cinch314 Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 What do you think about Phelps? Should most of his sponsors bail out or should that just blame it on a youthful mistake? I personally think that he should be punished or reprimanded in some form. This guy is someone our youth looks upto then this pic surfaces of him doing an illegal activity/ What are yall's opinions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tp793 Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 I think he made a mistake. Should he have done it in the first place, obviously the answer is no, but I don't think his sponsors should jump ship. He has apologized for it and knows that what he did was wrong. I think his biggest loss is going to be his personal image to people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinch314 Posted February 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Yea I understand people make mistakes. I just would like for him to get like a reprimanded in someway because if he doesn't then what is that going to show our youths? That they can get away with it? Just my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggs Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Hmmm...I'm not really one to express my opinion()...but... First of all, the guy is 23 years old and he's worth 10 million bucks- what do you expect, him to be too busy going to Glee Club practice to not do things people around that age are prone to do? Second of all, I hate how these people feel the need to apologize in a lame attempt to save face. Who are you apologizing to? I guess if he's directing that towards the youth that may have looked up to him, than that's a noble thing...but really, most of these forced apologies come across as a transparent attempts to try and prevent their sponsors from pulling out of contracts etc... If it were me, I would not ever apologize for mistakes I made. It may not be the best example for kids, but let's be real, they're going to be confronted with things like this and it's up to them (and more importantly their parents) to be prepared for it and make a decision- whether or not there's a picture of Phelps doing it shouldn't matter one bit. I'm sure sponsors are going to pull out of deals with him- and I'm also sure he won't starve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinch314 Posted February 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 But then again, with the publicity and the public humiliation that he is getting right now, that may be enough punishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Metal Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 I don't know about punishment and all that. There will definitely be consequences financially I'm sure. The thing that really blows my mind is how "personally" offended and shocked people are when this happens. How long will Americans continue to try and combine a successful athlete....with a roll model?! Obviously, just because a guy wins 8 gold medals, Super Bowls, NBA Championships, or is simply a millionare in business does not make them worthy to be looked up to! We all know this. Phelps is obviously exactly like many, many athletes. Big on talent, small on character. Don't forget....we were right here 4 years ago with him. He got the underage DUI shortly after his first Olympics and issued the same apology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohiobucks Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 There has to be a water / bong water reference in there somewhere?! To tell you the truth, I really don't care one way or the other..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakota Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Wait...what happened? What did he do? Dakota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Metal Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Somebody snapped a pic with there cell phone at a party in England. Coincidentally Phelps was sucking the oil out of an old glass lamp! IT'S ALL JUST A BIG MISTAKE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkneck Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Moral of the story.....Keep your bong in a closet...just step in and out, and nobody's the wiser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Metal Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Moral of the story.....Keep your bong in a closet...just step in and out, and nobody's the wiser YOU CAN'T SAY THAT...IT'S NOT A BONG DUDE!!! It's "hand blown glass", got it!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 I couldn't care less. He is a kid- a rich, famous kid. He smoked some pot. Big deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 I couldn't care less. He is a kid- a rich, famous kid. He smoked some pot. Big deal. EXACTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Who here hasn't done something stupid? Unfortunetaly he is in a position to get ALOT of scrutiny, and the media will hammer on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotashRLS Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 ITS JUST A LITTLE POT:eek: Did you folks have that commercial on tv where you live. I used to laugh so hard at it. My boss's son says it all the time. Bad choices are magnified by the public eye. Bottom line, he knew better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruttinbuc Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 God forbid if they ever exposed all the skeletons in everyone's closest. Who gives a rat's tail....really. The president smoked pot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakota Posted February 2, 2009 Report Share Posted February 2, 2009 Who gives a rat's tail....really. The president smoked pot. :D:D Just you wait and see, there's going to be a big rise of smokers in the nation's youth because of him. Dakota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJL Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Hang him............