assume is that he is a rich backup. Kind of like VY. :D:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Metal Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 First, I despise Carol and the Trojans just as much as the next guy growing up with a Dad that played football at UCLA. However, I thought Carol was great and I imagine, i'd be the same way. Sanchez is not ready for the NFL. And may never be. I can't even imagine the frustration 1-A coaches must feel when you consider all the recruiting time, promises and shifting around and trying to make good on all those promises, using up your limited amount of athletic scholarships and pouring all your knowledge, time and wisdom into a new starter.....and he leaves early. How many overrated players have we seen from USC, Texas, Ohio State and on and on flop in the pros....almost all. But hey..more power to him, he'll figure it out. This, more than the BCS nightmare, is the biggest problem in college sports period. To me, scholarship athletes should not be allowed to leave early. If they get redshirted, obviously, that's not their fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted January 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 (edited) Has he even played a full game yet???? You claim he is a solid NFL quarterback and then compare him to Montana. If he could ever win the starting role and play a full season, maybe, MAYBE you could make the assumption that he is a solid NFL QB. Right now, all you can assume is that he is a rich backup. Kind of like VY. :D:D Yes, he has (played a full game). He has a similar build as Montana, the same type of mobility a young Montana had (and then some), a similar arm as far as accuracy and decent strength goes, and most importantly...leadership and can be the face of a franchise. He's gonna be a player, as long as the Brownies can put a Front Office that allows for continuity in place. And that's a BIG "if.":D Montana had Rice and a Super Bowl caliber team too. Those are also two huge thigns BQ is missing...Braylon ain't no Jerry Rice, that's for sure. On a good team, BQ would have shone already. But here in CTown, we had a Head Coach who felt loyal to DA for saving his job with the 10 win season and refused to give BQ a shot (he should have been put in around week 5 or 6 of this past season). It's hard to fault a guy for being too loyal, but that was Crennel's downfall. Edited January 21, 2009 by muggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Metal Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I actually think Quinn could be awesome. Although, I don't see the physical comparisons to montana at all. Quinn is built like a tightend or a linebacker. You see his pipes lately? Montana was a pipsqueek! Built like Tom Brady or Eli Manning and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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