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dakota Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Hang him............. :D:D Ken, get off JJL's profile! :D:D Dakota Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clrj3514 Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 (edited) no wonder he swims so fast. puff puff swim lol Edited February 3, 2009 by clrj3514 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtnhunt Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Who gives a rat's tail....really. The president smoked pot. Think he did worse things than that Mike.:eek: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaskaguide Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Surprised Wow I am surprised and happy to see that there wasn't too many folks that wanted to jump down a guy's throat for smoking the ganja. There's a heck of a lot worse things in the world than smoking weed. I bet I could go into any home in America and list 50 - 100 things or activities that are worse than smoking marijuana. It's ok to shove McDonalds, Doritos, and Twinkies down America's throats, or drink 15 watered down Bud Lites, or smoke a pack of Marlboro Reds, or get so stressed out a work that you die of a heart attack at 45. Don't forget heart disease is now the leading killer in America, but that doesn't stop most parents from feeding their kids Captain Crunch, hot dogs, doughnuts, McDonalds french fries, and all the Mountain Dew they can drink. So before you start judging a grown man for smoking pot, look in your own house. More good people need to stand up for "pot rights". There are countless professionals from every walk of life, doctors, judges, scientists (Carl Sagan), athletes and many other good people that are forced to "live in the closet" and often get their freedom taken away simply because of misinformation and society's misrepresented fears. It's sad. It's no different then those that wish to take away our hunting rights. There are a lot of people that are misinformed about hunting and would love to see it illegal. How would we feel if we were forced to "live in the closet" because of a group of folks didn't think hunting was in society's best interest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddyboman Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 To be honest I could care less what he does. Its his life his decisions. The only reason this is even being discussed is because he is a big name sports athlete...we all know this. However....It ILLEGAL......... NO I AM NOT PERFECT and I to have done dumb and illegal things as we all have....but IMO drugs is a little worse than speed or not wear a seat belt or so on.... In this forum we will rip a person to shreds for doing illegal things such as poaching yet we are saying this is ok..... I am a bit confused. I bet I could go into any home in America and list 50 - 100 things or activities that are worse than smoking marijuana. It's ok to shove McDonalds, Doritos, and Twinkies down America's throats, or drink 15 watered down Bud Lites, or smoke a pack of Marlboro Reds, or get so stressed out a work that you die of a heart attack at 45. Don't forget heart disease is now the leading killer in America, but that doesn't stop most parents from feeding their kids Captain Crunch, hot dogs, doughnuts, McDonalds french fries, and all the Mountain Dew they can drink. So before you start judging a grown man for smoking pot, look in your own house. did you really just compare eating junk food to doing drugs and try to make it sound as if doing drugs is ok......WOW:confused: More good people need to stand up for "pot rights". There are countless professionals from every walk of life, doctors, judges, scientists (Carl Sagan), athletes and many other good people that are forced to "live in the closet" and often get their freedom taken away simply because of misinformation and society's misrepresented fears. "pot rights"... It's sad. It's no different then those that wish to take away our hunting rights. There are a lot of people that are misinformed about hunting and would love to see it illegal. How would we feel if we were forced to "live in the closet" because of a group of folks didn't think hunting was in society's best interest? No I think there is a BIG difference between my hunting rights and ILLEGAL use of drugs or "pot rights" as you put it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heavy Metal Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 (edited) Wow I am surprised and happy to see that there wasn't too many folks that wanted to jump down a guy's throat for smoking the ganja. There's a heck of a lot worse things in the world than smoking weed. I bet I could go into any home in America and list 50 - 100 things or activities that are worse than smoking marijuana. It's ok to shove McDonalds, Doritos, and Twinkies down America's throats, or drink 15 watered down Bud Lites, or smoke a pack of Marlboro Reds, or get so stressed out a work that you die of a heart attack at 45. Don't forget heart disease is now the leading killer in America, but that doesn't stop most parents from feeding their kids Captain Crunch, hot dogs, doughnuts, McDonalds french fries, and all the Mountain Dew they can drink. So before you start judging a grown man for smoking pot, look in your own house. More good people need to stand up for "pot rights". There are countless professionals from every walk of life, doctors, judges, scientists (Carl Sagan), athletes and many other good people that are forced to "live in the closet" and often get their freedom taken away simply because of misinformation and society's misrepresented fears. It's sad. It's no different then those that wish to take away our hunting rights. There are a lot of people that are misinformed about hunting and would love to see it illegal. How would we feel if we were forced to "live in the closet" because of a group of folks didn't think hunting was in society's best interest? While I will spot you the respect of obvious philosophical differences I must point out one glaring and important fact...smoking dope is illegal, period. And I've been to drug school. I've also counseled many families whose underage kids are so emotionally and mentally retarded because of pot they are impossible to reason with and control while hooked on it. Captain crunch, hot dogs, bigmacs, pop, and hunting are not illegal. They also don't destroy lives and families, kill brain cells and make kids and adults stupid, lead to crime and death/murder. The emotional and mental growth stunting that occurs in kids under 18 from alcohol and pot on a recreational level is staggering. It’s also permanent. Those are weeks….months….years of development they will never get back. No, its people like you that want to smoke whatever you want, whenever you want that are always….100% of the time, misinformed and ignorant. Edited February 3, 2009 by Heavy Metal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 Actually there was a news release yesterday that pot use among the 15-18yr old crowd has declined in the last few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaskaguide Posted February 3, 2009 Report Share Posted February 3, 2009 (edited) Common [Heavy Metal]While I will spot you the respect of obvious philosophical differences I must point out one glaring and important fact...smoking dope is illegal, period. And I've been to drug school. I've also counseled many families whose underage kids are so emotionally and mentally retarded because of pot they are impossible to reason with and control while hooked on it. ----- Those kids more than likely would of been losers no matter what they were goin to be doing. That's life, a few winners and a whole lot of losers. The losers whine and cry and make excusing and love to be victims of circumstance. Hahaha, you say, hooked. Do you honestly believe that people get hooked on pot? Are you watching a different channel? Captain crunch, hot dogs, bigmacs, pop, and hunting are not illegal. They also don't destroy lives and families, kill brain cells and make kids and adults stupid, lead to crime and death/murder. ----- No, that's what I am saying, they aren't illegal, but with the exception of hunting, the rest builds a foundation upon which your child will base his/her eating habits upon. I'd rather see an in shape athlete that smokes pot, than a fat, sloppy teenager that can't barely walk up a hill. Believe me I get all kinds of people up here that can barely hike a mile without passing out. Boy, you are so out of touch, it's scary. This is what scares me to death about our voting public, they just aren't objective, critical thinkers. The emotional and mental growth stunting that occurs in kids under 18 from alcohol and pot on a recreational level is staggering. It’s also permanent. Those are weeks….months….years of development they will never get back. ---- You are blowing that way out of proportion. How about you state some scientific reviews that have been done on your meager opinion. You simply stating your opinion doesn't make it true. No, its people like you that want to smoke whatever you want, whenever you want that are always….100% of the time, misinformed and ignorant. First of all, before you put away your good guy badge. I don't smoke pot, nor do I put anything in my body that I deem harmful. I work out every day of the year and guide over 100 days of the season. Every single act I do is to become the best possible hunter/outdoorsman on the planet. So, let's not jump to conclusions, that's just simply what weak, common people do. No surprises there. I do not agree with young people smoking pot or drinking alcohol or eating poorly. It has the strong possibility to stunt their ability to unfold their potential and it's at a time in their life where they aren't as mentally ready for alterations in perception. This is the same mentality that was widely prevalent in the dark ages where the church and a sphere of influence maintained that the world was not heliocentric and that the earth was in fact flat. People believed it without questioning it, absolutely no difference, same ole, same ole social conditioning, you would think after ooh 500, 1000 years that the status-quo would smarten up, but a las they have not. And for those of you that state it's a no no because it's illegal, that's about the most weak, lazy argument you can make. Does anyone dig deep anymore and think critically? Not many. Slavery was legal at one point. Legality isn't what's wrong or wrong, just what's popular at the time. So, when the anti-hunters decide that hunting isn't ethical and therefore becomes illegal, then what will you say? Ooh well, hunting is bad because it's illegal. Grow a backbone. This issue is about individual rights. How are you doing to tell a grown adult he can't smoke a joint in the privacy of his own home? Or that he can't play a game of Texas Hold'em because in most states that's illegal as well. You shouldn't do or not do things because they are legal or illegal, you should discern between what's right and wrong based upon intrinsic values based upon respect. "Our fundamental ethical duty is to treat people with respect, to treat them as equally capable of living an autonomous life. But since each person has this same fundamental duty towards others, each of us can be said to have the right to be treated with respect, the right to be treated as an end and never as a means only. I have the right to pursue my own autonomously chosen end as long as I do no in turn treat other people as means to my ends." I don't poach because it is illegal. I don't poach because it's not the right thing to do because it directly infringes upon the rights of others. Edited February 3, 2009 by alaskaguide Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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